Don't forget that a large number of those US numbers are from NYC where they have incredibly strict lock down measures. Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 27, 2020, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: Jono on May 27, 2020, 04:03:54 PMQuote from: Mordo on May 27, 2020, 04:02:14 PMChina isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death tollHaha propaganda machine go brrrrNOOOO NOT MY HECKIN TRUMPERINO, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE AMERISHART GREAT AGAIN, THE BLEACHERINOS WERE SUPPOSED TO CURE US.
Quote from: Mordo on May 27, 2020, 04:02:14 PMChina isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death tollHaha propaganda machine go brrrr
China isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death toll
Quote from: Mordo on May 27, 2020, 04:06:33 PMNext time pick a better example.From your own article: QuoteBut Japan’s version of “lockdown” – requests to avoid unnecessary outings, work from home and observe social distancing – came across as a timid response to a situation that risked spiraling out of control. The dispatch of two reusable masks to every household was met with derision, as people posted photographs on social media of the small, and in some cases dirty, “Abenomasks” – a play on the leader’s economic policy dubbed “Abenomics”. QuoteAbe’s performance throughout the crisis has been uneven, according to Tobias Harris, an expert on Japanese politics at Teneo consultancy. “I think he has struggled to stay ahead of events since the beginning, has not communicated effectively, and has been poorly served by his lieutenants.”QuoteThe Abe administration has gained few political dividends for its response; instead, most plaudits have gone to the quiet determination shown by the public, armed with virus-challenging habits formed long before the pandemic. Quote“I don’t think the falling number of infections is due to government policies,” said Ryuji Koike, the assistant director of Tokyo Medical and Dental university hospital. “I think it looks like Japan is doing well thanks to things that can’t be measured, like daily habits and ‘Japanese behaviour’.”QuoteJapan’s incremental exit from the state of emergency continues. Last week, Abe ended the measure in 39 prefectures, adding another three this week. Tokyo and four other prefectures could join them as early as Monday, according to media reports. You're wrong, and that's okay. Things will go back to normal before the end of the year, most people are finally starting to grow some common sense. In your own words: cope.
Next time pick a better example.
But Japan’s version of “lockdown” – requests to avoid unnecessary outings, work from home and observe social distancing – came across as a timid response to a situation that risked spiraling out of control. The dispatch of two reusable masks to every household was met with derision, as people posted photographs on social media of the small, and in some cases dirty, “Abenomasks” – a play on the leader’s economic policy dubbed “Abenomics”.
Abe’s performance throughout the crisis has been uneven, according to Tobias Harris, an expert on Japanese politics at Teneo consultancy. “I think he has struggled to stay ahead of events since the beginning, has not communicated effectively, and has been poorly served by his lieutenants.”
The Abe administration has gained few political dividends for its response; instead, most plaudits have gone to the quiet determination shown by the public, armed with virus-challenging habits formed long before the pandemic.
“I don’t think the falling number of infections is due to government policies,” said Ryuji Koike, the assistant director of Tokyo Medical and Dental university hospital. “I think it looks like Japan is doing well thanks to things that can’t be measured, like daily habits and ‘Japanese behaviour’.”
Japan’s incremental exit from the state of emergency continues. Last week, Abe ended the measure in 39 prefectures, adding another three this week. Tokyo and four other prefectures could join them as early as Monday, according to media reports.
Quote from: Mordo on May 27, 2020, 04:09:43 PMQuote from: Jono on May 27, 2020, 04:03:54 PMQuote from: Mordo on May 27, 2020, 04:02:14 PMChina isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death tollHaha propaganda machine go brrrrNOOOO NOT MY HECKIN TRUMPERINO, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE AMERISHART GREAT AGAIN, THE BLEACHERINOS WERE SUPPOSED TO CURE US.who mentioned trump?The Chinese government deserves criticism.
>"Not locking down forever will be a disaster!">Japan did minimal at the wake of pandemic>Everyone claims the country was going to become a disaster as well>They handled the pandemic fine because of everything else other than their government response>"Stay the FUCK home!" Yeah, you sure showed me. Quote from: Mordo on May 27, 2020, 04:36:20 PM
Le ebin 4channel greentext. I ask again, what's this argument shattering point you seem to have arrived at here? The US population has proved time and time again that they lack the capability of putting safety before individual preferences throughout this crisis. Japan has not. Your comparisons are bogus.
Quote from: Ian on May 27, 2020, 04:27:22 PMDon't forget that a large number of those US numbers are from NYC where they have incredibly strict lock down measures. Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 27, 2020, 04:25:07 PMI mean, nyc would have been like, 4x worse if cuomo hadn't told all the poors to stay home
If the US is doing so unbelievably poorly, how about you respond to the numbers Das brought up?
Or the fact that a good portion of the US numbers are from places with strict draconian lock down measures?
Or are you going to ignore it and just make laughably false insinuations about 30 million unemployed people some more since that seems to be your biggest gripe.
Would really appreciate a source on this that isn't a jpeg.
This is more a US societal problem than it is a Covid problem. Your entire economy is predicated on a dog eat dog mentality that if the poor can't cut it then they're left on the scrap heap, even during a crisis which they have no control over. Every other developed nation has their workers on a furlough scheme because they recognise that saving lives takes precedent over capitalist greed and producitivity
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on May 27, 2020, 04:34:17 PMQuote from: Mordo on May 27, 2020, 04:09:43 PMQuote from: Jono on May 27, 2020, 04:03:54 PMQuote from: Mordo on May 27, 2020, 04:02:14 PMChina isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death tollHaha propaganda machine go brrrrNOOOO NOT MY HECKIN TRUMPERINO, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE AMERISHART GREAT AGAIN, THE BLEACHERINOS WERE SUPPOSED TO CURE US.who mentioned trump?The Chinese government deserves criticism.I agree. But it's also possible to hold the opinion that China deserves its day in the ICJ and also condemn America's handling of the crisis. Its not a mutually exclusive concept.
https://www.wthr.com/article/vermont-orders-walmart-target-stop-selling-non-essential-items-store>No purchasing gardening supplies because growing your own produce is more dangerous than buying produce that has been coughed on by people who may have Covid-19. https://ktla.com/news/local-news/officials-paddleboarder-arrested-at-malibu-pier-for-flouting-state-stay-at-home-order/>No paddleboarding in the ocean by yourself because you might infect the lifeguard with Covid-19. >https://www.gameandfishmag.com/editorial/mixed-signals-on-fishing-during-covid-19-crisis/374430>No fishing (a usually solitary hobby or one with minimal P2P contact) in Washington state.
It's funny that you say that considering: 1. European and Asian countries are starting to reopen slowly as well.
2. American workers who weren't laid off (because small businesses with owners who are just scraping by can't survive an elongated lock down process) are furloughed as well (I was furloughed).
3. You talk about "American capitalist greed" for wanting to go back to work yet some of the biggest corporations like Walmart, Amazon, and Target have been making money hand over fist due to this pandemic and the top richest people in the world only got more rich because of the pandemic (Link here).
4. This pandemic and it's lock down is sending millions of people into crippling poverty (Link here).
Yup. And South Korea saw 40 new fresh covid cases as a result. WONT SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE ECONOMY
At what point do you think we're never going to get infected?
And what do you think the economy is?
The point where we develop a a vaccine, if and when it's possible
Where the opulent rich get richer and those at the bottom get the shaft, as it has always been since the inception of capitalism.
Seeing as that is not for the foreseeable future, when do you suggest we reopen?
I won't argue there but ignoring the rich and looking at the poor or hell even middle class, they are part of the economy too. Whether you think they're slaves to wages or whatever, their survival is tied to the economy as of right now so what do you think we should do about that?
Quote from: Ingy on May 29, 2020, 07:14:44 PMSeeing as that is not for the foreseeable future, when do you suggest we reopen?When we have sustainable control of the virus via social distancing. QuoteI won't argue there but ignoring the rich and looking at the poor or hell even middle class, they are part of the economy too. Whether you think they're slaves to wages or whatever, their survival is tied to the economy as of right now so what do you think we should do about that?Continue social distancing and until deaths and infection rates are controllable. What about this is so convoluted.
eat out to help out
Quote from: Fedorekd on September 08, 2020, 03:23:02 AMeat out to help outDid that to your mom last night
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