Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:03:48 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:57:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct"."for a healthy state of being" No shit.I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:57:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct"."for a healthy state of being" No shit.I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.
Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct".
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.
Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.
Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.
Quote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.
It's not about solving problems
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:50:28 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:48:34 AMBefore this thread I was pretty much a nihilist, but now I prefer whatever you call trying to be productive. I'm not quite a utilitarian, but I believe that life doesn't hold a purpose, so you should make the purpose to produce as much as you can. Be evil, be good, it doesn't matter. Be producitve in the way that you think is the best."I can't think of any real reasons to choose a moral path in life and defend it, so I'll just say be productive. God I sound so smart!"You can be productive by doing moral things like buying ice cream for children to make them happy, or to help an old person across the street.If you think it's insulting to the old man, then you're smart. The old man in this scenario is fully capable of doing it himself, and asking to help him will make him think that he's losing his abilities, which will kill him faster according to Psychology.Same thing goes for offering your seat on the bus. A guy has gray hair, and I'm thinking should I offer my seat? Then I think no, because I realize that he can't be more than 60, so it'd be an insult to him.There's nothing wrong with morality, but don't do a task blindly and call it moral, because the truth is more important. Would you rather feel like you helped someone but actually screwed them over, or actually help them by not doing anything directly, or at all?
Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:48:34 AMBefore this thread I was pretty much a nihilist, but now I prefer whatever you call trying to be productive. I'm not quite a utilitarian, but I believe that life doesn't hold a purpose, so you should make the purpose to produce as much as you can. Be evil, be good, it doesn't matter. Be producitve in the way that you think is the best."I can't think of any real reasons to choose a moral path in life and defend it, so I'll just say be productive. God I sound so smart!"
Before this thread I was pretty much a nihilist, but now I prefer whatever you call trying to be productive. I'm not quite a utilitarian, but I believe that life doesn't hold a purpose, so you should make the purpose to produce as much as you can. Be evil, be good, it doesn't matter. Be producitve in the way that you think is the best.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:05:49 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:03:48 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:57:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct"."for a healthy state of being" No shit.I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:04:20 PMLOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy.you're probably the worst troll ever
LOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy.
Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:59:32 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:50:28 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:48:34 AMBefore this thread I was pretty much a nihilist, but now I prefer whatever you call trying to be productive. I'm not quite a utilitarian, but I believe that life doesn't hold a purpose, so you should make the purpose to produce as much as you can. Be evil, be good, it doesn't matter. Be producitve in the way that you think is the best."I can't think of any real reasons to choose a moral path in life and defend it, so I'll just say be productive. God I sound so smart!"You can be productive by doing moral things like buying ice cream for children to make them happy, or to help an old person across the street.If you think it's insulting to the old man, then you're smart. The old man in this scenario is fully capable of doing it himself, and asking to help him will make him think that he's losing his abilities, which will kill him faster according to Psychology.Same thing goes for offering your seat on the bus. A guy has gray hair, and I'm thinking should I offer my seat? Then I think no, because I realize that he can't be more than 60, so it'd be an insult to him.There's nothing wrong with morality, but don't do a task blindly and call it moral, because the truth is more important. Would you rather feel like you helped someone but actually screwed them over, or actually help them by not doing anything directly, or at all?"Being good HURTS PEEPUL!!! BEING GUD IS BAAAAD!!! ILLUMANERTI"
Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:07:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:05:49 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:03:48 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:57:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct"."for a healthy state of being" No shit.I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.Happiness = slavery. Gotchya. I can now discount your future opinions and posts in their entirety.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 12:06:52 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:04:20 PMLOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy.you're probably the worst troll everThe fuck? I'm not trolling, and depression IS the opposite of being happy. I can tell you're defeated because you're back peddling to throwing out insults rather than addressing my points and using evidence to support your own claims (which you never do in the first place). But sure, just call me a troll because I've proved you wrong.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:10:50 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 12:06:52 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:04:20 PMLOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy.you're probably the worst troll everThe fuck? I'm not trolling, and depression IS the opposite of being happy. I can tell you're defeated because you're back peddling to throwing out insults rather than addressing my points and using evidence to support your own claims (which you never do in the first place). But sure, just call me a troll because I've proved you wrong.I think that depression is the lack of drive, not feelings.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:08:55 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:07:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:05:49 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:03:48 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:57:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct"."for a healthy state of being" No shit.I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.Happiness = slavery. Gotchya. I can now discount your future opinions and posts in their entirety.But it literally is though.
depression IS the opposite of being happy
Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:12:12 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:10:50 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 12:06:52 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:04:20 PMLOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy.you're probably the worst troll everThe fuck? I'm not trolling, and depression IS the opposite of being happy. I can tell you're defeated because you're back peddling to throwing out insults rather than addressing my points and using evidence to support your own claims (which you never do in the first place). But sure, just call me a troll because I've proved you wrong.I think that depression is the lack of drive, not feelings.Depression is a lot of things mixed into one, but not one of them is happiness.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:10:50 PMdepression IS the opposite of being happyNo, I'm pretty sure that being sad is the opposite of happiness. There is much more to depression.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:13:08 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:12:12 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:10:50 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 12:06:52 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:04:20 PMLOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy.you're probably the worst troll everThe fuck? I'm not trolling, and depression IS the opposite of being happy. I can tell you're defeated because you're back peddling to throwing out insults rather than addressing my points and using evidence to support your own claims (which you never do in the first place). But sure, just call me a troll because I've proved you wrong.I think that depression is the lack of drive, not feelings.Depression is a lot of things mixed into one, but not one of them is happiness.Do you know what'd happen if you'd have "a lot of things mixed into one" for a prolonged period of time- say 1 month? You'd fucking explode m8 deadThe mind can't keep up with that.
Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:11:34 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:08:55 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:07:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:05:49 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:03:48 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:57:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct"."for a healthy state of being" No shit.I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.Happiness = slavery. Gotchya. I can now discount your future opinions and posts in their entirety.But it literally is though.But it literally isn't.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:13:28 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:11:34 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:08:55 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:07:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:05:49 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:03:48 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:57:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct"."for a healthy state of being" No shit.I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.Happiness = slavery. Gotchya. I can now discount your future opinions and posts in their entirety.But it literally is though.But it literally isn't.Then explain its existence.
Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:15:23 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:13:28 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:11:34 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:08:55 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:07:58 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 12:05:49 PMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 12:03:48 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:57:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AMQuote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AMIt's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.Yes it is.It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.Christ you're a casual.Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct"."for a healthy state of being" No shit.I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.Happiness = slavery. Gotchya. I can now discount your future opinions and posts in their entirety.But it literally is though.But it literally isn't.Then explain its existence.First you must establish your base more clearly. "Happiness = slavery" is not clear, but a general and vague statement. Explain how it is slavery.
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 12, 2015, 11:07:28 PMHow do you feel about the patriot act?Indifferent.I have nothing to hide, so I have nothing to fear.
How do you feel about the patriot act?
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 11:16:07 PMQuote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 12, 2015, 11:07:28 PMHow do you feel about the patriot act?Indifferent.I have nothing to hide, so I have nothing to fear.sheep
"Eh it's not going to fuck me up permanently, why not?"and then i tried itand then i was satisfied with the fact i didnt feel normal because feeling normal was soul crushingly depressing
Quote from: eggsalad on July 13, 2015, 12:39:39 PM"Eh it's not going to fuck me up permanently, why not?"and then i tried itand then i was satisfied with the fact i didnt feel normal because feeling normal was soul crushingly depressingthe idea that human beings need foreign substances NOT to feel soul-crushingly depressedis even more soul-crushing and depressinglike, i hate humans so much more every day
judge me as much as you want
Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on July 13, 2015, 01:40:00 PMjudge me as much as you wantOh, I will.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 11:52:57 PMQuote from: TBlocks on July 12, 2015, 11:47:41 PMThis thread tho*shrug*people will always defend their habits, no matter how stupidYou really need to drop the holier than thou attitude.
Quote from: TBlocks on July 12, 2015, 11:47:41 PMThis thread tho*shrug*people will always defend their habits, no matter how stupid
This thread tho