Total Members Voted: 19
Voting closed: January 19, 2016, 11:16:50 PM
Quote from: Kirlia on January 11, 2016, 05:12:13 PMSorry animu fans, but superman prime could just make it so that these adversaries never actually existed in the first place.He's the most broken one here.Ea thoQuoteThe sword itself is nameless, and it is described by Shirou as "the only sword that does not exist in this world." It is something that does not appear in any modern legends, crystallized during the Age of Gods at the beginning of the world. It is the primordial sword that is the actualization of the works of a god recorded before humanity came into being, and it is that which divided the formless into a distinct heaven and earth in ancient Mesopotamia. It is a divine construct created by a god unable to be replicated by Unlimited Blade Works, and its status as a unique existence means it cannot be reproduced in any way.QuoteGilgamesh claims that the sword "knows the truth" of the world where it once existed, and by using its power, it is able to bestow its knowledge upon others. As it is "The Sword That Cut the World Apart", he calls it “something that knows the hellish planet before genesis”, the planet's primordial form before heaven and earth were split, that was a land filled with naught but lava and gas and a hell of scorching heat and intense cold. Referring to it as hell, Gilgamesh states that it is source of all legends of lands of the dead. The memory of the time before the existence of the planet, a place and time when organic existence had been impossible, is something possessed by all organisms, but it is no longer found in the imaginations or spoken memories of people. It is the first memory of life that is a genetically inherent and repressed knowledge which can only be shown to those looking upon the sword.Too bad Gil is too much of an arrogant prick to actually use it before he gets shrekt.
Sorry animu fans, but superman prime could just make it so that these adversaries never actually existed in the first place.He's the most broken one here.
The sword itself is nameless, and it is described by Shirou as "the only sword that does not exist in this world." It is something that does not appear in any modern legends, crystallized during the Age of Gods at the beginning of the world. It is the primordial sword that is the actualization of the works of a god recorded before humanity came into being, and it is that which divided the formless into a distinct heaven and earth in ancient Mesopotamia. It is a divine construct created by a god unable to be replicated by Unlimited Blade Works, and its status as a unique existence means it cannot be reproduced in any way.
Gilgamesh claims that the sword "knows the truth" of the world where it once existed, and by using its power, it is able to bestow its knowledge upon others. As it is "The Sword That Cut the World Apart", he calls it “something that knows the hellish planet before genesis”, the planet's primordial form before heaven and earth were split, that was a land filled with naught but lava and gas and a hell of scorching heat and intense cold. Referring to it as hell, Gilgamesh states that it is source of all legends of lands of the dead. The memory of the time before the existence of the planet, a place and time when organic existence had been impossible, is something possessed by all organisms, but it is no longer found in the imaginations or spoken memories of people. It is the first memory of life that is a genetically inherent and repressed knowledge which can only be shown to those looking upon the sword.
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
I thought superman prime made himself immune to magic. Hence why I said he's invincible and can do anything he wants.
Gil could win against regular supes, but that would only be because of his gate of babylon and its ability to shoot magic weapons out of it. However the only way he'd be able to hit gary-stuperman is if he had divinity and Gil used enkidu. Cause you know, traveling faster than the speed of light and all that.Basically you can't put superman into any fight and expect it to be a fair one.
Quote from: LC on January 12, 2016, 02:25:27 AMI thought superman prime made himself immune to magic. Hence why I said he's invincible and can do anything he wants.He didn't. And as an aside, his omnipotence is only assumed and never really shown.QuoteGil could win against regular supes, but that would only be because of his gate of babylon and its ability to shoot magic weapons out of it. However the only way he'd be able to hit gary-stuperman is if he had divinity and Gil used enkidu. Cause you know, traveling faster than the speed of light and all that.Basically you can't put superman into any fight and expect it to be a fair one.Does Gilgamesh have anything stronger than Ea? Just having magic won't necessarily mean he can kill Superman.
The correct answer, of course, is WWII Russia
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on January 12, 2016, 01:43:07 PMThe correct answer, of course, is WWII RussiaGandhi nukes them
>fgts think that Supes One Million is the best one hereThe guy is basically featless and needed a Green Lantern ring to win in a fight. Saitama or the mecha thing win.
Quote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 07:31:17 PM>fgts think that Supes One Million is the best one hereThe guy is basically featless and needed a Green Lantern ring to win in a fight. Saitama or the mecha thing win.He's more powerful than his fifth-dimensional descendant. That speaks volumes.Saitama has no feats that put him on par with Supes' usual Post-Crisis level, much less his best version.
Quote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 09:53:21 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 07:31:17 PM>fgts think that Supes One Million is the best one hereThe guy is basically featless and needed a Green Lantern ring to win in a fight. Saitama or the mecha thing win.He's more powerful than his fifth-dimensional descendant. That speaks volumes.Saitama has no feats that put him on par with Supes' usual Post-Crisis level, much less his best version.Feats > Statements Power scaling only works in Dragon Ball.
Quote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 10:31:27 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 09:53:21 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 07:31:17 PM>fgts think that Supes One Million is the best one hereThe guy is basically featless and needed a Green Lantern ring to win in a fight. Saitama or the mecha thing win.He's more powerful than his fifth-dimensional descendant. That speaks volumes.Saitama has no feats that put him on par with Supes' usual Post-Crisis level, much less his best version.Feats > Statements Power scaling only works in Dragon Ball.Being powerful enough to give a 5D imp more power than it already has is a feat.
Quote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 10:40:19 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 10:31:27 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 09:53:21 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 07:31:17 PM>fgts think that Supes One Million is the best one hereThe guy is basically featless and needed a Green Lantern ring to win in a fight. Saitama or the mecha thing win.He's more powerful than his fifth-dimensional descendant. That speaks volumes.Saitama has no feats that put him on par with Supes' usual Post-Crisis level, much less his best version.Feats > Statements Power scaling only works in Dragon Ball.Being powerful enough to give a 5D imp more power than it already has is a feat.That's a statement. Not a feat.
Quote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 10:47:13 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 10:40:19 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 10:31:27 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 09:53:21 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 07:31:17 PM>fgts think that Supes One Million is the best one hereThe guy is basically featless and needed a Green Lantern ring to win in a fight. Saitama or the mecha thing win.He's more powerful than his fifth-dimensional descendant. That speaks volumes.Saitama has no feats that put him on par with Supes' usual Post-Crisis level, much less his best version.Feats > Statements Power scaling only works in Dragon Ball.Being powerful enough to give a 5D imp more power than it already has is a feat.That's a statement. Not a feat.He's more powerful than his descendants because the narrative says he is. Not Superman's word, not some other character's word, the narrative. You're arguing against the writing itself.
Quote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 11:05:00 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 10:47:13 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 10:40:19 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 10:31:27 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 09:53:21 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 07:31:17 PM>fgts think that Supes One Million is the best one hereThe guy is basically featless and needed a Green Lantern ring to win in a fight. Saitama or the mecha thing win.He's more powerful than his fifth-dimensional descendant. That speaks volumes.Saitama has no feats that put him on par with Supes' usual Post-Crisis level, much less his best version.Feats > Statements Power scaling only works in Dragon Ball.Being powerful enough to give a 5D imp more power than it already has is a feat.That's a statement. Not a feat.He's more powerful than his descendants because the narrative says he is. Not Superman's word, not some other character's word, the narrative. You're arguing against the writing itself.The narrative in Marvel also says that Odin is omnipotent.So...
Quote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 11:06:06 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 11:05:00 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 10:47:13 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 10:40:19 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 10:31:27 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on January 12, 2016, 09:53:21 PMQuote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 07:31:17 PM>fgts think that Supes One Million is the best one hereThe guy is basically featless and needed a Green Lantern ring to win in a fight. Saitama or the mecha thing win.He's more powerful than his fifth-dimensional descendant. That speaks volumes.Saitama has no feats that put him on par with Supes' usual Post-Crisis level, much less his best version.Feats > Statements Power scaling only works in Dragon Ball.Being powerful enough to give a 5D imp more power than it already has is a feat.That's a statement. Not a feat.He's more powerful than his descendants because the narrative says he is. Not Superman's word, not some other character's word, the narrative. You're arguing against the writing itself.The narrative in Marvel also says that Odin is omnipotent.So...He is via the Odinforce. Not that that means much since there's assloads of omnipotent people running around in Marvel and most of them are more powerful than him because there are tiers of omnipotence.This has nothing to do with Superman, though.
Oh my god man, Odin is NOT omnipotent. Do you even know the meaning of omnipotence? Damn.
And no, no matter how powerful Superman gets he is not getting on Galactus, the Celestials or even Necro King Thor.
Quote from: Korra Kenobi on January 12, 2016, 11:12:41 PMOh my god man, Odin is NOT omnipotent. Do you even know the meaning of omnipotence? Damn.Allow Kubik to set things straight. This is how omnipotence works in Marvel. Odin is omnipotent according to how Marvel defines it.QuoteAnd no, no matter how powerful Superman gets he is not getting on Galactus, the Celestials or even Necro King Thor.How are they relevant in the slightest?
I know of that scan. But that just means that they have limited ranges, even with a supposed infinite power. But then again, omnipotence means absolute power. The only true omnipotent in Marvel is TOAA. No one else because they have limited range. So that only makes them extremely powerful to a degree, that's why Space Gods > Skyfathers.
Well see, Superman Prime can supposedly beat the mecha thing here. That thing destroyed its native universe and rebuilt it.
What I am saying is that SPrime is not that powerful at all, he is at most as powerful as a mid-fed Galactus if we go by statements.
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