For someone who constantly complains about how boring this place is, you sure make a lot of topics about it's eventual fate. I'm starting to think you aren't as bored as you say you are.

Death by dilution. Think of all the easy new trolling victims.

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 29, 2015, 01:22:54 AM

Quote from: Shub-Niggurath on April 29, 2015, 01:20:34 AM

Death by dilution. Think of all the easy new trolling victims.

Which sounds like fun until they outnumber you 10:1 and force the admins to change the rules to suit them.

I'd probably still just ban you for fun.

But hopefully summer brings in more people.

Quote from: Shub-Niggurath on April 29, 2015, 01:20:34 AM

Death by dilution. Think of all the easy new trolling victims.

Which sounds like fun until they outnumber you 10:1 and force the admins to change the rules to suit them. The reason rules are so relaxed here is because there's no need for stricter rules right now.

Quote from: Yu on April 29, 2015, 01:46:02 AM

Considering Sep7 isn't attached to anything, comparing new blood to the influx of desticles that plague b.net's forums would be a horrible comparison. The majority of new members that have joined, after the initial few months of Sep7's start up, were great, but left for their own reasons.

Can we even name 10 members who aren't from the B.net community though? Hell, I'd be really freaking shocked if there were that many.

And Sep7agon is an analogy to my first option rather than second.

I'd rather it not die, but the main reason for the drop in activity is mainly the fault of the staff, for not getting rid of problem members.
The most quoted reason for people not staying is "drama", most of which was entirely avoidable with the sacrifice of about 3 users.
The next thing quoted is that this place is just shitposting, while not that avoidable, it's quite easy to stem the tide.
Hell, we've seen what happens when a couple of shitposters get banned, the quality of the forum increase. Not massively, but any increase is an improvement.

So yeah, I'd rather see us get new blood than die from stagnation, but things need to change a little before we can actually grow.

What do you mean notable?
How can a new user become notable?

Holy fucking lol, nothing about the shitposting here is "occasional".

Shitposting in threads is fine, but people come here, see a load of threads with nothing to discuss and realise they can go to more active forums if they want that sort of thing.
You're right that they don't harm the community, but they act as a buffer to new people looking for worth in this site when determining to stay or not.

We're talking about members being dissuaded from coming here and leaving, it doesn't matter if they stand out or not because they leave before they really become active.

Look at the users that make the most threads, most of those threads are shitposts.
You can't call that a small amount and that's only from a tiny number of users.

Talking about shitposting however, you weren't here for it, but new rules limiting it were introduced, so take that into account when you're looking at the amount of them currently. And even then there's still a large number.

Realistically, the shitposting is a small matter compared to the manner of some users and the drama.

Quote from: Byrne on April 29, 2015, 03:19:13 AM

We're talking about members being dissuaded from coming here and leaving, it doesn't matter if they stand out or not because they leave before they really become active.

Gives yet more legitimacy to my earlier suggestion that nearly all of the active members here came from B.net.

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Look at the users that make the most threads, most of those threads are shitposts.
You can't call that a small amount and that's only from a tiny number of users.

Talking about shitposting however, you weren't here for it, but new rules limiting it were introduced, so take that into account when you're looking at the amount of them currently. And even then there's still a large number.

Realistically, the shitposting is a small matter compared to the manner of some users and the drama.

Then what should be done about some of those users? Like.. Challenger, Deci, me(?) etc? They aren't exactly breaking any rules by causing drama. It would be unjust to remove them based on that alone. And banning any of them would cause a lot more drama.

For example, when it comes to problematic users, this is going back a few months, there was a user who a mod informed me should have gotten a ban for their actions, they were in fact breaking rules. However, because the rules the user was breaking weren't enforced much before, the mod said he couldn't ban the user because it would be unfair.
Unfair to enforce rules. And that user created a lot of drama and perpetuated a ton of bad blood amongst the community and still does.
That's exactly the type of drama that has driven many new members away.

Are you telling me that's acceptable when we're slowly fading?[/spoiler]

You have a point, but it's the job of the staff to see this place does well, some flames for a short while for the betterment of the site should be somthing they're ready to deal with.
We shouldn't be afraid of backlash from bnet, we're not an offsite, we're our own site now.

As for rules

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And the spam was halted, the result was noted by a number of members I talked to as a front page clear of bullshit and for the first time in a while, a page full of threads worth discussion.
Hell, that was noted by mods too.

You can't tell me that's a bad effect for a short chimpout by shitposters.

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 29, 2015, 04:28:41 AM

Quote from: Byrne on April 29, 2015, 04:24:02 AM

You have a point, but it's the job of the staff to see this place does well, some flames for a short while for the betterment of the site should be somthing they're ready to deal with.
We shouldn't be afraid of backlash from bnet, we're not an offsite, we're our own site now.

Never implied that there'd by any backlash from B.net. What I'm talking about is within our own community. Like with the whole thing with S\ash.

I was basing that off what's been said to me by staff before, they were quite afraid of banning users early on in case we got a bad rep over on Bnet.

Again, with Slash, he got banned for a fair reason, whether I think the length of the ban was warranted is another thing.
The backlash there started because people got up in arms when there wasn't a reason for the ban forthcoming, but that was because what he did was to do with private information about another users that shouldn't be repeated.
And the whole fuss kicked up to show off the shit users. So no large loss there, like you said yourself.

Indeed, that's what I'd like, for the mods to be tougher and more ready to take action. Which is something I've been saying since I got here.
It's a pity they learn slowly, usually things only change after a massive shitstorm.
They're generally reluctant to even try to change.