Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 11:52:57 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on July 12, 2015, 11:47:41 PM

This thread tho

*shrug*

people will always defend their habits, no matter how stupid

You really need to drop the holier than thou attitude.

Quote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AM

Quote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AM

It's not about solving problems

Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.

If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.

And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.

Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.

Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.

So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.

Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act.

There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs

Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.

Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AM

Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act.

So nothing is artificial. Okay.

My point still stands that doing drugs for fun is a waste of time that accomplishes nothing.

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There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs

Except I never used the word "unnatural".
Ever.

Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AM

Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.

You realize it's possible to be happy without drugs, right?

I do it every day.

Every single day, I don't do drugs. And I'm still relatively happy.

Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AM

Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AM

Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AM

Quote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AM

It's not about solving problems

Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.

If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.

And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.

Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.

Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.

So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.

Yes it is.

It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.

He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.

Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.

If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.

Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.

Christ you're a casual.

Quote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:12:38 AM

Quote from: The Hån on July 12, 2015, 11:32:31 PM

smoked pot twice when i was 16.(omg so overrated)


i did xannax this year but only bc i really needed to calm down.


sorta ashamed of the first one tho.

Why are you ashamed? Because other people tell you that you need to feel ashamed? Because it's "wrong"?

Yes. He should feel ashamed.

Correct. There is no such thing as artificial, at all.

Well hmm, "artificial" implies "unnatural", doesn't it? You idiot.

Oh sure it's possible, but why forgo a chance to increase it even more, or just stimulate happiness.

Plus, all your "non-artificial" happiness is from drugs, every day.

And LOL BS you're happy. I see you post all the time about how seriously depressed you are.

Quote from: Rinev on July 13, 2015, 11:46:46 AM

Come on Verb, can't you see that weed is natural? I see at least five chipmunks a day putting leaves in some paper, rolling it up, and lighting it on fire while it's in their mouth.

Really though, just because it's a plant doesn't make it natural to get high off it.

Actually it's one of the most natural acts there is to do - using your environment.

Smoke weed and/or tobacco - that's natural.

Cook and eat meat and plants - that's natural.

Eat poisonous berries and die - that's natural.

Create items to stimulate happiness - that's natural.

There's nothing unnatural about what weed is or does or how humans go about sustaining happiness.

Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AM

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Quote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AM

Quote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AM

It's not about solving problems

Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.

If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.

And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.

Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.

Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.

So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.

Yes it is.

It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.

He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.

Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.

If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.

Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.

Christ you're a casual.

Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;

God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.

Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?

Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.

False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.

No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct".

Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:57:16 AM

Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AM

Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:46:16 AM

Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AM

Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:38:09 AM

Quote from: DTEDesty on July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AM

Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on July 13, 2015, 11:34:12 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:09:13 AM

Quote from: challengerX on July 13, 2015, 04:08:15 AM

It's not about solving problems

Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.

If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.

And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.

Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.

Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.

So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.

Yes it is.

It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.

He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.

Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.

If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.

Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.

Christ you're a casual.

Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;

God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.

Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?

Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.

False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.

No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct".

"for a healthy state of being" No shit.

I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.

We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.

Quote from: Verbatim on July 13, 2015, 11:55:17 AM

That's retarded and wrong, but okay.

Nope. It doesn't. As you pointed out, everything that is man-made is still natural. But the definition of "artificial" is "man-made". So, obviously, there are things that are both artificial and natural. By your logic.

Because it doesn't accomplish anything. Being happy over absolutely nothing is retarded. Insane.

Not by my own volition. There's a difference between choosing to do drugs yourself, and being affected by drugs without even knowing it.

Just because I'm depressed doesn't mean I can't be happy. You don't understand what depression is.

It's correct and you haven't proven me wrong in any way, but okay. Tell yourself whatever your self-serving bias needs to think you're right.

Nope. By my logic there is NO artificiality. So once again, you're wrong.

Wrong again, being happy over nothing has the benefits of being happy and producing a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is insane ignorance of the highest degree.

You choose every day to ingest drugs that cause happiness. EVERYTHING is within your control - don't try to dodge responsibility for your actions. You can choose not to be "artificially" happy at any time, since "real" happiness is unachievable, apparently.

LOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy. So once again, you're wrong. You're not happy, you're depressed. That's why it's called DEPRESSION. I'm so glad I've got a depressed boy trying to tell me how to be "truly" happy. I see it's really working out. Come back and give advice on happiness once you're "truly" happy and not depressed. It defeats your whole argument.