Why is "people of color" a term people are ok with?

big dog · February 28, 2018, 05:37:13 AM

with great power comes great responsibility

rudyard kipling called it "white man's burden"

Super Irish · February 28, 2018, 06:13:21 AM

Are we talking about Blacks, Native Americans, Aboriginees or Pacific Islanders/Polynesians?

You even hear funny stories about Black Brits going on holiday and being referred to as "African Americans", despite the accent.

Hell, I had a black person come to Primary School in Ireland telling us that the term coloured is wrong, and that Black is totally fine. I really don't know how that came to happen, or why it came up considering he must've been the only Black person within a 25 mile radius.

Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 06:37:12 AM

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there's also a rather obvious difference between using a word like "nigger," which has a lot of baggage

and saying "color" which has no baggage and is relatively benign

"colored" is different because it sounds like an affliction, but "color" is just a benign description of someone's complexion
No shit. The thing is you might as well just call everybody who isn't white niggers if you're just gonna lump everybody together for no reason other than the fact that they aren't white.

"you might as well say nigger because they're the same exact word i mean come on guys"

the difference is that there are good reasons to be offended by words like "nigger" and "colored"

there's no good or sensible reason to be offended by "people of color" because the term was come up with specifically to solve that problem, and if you're genuinely offended by it, then you deserve to be offended by it

Stark · February 28, 2018, 06:59:56 AM

If I have to describe someone, I just use: black, white, Asian, Hispanic, Latino, etc. I don't see a problem with any of that in a normal conversation.

Desty · February 28, 2018, 08:29:38 AM

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Why can't we just say "not white"? Short, simple, to the point, really hits the point when liberals say they just want more PoC representation in media disproportionate to the actual population size.

Or if we're talking about crime and under performing academics statistics why not say "non-asian minorities" since that's what they always mean?
How about we don't lump all "minorities" in with each other. You literally might as well just call everybody who isn't a white a nigger.
Asians can be totally Honorary tho, Arabs too. Uncle Adolf said so himself.
Pretty sure Hitler just meant Japanese and Iranians but who cares he was a Jew

You mean Japanese and afghan

Desty · February 28, 2018, 08:30:49 AM

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Doesn't trigger me as much as the word "Hispanic"

Why?

challengerX · February 28, 2018, 08:38:30 AM

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Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 08:48:27 AM

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there's also a rather obvious difference between using a word like "nigger," which has a lot of baggage

and saying "color" which has no baggage and is relatively benign

"colored" is different because it sounds like an affliction, but "color" is just a benign description of someone's complexion
No shit. The thing is you might as well just call everybody who isn't white niggers if you're just gonna lump everybody together for no reason other than the fact that they aren't white.
"you might as well say nigger because they're the same exact word i mean come on guys"

the difference is that there are good reasons to be offended by words like "nigger" and "colored"

there's no good or sensible reason to be offended by "people of color" because the term was come up with specifically to solve that problem, and if you're genuinely offended by it, then you deserve to be offended by it
Please explain how it's different. It isn't. The intention and thought process is EXACTLY the same. "Nonwhite". Grouping everybody who isn't white together. It's just beating around the bush and sugar coating.

i already explained how it's different, and i shouldn't have to explain why using "nigger" is bad

"nigger" doesn't just mean "nonwhite"

"colored" doesn't just mean "nonwhite"

and there's nothing wrong with being nonwhite, so i'm not sure what your problem is

there's nothing wrong with being nonblack, either, and if "nonblack" became a widespread term i wouldn't care either

challengerX · February 28, 2018, 09:36:06 AM

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Ingy · February 28, 2018, 10:16:58 AM

The wording is just semantics

We shouldn’t be relegating people to racial identity in the first place

It implies that being a certain race has anything to do with their humanity

You see it with the whole Black Panther pride
It’s basically saying “look black people can do well TOO”

There’s nothing about being black that means anything and that’s how people should see it

Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 10:53:13 AM

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there's also a rather obvious difference between using a word like "nigger," which has a lot of baggage

and saying "color" which has no baggage and is relatively benign

"colored" is different because it sounds like an affliction, but "color" is just a benign description of someone's complexion
No shit. The thing is you might as well just call everybody who isn't white niggers if you're just gonna lump everybody together for no reason other than the fact that they aren't white.
"you might as well say nigger because they're the same exact word i mean come on guys"

the difference is that there are good reasons to be offended by words like "nigger" and "colored"

there's no good or sensible reason to be offended by "people of color" because the term was come up with specifically to solve that problem, and if you're genuinely offended by it, then you deserve to be offended by it
Please explain how it's different. It isn't. The intention and thought process is EXACTLY the same. "Nonwhite". Grouping everybody who isn't white together. It's just beating around the bush and sugar coating.
i already explained how it's different, and i shouldn't have to explain why using "nigger" is bad

"nigger" doesn't just mean "nonwhite"

"colored" doesn't just mean "nonwhite"

and there's nothing wrong with being nonwhite, so i'm not sure what your problem is

there's nothing wrong with being nonblack, either, and if "nonblack" became a widespread term i wouldn't care either
Nigger is just a messed up way of saying negro which is black. My problem lies with whites grouping everybody else as "colored" like it's the 1960's and then acting like it's cool and "progressive".

but they're not doing that, because "colored" and "color" fundamentally connote different things, because words are more than what they mean

colorED makes it sound like being nonwhite is some kind of affliction or disability, that's what it sounds like

"color" connotes nothing, it's just an acknowledgement that people of different races tend to have different skin complexions, but it doesn't have a negative connotation because, again, you're referring to them as people first, and their race second

if the two words meant the same exact thing, and had the same exact connotations, then everybody would be on your side

your choice to be offended by the term doesn't make the term offensive

big dog · February 28, 2018, 11:01:48 AM

people of colour*

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Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 01:15:51 PM

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>reaching this hard

By this logic saying "black people" is racist because you say people second and the color first. Fucking lol, the point is to not refer to people like this at all. Unless it's official documentation or a description for a suspect or some shit, what the hell? Why is "nonwhite" even a term? It implies white is the base, default, correct. It's all racist. There's nothing progressive or tolerant about any of this terminology. It's an outdated way of thinking about people.

not reaching at all actually, this is pretty basic stuff

if there's one thing i'm always going to know more than you about, it's language

nobody is saying the term "black people" is racist, it's just falling by the wayside as a politically correct term

i'd still use it because that's what i'm used to, but if it stops being used that way it's not a big deal to me

>unless it's official documentation or a description
>unless it's being used the way it's always been used

well at least you see where you messed up now

challengerX · February 28, 2018, 01:21:16 PM

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Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 01:21:51 PM

it really seems like you haven't spent any time reading about this subject at all, and are just talking shit like always

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Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 01:25:25 PM

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It's totally reaching. "Colored" and "people of color" are literally the same thing.

learn what a connotation is, and maybe i'll take the time to read the rest of your post

Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 01:27:20 PM

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it really seems like you haven't spent any time reading about this subject at all, and are just talking shit like always
It seems like you have no rebuttal at all. There's nothing to read. It's a bullshit term being used by leftists, and it's the same shit "colored" used to be. That was the politically correct term st the time to label all races who are not white. That way of thinking should be obsolete by now.

and it is

because PoC isn't a revival of it, it's an active indictment of it

challengerX · February 28, 2018, 01:27:44 PM

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Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 01:29:06 PM

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it really seems like you haven't spent any time reading about this subject at all, and are just talking shit like always
It seems like you have no rebuttal at all. There's nothing to read. It's a bullshit term being used by leftists, and it's the same shit "colored" used to be. That was the politically correct term st the time to label all races who are not white. That way of thinking should be obsolete by now.
and it is

because PoC isn't a revival of it, it's an active indictment of it
How is it an indictment when it's the exact same thought process?

how is it the exact same thought process when it is not the exact same thought process

challengerX · February 28, 2018, 01:34:52 PM

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Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 01:40:15 PM

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it really seems like you haven't spent any time reading about this subject at all, and are just talking shit like always
It seems like you have no rebuttal at all. There's nothing to read. It's a bullshit term being used by leftists, and it's the same shit "colored" used to be. That was the politically correct term st the time to label all races who are not white. That way of thinking should be obsolete by now.
and it is

because PoC isn't a revival of it, it's an active indictment of it
How is it an indictment when it's the exact same thought process?
how is it the exact same thought process when it is not the exact same thought process
It's just another way to say nonwhite. In what world is using a term like that NOT racist? Just use the person's race. Why is white the standard?

because they're the majority

it's not really a "standard," it just is what it is, i didn't decide that fact

the term obviously doesn't have the same gravitas outside of densely white countries

challengerX · February 28, 2018, 03:03:32 PM

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🍁 Aria 🔮 · February 28, 2018, 03:13:55 PM

because white people are empty

Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 03:23:52 PM

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it really seems like you haven't spent any time reading about this subject at all, and are just talking shit like always
It seems like you have no rebuttal at all. There's nothing to read. It's a bullshit term being used by leftists, and it's the same shit "colored" used to be. That was the politically correct term st the time to label all races who are not white. That way of thinking should be obsolete by now.
and it is

because PoC isn't a revival of it, it's an active indictment of it
How is it an indictment when it's the exact same thought process?
how is it the exact same thought process when it is not the exact same thought process
It's just another way to say nonwhite. In what world is using a term like that NOT racist? Just use the person's race. Why is white the standard?
because they're the majority

it's not really a "standard," it just is what it is, i didn't decide that fact

the term obviously doesn't have the same gravitas outside of densely white countries
How does that make lumping everyone together a good thing?

it's not good or bad

challengerX · February 28, 2018, 03:39:59 PM

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Verbatim · February 28, 2018, 03:51:11 PM

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it really seems like you haven't spent any time reading about this subject at all, and are just talking shit like always
It seems like you have no rebuttal at all. There's nothing to read. It's a bullshit term being used by leftists, and it's the same shit "colored" used to be. That was the politically correct term st the time to label all races who are not white. That way of thinking should be obsolete by now.
and it is

because PoC isn't a revival of it, it's an active indictment of it
How is it an indictment when it's the exact same thought process?
how is it the exact same thought process when it is not the exact same thought process
It's just another way to say nonwhite. In what world is using a term like that NOT racist? Just use the person's race. Why is white the standard?
because they're the majority

it's not really a "standard," it just is what it is, i didn't decide that fact

the term obviously doesn't have the same gravitas outside of densely white countries
How does that make lumping everyone together a good thing?
it's not good or bad
its bad bro

yeah america is ruined

challengerX · February 28, 2018, 04:41:59 PM

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