What you must know before you see American Sniper

AngryBrute · January 10, 2015, 10:56:28 AM

"Oh thats just another American propaganda film!" Oh cry me river, make like geese and get the flock out of here then... I remember a time when you could watch a movie like this, and it not be accused of propaganda.

American Sniper is about the most lethal sniper in US history Chris Kyle.

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These are some interviews you should be aware of.

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Lemy the Lizerd · January 10, 2015, 11:37:48 AM

Chris Kyle was a racist, a religious nut, and he boosted his kill count by shooting every male he saw above a certain age.

Chris Kyle's behavior and attitude are a stain on the honor of the United States Armed Forces.

Oh, and fuck you it is propaganda.

More Than Mortal · January 10, 2015, 11:48:49 AM

Why is this even in Serious?

Super Irish · January 10, 2015, 11:49:27 AM

It might not be on par as Green Beret, but I doubt it won't have some Pro-America/War bias in it.

Having said that, I'll watch it anyway because Clint fucking Eastwood made it, and he does good films, even if the reality behind the story isn't great.

AngryBrute · January 10, 2015, 11:54:06 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 10, 2015, 11:48:49 AM

Why is this even in Serious?

Because its not just a discussion about a film. Its about the real happenings in this guys life, like PTSD and the people he has killed. If that is not a serious topic, then idk what is...

More Than Mortal · January 10, 2015, 11:55:25 AM

Quote from: AngryBrute on January 10, 2015, 11:54:06 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 10, 2015, 11:48:49 AM
Why is this even in Serious?
Because its not just a discussion about a film. Its about the real happenings in this guys life, like PTSD and the people he has killed. If that is not a serious topic, then idk what is...

Oh, fair enough. Just wasn't very clear looking at the OP.

AngryBrute · January 10, 2015, 11:58:41 AM

Quote from: SuperIrish on January 10, 2015, 11:49:27 AM

It might not be on par as Green Beret, but I doubt it won't have some Pro-America/War bias in it.

Having said that, I'll watch it anyway because Clint fucking Eastwood made it, and he does good films, even if the reality behind the story isn't great.

He has for sure made some great ones! Like Letters from Iwo Jima. I am not doubting that it wont have pro arguments entirely, but from its overall view point-its not an actual propaganda tool like Act of Valor was.

Super Irish · January 10, 2015, 12:01:10 PM

Quote from: AngryBrute on January 10, 2015, 11:58:41 AM

Quote from: SuperIrish on January 10, 2015, 11:49:27 AM
It might not be on par as Green Beret, but I doubt it won't have some Pro-America/War bias in it.

Having said that, I'll watch it anyway because Clint fucking Eastwood made it, and he does good films, even if the reality behind the story isn't great.
He has for sure made some great ones! Like Letters from Iwo Jima. I am not doubting that it wont have pro arguments entirely, but from its overall view point-its not an actual propaganda tool like Act of Valor was.

Haven't seen AoV, I'll check it out sometime.

R o c k e t · January 10, 2015, 12:02:39 PM

I heard he had died, but I didn't realize it was Stateside, by a former Marine.
That's terrible.

Lemy the Lizerd · January 10, 2015, 12:03:26 PM

You wanna have a discussion? Then let's have one.

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/07/death_of_an_american_sniper

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2012/02/pseudo-courage-of-chris-kyle.html?m=1

https://ceinquiry.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/chris-kyle-snipers/

http://nation.time.com/2013/02/04/american-cipher-1-in-2-5-million/

AngryBrute · January 10, 2015, 12:18:42 PM

I can see what you're getting at, and I am not trying to rustly your jimmies man! I just hate that argument about propaganda movies. Its annoying.

Flee · January 10, 2015, 12:44:49 PM

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Azumarill · January 10, 2015, 12:48:06 PM

Quote from: AngryBrute on January 10, 2015, 12:18:42 PM

I can see what you're getting at, and I am not trying to rustly your jimmies man! I just hate that argument about propaganda movies. Its annoying.

The trailer made it seem like there was gonna be a focus on his mental stability/the ethics and morality of what he did, instead of it just being another patriotism porn movie. Is that a fair assumption to make?

clum clum · January 10, 2015, 12:50:05 PM

This guy fits the bill for the Navy Seal copypasta

Kinder Graham · January 10, 2015, 12:50:05 PM

Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on January 10, 2015, 11:37:48 AM

Chris Kyle was a racist, a religious nut, and he boosted his kill count by shooting every male he saw above a certain age.

Chris Kyle's behavior and attitude are a stain on the honor of the United States Armed Forces.

Oh, and fuck you it is propaganda.

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AngryBrute · January 10, 2015, 12:50:39 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on January 10, 2015, 12:48:06 PM

Quote from: AngryBrute on January 10, 2015, 12:18:42 PM
I can see what you're getting at, and I am not trying to rustly your jimmies man! I just hate that argument about propaganda movies. Its annoying.
The trailer made it seem like there was gonna be a focus on his mental stability/the ethics and morality of what he did, instead of it just being another patriotism porn movie. Is that a fair assumption to make?

Thats what I drew from it. Expanding on what I said, I hate it when people label things as that as an excuse to shit all over it.

Flee · January 10, 2015, 01:13:39 PM

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Naoto · January 10, 2015, 01:15:24 PM

Don't really feel like I need a huge disclaimer before I go watch a movie.
Then again I don't tend to politicize everything.

Didn't know he'd been killed though. So that's news.

More Than Mortal · January 10, 2015, 01:15:39 PM

Quote from: Flee on January 10, 2015, 01:13:39 PM

Quote from: AngryBrute on January 10, 2015, 12:50:39 PM
xpanding on what I said, I hate it when people label things as that as an excuse to shit all over it.
To be fair, the fact that something is a blatant propaganda excuse for a movie usually is enough of a reason to berate it.

Hey, some propaganda is damned good art.

maverick · January 10, 2015, 01:26:41 PM

Quote from: SuperIrish on January 10, 2015, 12:01:10 PM

Quote from: AngryBrute on January 10, 2015, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: SuperIrish on January 10, 2015, 11:49:27 AM
It might not be on par as Green Beret, but I doubt it won't have some Pro-America/War bias in it.

Having said that, I'll watch it anyway because Clint fucking Eastwood made it, and he does good films, even if the reality behind the story isn't great.
He has for sure made some great ones! Like Letters from Iwo Jima. I am not doubting that it wont have pro arguments entirely, but from its overall view point-its not an actual propaganda tool like Act of Valor was.

Haven't seen AoV, I'll check it out sometime.

don't

challengerX · January 10, 2015, 01:27:49 PM

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DAS B00T x2 · January 10, 2015, 01:30:16 PM

Quote from: Maverick on January 10, 2015, 01:26:41 PM

Quote from: SuperIrish on January 10, 2015, 12:01:10 PM
Quote from: AngryBrute on January 10, 2015, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: SuperIrish on January 10, 2015, 11:49:27 AM
It might not be on par as Green Beret, but I doubt it won't have some Pro-America/War bias in it.

Having said that, I'll watch it anyway because Clint fucking Eastwood made it, and he does good films, even if the reality behind the story isn't great.
He has for sure made some great ones! Like Letters from Iwo Jima. I am not doubting that it wont have pro arguments entirely, but from its overall view point-its not an actual propaganda tool like Act of Valor was.

Haven't seen AoV, I'll check it out sometime.
don't

It's actually pretty good as far as cheesy military action flicks go. Unintentional comedy silver, really.

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · January 10, 2015, 01:32:10 PM

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big sponge · January 10, 2015, 01:35:31 PM

Ugh, this man shouldn't have a movie made about him. He needs to be forgotten, not immortalized.

Magos Domina · January 10, 2015, 01:38:07 PM

Well he's dead now, the world is a brighter place. Time to forget about him.

gats · January 10, 2015, 06:04:59 PM

What are the chances he shot anyone in sight? Bad guy or not, I'd say it's pretty high.

Jono · January 10, 2015, 06:07:53 PM

This looks like a great movie and I want to see it.

Jim · January 10, 2015, 06:08:36 PM

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TheOneTrueDesticle · January 10, 2015, 06:10:53 PM

It's propaganda.

Korra · January 10, 2015, 06:11:40 PM

Its just a movie, a movie based on someone's life. Nothing to get worked up about, if its good then its good and if its bad then its bad.