Just to get a judge that isn't one of her friends means moving the case to LA.
Quote from: Elegiac on September 29, 2014, 04:14:18 AMQuote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:12:38 AMQuote from: Elegiac on September 29, 2014, 04:09:00 AMAt least you have the children to draw some stability from. You seem to acknowledge that. Apart from that... you have my anger on your behalf.Unless they get divorced and his wife gets custody. Which will happen since this is the U.S.Not always. I think Charlie should be able to present himself as the primary care giver quite easily from what I remember.Charlie will still get some custody, like on weekends and stuff. But full custody is only given to men in very extreme cases, such as the woman being deemed mentally unfit.
Quote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:12:38 AMQuote from: Elegiac on September 29, 2014, 04:09:00 AMAt least you have the children to draw some stability from. You seem to acknowledge that. Apart from that... you have my anger on your behalf.Unless they get divorced and his wife gets custody. Which will happen since this is the U.S.Not always. I think Charlie should be able to present himself as the primary care giver quite easily from what I remember.
Quote from: Elegiac on September 29, 2014, 04:09:00 AMAt least you have the children to draw some stability from. You seem to acknowledge that. Apart from that... you have my anger on your behalf.Unless they get divorced and his wife gets custody. Which will happen since this is the U.S.
At least you have the children to draw some stability from. You seem to acknowledge that. Apart from that... you have my anger on your behalf.
Quote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:24:01 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:21:58 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 04:18:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:01:27 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 03:53:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?It's never late. You're not forced to go get the baby. Nobody's holding you at gunpoint. Your wife has broken her wedding vows and has been sneaky about it too. Is this really the type of person you want to raise kids with? Is she really the person who should mother these children, when she has already shown no interest in doing so? Let me tell you something, a lot of women adopt because they think they're supposed to have kids. Please, don't do this. It's not right. It's not right for the kids to live like this, and it's not right for you to have to eventually take care of two kids on your own. Cut your losses and give this one kid the best you can.I know your heart is in the right place, but stop. Just stop. If I go it alone, I am pushing through with this. My son will have a brother.I strongly disagree and I think you're just going to get even more grief from this plus an extra kid growing up in a broken home, but it's your life. It's not the fact that the kid might be ok, it's that his childhood will be sad. You shouldn't force another kid to live in your life, with a woman who barely cares and cheated on you. Whatever. Do what you gotta do.Can I use your time machine for a bit? Because clearly you know the future.Oh, so the kids WON'T be sad when they grow up without a mom?
Quote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:21:58 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 04:18:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:01:27 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 03:53:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?It's never late. You're not forced to go get the baby. Nobody's holding you at gunpoint. Your wife has broken her wedding vows and has been sneaky about it too. Is this really the type of person you want to raise kids with? Is she really the person who should mother these children, when she has already shown no interest in doing so? Let me tell you something, a lot of women adopt because they think they're supposed to have kids. Please, don't do this. It's not right. It's not right for the kids to live like this, and it's not right for you to have to eventually take care of two kids on your own. Cut your losses and give this one kid the best you can.I know your heart is in the right place, but stop. Just stop. If I go it alone, I am pushing through with this. My son will have a brother.I strongly disagree and I think you're just going to get even more grief from this plus an extra kid growing up in a broken home, but it's your life. It's not the fact that the kid might be ok, it's that his childhood will be sad. You shouldn't force another kid to live in your life, with a woman who barely cares and cheated on you. Whatever. Do what you gotta do.Can I use your time machine for a bit? Because clearly you know the future.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 04:18:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:01:27 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 03:53:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?It's never late. You're not forced to go get the baby. Nobody's holding you at gunpoint. Your wife has broken her wedding vows and has been sneaky about it too. Is this really the type of person you want to raise kids with? Is she really the person who should mother these children, when she has already shown no interest in doing so? Let me tell you something, a lot of women adopt because they think they're supposed to have kids. Please, don't do this. It's not right. It's not right for the kids to live like this, and it's not right for you to have to eventually take care of two kids on your own. Cut your losses and give this one kid the best you can.I know your heart is in the right place, but stop. Just stop. If I go it alone, I am pushing through with this. My son will have a brother.I strongly disagree and I think you're just going to get even more grief from this plus an extra kid growing up in a broken home, but it's your life. It's not the fact that the kid might be ok, it's that his childhood will be sad. You shouldn't force another kid to live in your life, with a woman who barely cares and cheated on you. Whatever. Do what you gotta do.
Quote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:01:27 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 03:53:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?It's never late. You're not forced to go get the baby. Nobody's holding you at gunpoint. Your wife has broken her wedding vows and has been sneaky about it too. Is this really the type of person you want to raise kids with? Is she really the person who should mother these children, when she has already shown no interest in doing so? Let me tell you something, a lot of women adopt because they think they're supposed to have kids. Please, don't do this. It's not right. It's not right for the kids to live like this, and it's not right for you to have to eventually take care of two kids on your own. Cut your losses and give this one kid the best you can.I know your heart is in the right place, but stop. Just stop. If I go it alone, I am pushing through with this. My son will have a brother.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 03:53:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?It's never late. You're not forced to go get the baby. Nobody's holding you at gunpoint. Your wife has broken her wedding vows and has been sneaky about it too. Is this really the type of person you want to raise kids with? Is she really the person who should mother these children, when she has already shown no interest in doing so? Let me tell you something, a lot of women adopt because they think they're supposed to have kids. Please, don't do this. It's not right. It's not right for the kids to live like this, and it's not right for you to have to eventually take care of two kids on your own. Cut your losses and give this one kid the best you can.
Quote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?
I knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.
Quote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:30:55 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:29:01 AMQuote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:24:01 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:21:58 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 04:18:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:01:27 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 03:53:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?It's never late. You're not forced to go get the baby. Nobody's holding you at gunpoint. Your wife has broken her wedding vows and has been sneaky about it too. Is this really the type of person you want to raise kids with? Is she really the person who should mother these children, when she has already shown no interest in doing so? Let me tell you something, a lot of women adopt because they think they're supposed to have kids. Please, don't do this. It's not right. It's not right for the kids to live like this, and it's not right for you to have to eventually take care of two kids on your own. Cut your losses and give this one kid the best you can.I know your heart is in the right place, but stop. Just stop. If I go it alone, I am pushing through with this. My son will have a brother.I strongly disagree and I think you're just going to get even more grief from this plus an extra kid growing up in a broken home, but it's your life. It's not the fact that the kid might be ok, it's that his childhood will be sad. You shouldn't force another kid to live in your life, with a woman who barely cares and cheated on you. Whatever. Do what you gotta do.Can I use your time machine for a bit? Because clearly you know the future.Oh, so the kids WON'T be sad when they grow up without a mom? You don't know that they will be sad. It's up to Charlie to determine that. I sure as hell wasn't sad that my parents were divorced because of how well I was treated. My father had full custody.A little kid won't be sad he doesn't have a mom/dad? Come on man. If you have the financial stability and you think you can get custody, it won't be that bad. But what if she gets custody? You'll barely be there for them, no matter how much you want to be. That's torture for yourself and the kids. I just don't see it. I get that it was your dream and your plan to have kids, but I don't know. Fucking bitch couldn't have told you before? Why the fuck does she even want the kids?
Quote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:29:01 AMQuote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:24:01 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:21:58 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 04:18:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:01:27 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 03:53:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?It's never late. You're not forced to go get the baby. Nobody's holding you at gunpoint. Your wife has broken her wedding vows and has been sneaky about it too. Is this really the type of person you want to raise kids with? Is she really the person who should mother these children, when she has already shown no interest in doing so? Let me tell you something, a lot of women adopt because they think they're supposed to have kids. Please, don't do this. It's not right. It's not right for the kids to live like this, and it's not right for you to have to eventually take care of two kids on your own. Cut your losses and give this one kid the best you can.I know your heart is in the right place, but stop. Just stop. If I go it alone, I am pushing through with this. My son will have a brother.I strongly disagree and I think you're just going to get even more grief from this plus an extra kid growing up in a broken home, but it's your life. It's not the fact that the kid might be ok, it's that his childhood will be sad. You shouldn't force another kid to live in your life, with a woman who barely cares and cheated on you. Whatever. Do what you gotta do.Can I use your time machine for a bit? Because clearly you know the future.Oh, so the kids WON'T be sad when they grow up without a mom? You don't know that they will be sad. It's up to Charlie to determine that. I sure as hell wasn't sad that my parents were divorced because of how well I was treated. My father had full custody.
Quote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:43:27 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:41:13 AMQuote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:30:55 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:29:01 AMQuote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:24:01 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:21:58 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 04:18:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:01:27 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 03:53:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?It's never late. You're not forced to go get the baby. Nobody's holding you at gunpoint. Your wife has broken her wedding vows and has been sneaky about it too. Is this really the type of person you want to raise kids with? Is she really the person who should mother these children, when she has already shown no interest in doing so? Let me tell you something, a lot of women adopt because they think they're supposed to have kids. Please, don't do this. It's not right. It's not right for the kids to live like this, and it's not right for you to have to eventually take care of two kids on your own. Cut your losses and give this one kid the best you can.I know your heart is in the right place, but stop. Just stop. If I go it alone, I am pushing through with this. My son will have a brother.I strongly disagree and I think you're just going to get even more grief from this plus an extra kid growing up in a broken home, but it's your life. It's not the fact that the kid might be ok, it's that his childhood will be sad. You shouldn't force another kid to live in your life, with a woman who barely cares and cheated on you. Whatever. Do what you gotta do.Can I use your time machine for a bit? Because clearly you know the future.Oh, so the kids WON'T be sad when they grow up without a mom? You don't know that they will be sad. It's up to Charlie to determine that. I sure as hell wasn't sad that my parents were divorced because of how well I was treated. My father had full custody.A little kid won't be sad he doesn't have a mom/dad? Come on man. If you have the financial stability and you think you can get custody, it won't be that bad. But what if she gets custody? You'll barely be there for them, no matter how much you want to be. That's torture for yourself and the kids. I just don't see it. I get that it was your dream and your plan to have kids, but I don't know. Fucking bitch couldn't have told you before? Why the fuck does she even want the kids?Will the kid be bummed put out his parents don't live together? Maybe. But you're acting like they will grow up without their mother and will have miserable lives.That is just bullshit.Most do have miserable childhoods. There's no bullshit about it, it's a fucking fact.
Quote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:41:13 AMQuote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:30:55 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:29:01 AMQuote from: Septy on September 29, 2014, 04:24:01 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:21:58 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 04:18:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 04:01:27 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 29, 2014, 03:53:26 AMQuote from: challengerX on September 29, 2014, 03:50:50 AMI knew it. That sucks man. You shouldn't adopt another kid. I won't tell you to divorce or stay, that's up to you. But you shouldn't force another kid to have to deal with this.Its a wee bit late to back out now. He is being born as we type this. I have a cab here in 3 hours and 9 minutes to take me to the airport for the flight to Jacksonville.What a great night to break the news to me, eh?It's never late. You're not forced to go get the baby. Nobody's holding you at gunpoint. Your wife has broken her wedding vows and has been sneaky about it too. Is this really the type of person you want to raise kids with? Is she really the person who should mother these children, when she has already shown no interest in doing so? Let me tell you something, a lot of women adopt because they think they're supposed to have kids. Please, don't do this. It's not right. It's not right for the kids to live like this, and it's not right for you to have to eventually take care of two kids on your own. Cut your losses and give this one kid the best you can.I know your heart is in the right place, but stop. Just stop. If I go it alone, I am pushing through with this. My son will have a brother.I strongly disagree and I think you're just going to get even more grief from this plus an extra kid growing up in a broken home, but it's your life. It's not the fact that the kid might be ok, it's that his childhood will be sad. You shouldn't force another kid to live in your life, with a woman who barely cares and cheated on you. Whatever. Do what you gotta do.Can I use your time machine for a bit? Because clearly you know the future.Oh, so the kids WON'T be sad when they grow up without a mom? You don't know that they will be sad. It's up to Charlie to determine that. I sure as hell wasn't sad that my parents were divorced because of how well I was treated. My father had full custody.A little kid won't be sad he doesn't have a mom/dad? Come on man. If you have the financial stability and you think you can get custody, it won't be that bad. But what if she gets custody? You'll barely be there for them, no matter how much you want to be. That's torture for yourself and the kids. I just don't see it. I get that it was your dream and your plan to have kids, but I don't know. Fucking bitch couldn't have told you before? Why the fuck does she even want the kids?Will the kid be bummed put out his parents don't live together? Maybe. But you're acting like they will grow up without their mother and will have miserable lives.That is just bullshit.
Well shit, I hope you manage to sort that all out, at the very least give the kids a chance to live good lives. I know how it is to have your parents divorce at a young age, it wasn't the best time of my life.
I don't know what to say man.I guess good luck in whatever happens.Would Mrs charlie even want full custody?
Quote from: Lord Ruler on September 29, 2014, 08:14:36 AMI don't know what to say man.I guess good luck in whatever happens.Would Mrs charlie even want full custody?I don't know. We are in the truth and reconciliation phase. If she gets mad enough, anything is possible.
You should consider handling your relationship issues before obtaining another infant.