Started with SC's misandry, ended with the Verbatim Mental Olympics.

Isn't that truly what we all think of when we come here?

That's actually what I was expecting to see, except I was expecting to see someone else here in addition, but I came back too late.

Their curves and features are mesmerizing, not even in an erotic sense.

i've never been less wrong

This is a beautiful sculpture. There’s also nothing wrong with the female body or admiring it. Grow up already verbatim you’re acting like a little kid afraid of cooties.

Nope

You are a dumb fuck when your logic is literally “Boobies! How preposterous!”

you're a dumb fuck when your logic is "i'm going to pretend you've only made one point that you never even made"

i dont know how many women's nipples youve seen verb but those are definitely not in the realm of unrealistic

lmao

Wait wait wait, you say that wind is used to exploit the female form by having her be clothed, but haven't you been thinking that it's the other way around? Clothes are used to portray the wind? I don't see any other way to effectively portray the wind other than adding clothes and/or using longer hair. Using longer hair by itself would not be impressive enough, so artist used clothes.

And what with nipples? For what I see nipples are fine, they aren't too big, average middle size nipples.

Flute being a phallic symbol? I honestly have no words for this one, except that even I can't imagine it like phallic symbol.

First thing I imagined seeing this statue is woman waiting for someone near sea on the edge of some hill, a symbol which I see often used. Flute just adds to that in sense that it provides additional detail in memory of person she assumably waits for.

Maybe you should stop thinking outside your little box and stop to act on provocations people throw at you.

this is what i like to call "being obtuse on purpose"

to illustrate the point further, her navel is also very prominent, which is very stupid and not at all how clothes work, i don't care how windy it is outside

but yeah no, i only hate it because she has boobs and i hate boobs because i'm gay, clearly

just like that's the only reason you guys LIKE it, because you're shallow and retarded like that

"I don't find it admirable therefore no one does."

Art is subjective Verb. I for one find the female form pleasant to look at even outside of an erotic sense; I don't know why that's so hard for you to compute.

because it actually doesn't make any sense unless you're planning on explaining yourself

i don't know how you expect me to grapple with what amounts to a "nuh-uh"

Quote from: Rescue on October 25, 2018, 05:23:42 PM

You are a dumb fuck when your logic is literally “Boobies! How preposterous!”

you're a dumb fuck when your logic is "i'm going to pretend you've only made one point that you never even made"

Your point was the sculpture is distasteful because it showed a female body and that’s bad because men like female bodies

Honestly if you want to attention whore you could at least make an educated argument

Quote from: Rescue on October 25, 2018, 07:23:51 PM

Your point was the sculpture is distasteful because it showed a female body and that’s bad because men like female bodies

not even close

It’s either that or that she’s not sculpting a proper female body which I’m sure you’re an expert of

Quote from: Rescue on October 25, 2018, 07:29:13 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 25, 2018, 07:24:51 PM

Quote from: Rescue on October 25, 2018, 07:23:51 PM

Your point was the sculpture is distasteful because it showed a female body and that’s bad because men like female bodies

not even close

It’s either that or that she’s not sculpting a proper female body which I’m sure you’re an expert of

and only experts are allowed to have opinions or to be at all critical of anything

which is why you're critiquing my critique, because you're an expert on criticism

I never said you weren’t allowed to critique

I just said your critique was stupid as fuck (as usual)

K bye

BOOBS

BOOBS

heh...Not on my watch, kiddo.

KILL ALL MEN

finally youre making sense

Or it could just be a good looking woman instead of some old hag. Both would be impressive but there’s nothing inherently wrong with either.

I didn't say it was wrong. I said it's selling out. I can't see many reasons why a woman would seek to design such a sexualised sculpture beyond appealing to a wider audience. Just like the designer of Bayonetta, and how she was a woman.

There's an argument to be made that men tend to create overly sexualised depictions of men throughout time. From ancient sculture by the Greeks and Romans to modern stuff like Dragon Ball Z. There is a false equivolency between masculine and feminine conventions of beauty, though. The female conventions of beauty have inherently less utility than masculine conventions, so a woman sculpting the "ideal woman" is not akin to the work of someone like Glykon, who sculpted Hercules as a supremely muscular man. Men want to look ideal because these ideals embody strength and power, and holding these traits makes them more desirable to be chosen as mates and leaders. Traditional female conventions of beauty are entirely sexual with no utility beyond seducing men (barring something like child bearing hips, which this sculpture isn't concerned with emphasising if we're discussing utility), and can't really be held to the same standard as masculinity.

I don't have a problem with female sexuality or beautiful women being depicted, but artists have an uphill battle in this regard. Have a beautiful woman battling a lion, ruling a court, or thinking earnestly. It's a disservice to objectify women by depicting their ideal form as nothing more than eye candy.