I don't mean to. I'm going off of your statement, "what goes into the mindset of 'i'm gonna play around with the most precious and valuable organ in my body' "
Sorry about doing this immediately after you asked me to not put words into your mouth, but your appeal to nature is pretty silly.
In that case, we shouldn't do anything that makes us happy unless it has utility.
And yes, you certainly are appealing to nature. You criticized it by saying it wasn't natural in comparison to other ways we experience happiness.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 12, 2015, 08:29:18 PMIn that case, we shouldn't do anything that makes us happy unless it has utility.i would argue that 99% of all happiness that isn't derived from drugs has some level of utlity
QuoteAnd yes, you certainly are appealing to nature. You criticized it by saying it wasn't natural in comparison to other ways we experience happiness.just ignore the fact that there's nothing intrinsically good about smoking weed, such that it should make anyone happy to smoke it, thenwhereas there IS an intrinsic good in everytihng else that i statedi think you're the one appealing to nature here"it release dopamine, therefore good"what
weed is a drugthat makes you happybut only artificially
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 12, 2015, 08:01:47 PMThere are quite a few recreational drugs that are very safe.i don't really care
There are quite a few recreational drugs that are very safe.
Okay. Argue it. And explain why recreational drugs in particular are bad, but any other chemical that you ingest or are exposed to that causes it is good (i.e., food, beverages, scents, etc.).
At no point did I say that something is good if it releases dopamine. I'm pointing out how flawed it is to say meeting a friend is good because it makes you happy, but marijuana is bad because it makes you happy artificially.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 08:03:59 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 12, 2015, 08:01:47 PMThere are quite a few recreational drugs that are very safe.i don't really careYeah guys he doesn't care that there are safe drugs.That's why he made this thread calling everyone who uses threads dumb, because he doesn't care.
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 12, 2015, 08:42:44 PMQuote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 08:03:59 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 12, 2015, 08:01:47 PMThere are quite a few recreational drugs that are very safe.i don't really careYeah guys he doesn't care that there are safe drugs.That's why he made this thread calling everyone who uses threads dumb, because he doesn't care.i care if you do drugsi don't care if drugs are safethis isn't complicated
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 12, 2015, 08:37:32 PMOkay. Argue it. And explain why recreational drugs in particular are bad, but any other chemical that you ingest or are exposed to that causes it is good (i.e., food, beverages, scents, etc.).you need food to liveyou can live a full life without ever smoking a single joint
I can live a full life without ever eating a perfectly cooked steak or a pint of ice cream, yet you're not on here giving people shit for sharing their experiences of their first time eating those.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 08:44:13 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 12, 2015, 08:37:32 PMOkay. Argue it. And explain why recreational drugs in particular are bad, but any other chemical that you ingest or are exposed to that causes it is good (i.e., food, beverages, scents, etc.).you need food to liveyou can live a full life without ever smoking a single jointa perfectly cooked steak
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 12, 2015, 08:49:03 PMI can live a full life without ever eating a perfectly cooked steak or a pint of ice cream, yet you're not on here giving people shit for sharing their experiences of their first time eating those.i'm a veganyes i do
It's just so pointless to take issue with the exact cause of peoples' happiness in a time where the means to experience it are so common and available. If happiness in itself has utility and benefits the human condition, then it shouldn't matter what the source is (assuming it's ethical; like, it's not okay to derive happiness from murdering toddlers).
Verb brah I guarantee you would be much happier if you changed your philosophies. Completely disregard the possibility that they may even be 100% correct and see that your ideas are not doing you any favors in terms of your own personal happiness man.
Okay, how about a delicious salad? Or a vegan dessert? Now you're just being pedantic.
It's just so pointless to take issue with the exact cause of peoples' happiness in a time where the means to experience it are so common and available.
If happiness in itself has utility and benefits the human condition, then it shouldn't matter what the source is (assuming it's ethical; like, it's not okay to derive happiness from murdering toddlers).
food happiness has utilityweed highs do not
QuoteIt's just so pointless to take issue with the exact cause of peoples' happiness in a time where the means to experience it are so common and available.in other words, "millions of people smoke weed and enjoy it, so it's pointless to be upset about it"
but happiness does not have utility in itself
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 09:01:07 PMfood happiness has utilityweed highs do notYou need to meet more people, breh. Some people actually need it to get through the day, no joke.
Name ANY (ethical) recreational activity that doesn't involve any kind of drug.The pleasure derived from that activity is going have more utility than any recreational drug.
Never done drugs.And I won't.
is just pointless.
Of course it does. Happiness is essential to one's health.
QuoteOf course it does. Happiness is essential to one's health.a pedophile rapes a ten year old and feels happy