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What happens if Russia actually did steal the election for Trump?

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A sovereign nation that was falling apart, Russia ended the conflict quicker than it would have without it. And what does everyone else do? Embargo Russia so that the Russian people starve, keep in mind that the Russian people now include the Crimean citizens the rest of the world is trying to "Save".

Fucking idiots.

Russia has interests in Syria because they are allies, because it's the only thing keeping Russia from being on the brink of an economic collapse. The US has NO reason for being involved in Syria, other than that they're very Anti-Russian and they don't want Russia to escape the economic punishment that was unjustly instilled on them.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 26, 2016, 06:00:45 AM
Yes, the answer to a defensive missile grid is to invade a sovereign nation.

 
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Even if this is true, Assad is still the lesser evil. This is Iraq all over again, you topple Assad, then what? With IS and the Rebels in the immediate area does the US think it can install a puppet state that will blindly kiss their feet? Pffffft.

When it comes to that festering shit hole you call the Middle East on the map, there's always something worse just waiting around the corner. The US intervening will not solve any problems, what reason do the Syrians have to believe the US? Because every attempt the US has made to topple and undermine a foreign power has worked out in the past right?

Quote from: challengerX on November 26, 2016, 06:08:38 AM
This guy is one of the most brutal dictators in modern history.

 
 
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Quote from: Ian on November 26, 2016, 06:12:13 AM
A sovereign nation that was falling apart, Russia ended the conflict quicker than it would have without it.
lol
I guess England should have invaded America during the Civil War then

 
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>You're not Anti-Russia so therefore wrong.

Okay McCarthy.

Quote from: challengerX on November 26, 2016, 06:21:24 AM
When it comes to retards that have no idea what the fuck they're talking about, you really are in the top 3.

 
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England isn't right next door to us, nor would it have had any benefits in doing so. These are not even close to the same circumstances.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 26, 2016, 06:41:37 AM
lol
I guess England should have invaded America during the Civil War then

 
 
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Quote from: Ian on November 26, 2016, 06:55:54 AM
England isn't right next door to us, nor would it have had any benefits in doing so. These are not even close to the same circumstances.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 26, 2016, 06:41:37 AM
lol
I guess England should have invaded America during the Civil War then
Fine faggot, Canada then. And don't tell me that Canada wouldnt have some sweet ass territory to gain out if it.

 
 
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Quote from: Ian on November 26, 2016, 05:37:54 AM

What the flying fuck does Trump's comments over Obamacare have to do with international intervention? You're acting just like the Obama administration was before the election, completely blind to the obvious tension with Russia that they were causing. The US keeps backing them into a corner and you think Russia will just pipe down? Everyone knows that's not fair and it would be worse publicity for the US than it would be for Russia since they did nothing to start it.

Why can Trump make campaign statements, retract them but Hillary can't?


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>Anti-Russian news sources claim Russia's allies are the true terrorists

Who would've thought. Even if this is true, Assad is still the lesser evil. This is Iraq all over again, you topple Assad, then what? With IS and the Rebels in the immediate area does the US think it can install a puppet state that will blindly kiss their feet? Pffffft.

What? Germany has remained pretty impartial regardless of the US and France who are very anti-Assad so I trust their report. You're just uninformed on the situation even the US doesn't support the topple of the government just a political solution as opposed to an all out military victory for either the rebels or Assad.

 
 
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I did post a response, you dodged the issue I brought up. Keep in mind whatever response you give, I'm at work, and I'm not texting a full length discussion on it.

Quote from: challengerX on November 26, 2016, 07:36:58 AM
Would you like to respond to any of the points I made or are you just going to ignore the mountains of evidence against Assad?

 
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Quote from: gats on November 26, 2016, 07:09:39 AM
Why can Trump make campaign statements, retract them but Hillary can't?

What reason does she have to retract it? Obama isn't doing anything because it's too late in his term for it to be completed, with how close Hillary was to him, the chances of her NOT doing it was significantly low.

And if the US wants a political solution that only wants Assad out, there's two problems here.

1. Why even consider a military strategy such as a no fly zone?
2. What makes the US think the people under Assad will be any better under a different head?

 
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Canada never seemed like a country that was continuously trying to increase its sphere of influence though.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 26, 2016, 06:59:15 AM
Fine faggot, Canada then. And don't tell me that Canada wouldnt have some sweet ass territory to gain out if it.

 
 
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Quote from: Ian on November 26, 2016, 10:32:29 AM
Canada never seemed like a country that was continuously trying to increase its sphere of influence though.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 26, 2016, 06:59:15 AM
Fine faggot, Canada then. And don't tell me that Canada wouldnt have some sweet ass territory to gain out if it.
That's what you think. Never trust a leaf.

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That's a wild conspiracy theory. How would they have done it?

 
 
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Twice now you've ignored the point of what happens after the US ousts Assad.

Quote from: challengerX on November 26, 2016, 11:06:05 AM
Calling the Middle East a shithole and then calling me McCarthy isn't bringing up a point.

 
 
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Quote from: Ian on November 26, 2016, 10:30:14 AM
Quote from: gats on November 26, 2016, 07:09:39 AM
Why can Trump make campaign statements, retract them but Hillary can't?

What reason does she have to retract it? Obama isn't doing anything because it's too late in his term for it to be completed, with how close Hillary was to him, the chances of her NOT doing it was significantly low.
She would retract it because no one wants a war with Russia, especially not over a country most people in the US couldn't locate on a map like Syria.


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And if the US wants a political solution that only wants Assad out, there's two problems here.

1. Why even consider a military strategy such as a no fly zone?
2. What makes the US think the people under Assad will be any better under a different head?

I think you missed one of my points. The US stopped calling for the removal of Assad a while ago in support of the government institutions as a way of preventing another Iraq. The idea is to have the various non-AQ and IS groups find a solution with the government through constitutional amendments so that there is more local power as the Syrian constitution is highly centralised. But Assad refuses so there will be more bloodshed.


 
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Quote from: challengerX on November 26, 2016, 03:47:08 PM
There is nobody who will come out of this on top.
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Quote from: Mr Deplorable on November 26, 2016, 02:19:10 PM
The Russians did not commit voter fraud in the US. This is just more outlandish red scare nonsense.

The DNC was most definitely involved in multiple acts of voter fraud nationwide. It's possible that the Republicans committed some fraud, but I doubt it.

If this recount doesn't turn up a shitload of fraud coming out of the Dems, I'll definitely question the legitimacy of the whole thing.

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Quote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2016, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Ian on November 25, 2016, 08:44:56 PM
Assad did nothing wrong.

The only reason the US intervened is because Russia is involved.

Quote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2016, 08:42:39 PM
how does that kool aid taste?
yes assad is a wonderful benevolent leader who has never been responsible for anyone's suffering. praise be unto him!
We're talking in shades of grey here. A dictator who uses chemical weapons and other inhumane measures is much superior to a power vacuum that can bring about even worse kinds of shit.

 
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Quote from: Hargbeast on November 26, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2016, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Ian on November 25, 2016, 08:44:56 PM
Assad did nothing wrong.

The only reason the US intervened is because Russia is involved.

Quote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2016, 08:42:39 PM
how does that kool aid taste?
yes assad is a wonderful benevolent leader who has never been responsible for anyone's suffering. praise be unto him!
We're talking in shades of grey here. A dictator who uses chemical weapons and other inhumane measures is much superior to a power vacuum that can bring about even worse kinds of shit.
oh now it's shades of gray? i could have sworn i was responding to someone who said "assad did nothing wrong."

weird how that works.

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Quote from: Ian on November 25, 2016, 07:06:13 PM
is simply out of not wanting to go to war with us, which she would have caused.
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Even CNN admitted a new war was probable, NATO even put 300,000 troops on high alert, there's no other reason why they'd do that, especially after Russia relocated it's nukes to Kaliningrad..
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/us-troops-poland-cold-war-front/

 
 
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Trump gets impeached and Pence starts a Crusade as President.

 
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