Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 17, 2014, 02:15:24 PMI'm going to stick my neck out here and just say the social justice "movement", as a whole, isn't particularly agreeable. It really ought to be a non-movement, like atheism.What exactly is your definition of social justice?
I'm going to stick my neck out here and just say the social justice "movement", as a whole, isn't particularly agreeable. It really ought to be a non-movement, like atheism.
Who is Zoe Quinn and why should I care?
A feminist "game developer" that made some choose your own adventure story style game about dealing with depression. To get people to download it, she fucked a reviewer from Kokatu. When her boyfriend found out he turned /v/ loose on her. They did the usual 4chan routine, and she called foul. Of course, that made them go full retard. Now, people like OP are using this as an excuse to talk about corruption in game reviews, reporting and such.
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Quote from: Verbatim on September 17, 2014, 02:18:29 PMWho is Zoe Quinn and why should I care?A feminist "game developer" that made some choose your own adventure story style game about dealing with depression. To get people to download it, she fucked a reviewer from Kokatu. When her boyfriend found out he turned /v/ loose on her. They did the usual 4chan routine, and she called foul. Of course, that made them go full retard. Now, people like OP are using this as an excuse to talk about corruption in game reviews, reporting and such.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 17, 2014, 02:19:15 PMQuote from: Le Dustin on September 17, 2014, 02:17:13 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 17, 2014, 02:15:24 PMI'm going to stick my neck out here and just say the social justice "movement", as a whole, isn't particularly agreeable. It really ought to be a non-movement, like atheism.What exactly is your definition of social justice?The ability for individuals to have the freedom to pursue their potential, free from the coercion of both other agents and abstract issues, and to get what they deserve from society.And I'm assuming you don't agree with the last bit of that? Or what is it you don't find agreeable?
Quote from: Le Dustin on September 17, 2014, 02:17:13 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 17, 2014, 02:15:24 PMI'm going to stick my neck out here and just say the social justice "movement", as a whole, isn't particularly agreeable. It really ought to be a non-movement, like atheism.What exactly is your definition of social justice?The ability for individuals to have the freedom to pursue their potential, free from the coercion of both other agents and abstract issues, and to get what they deserve from society.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 17, 2014, 02:20:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on September 17, 2014, 02:18:29 PMWho is Zoe Quinn and why should I care?A feminist "game developer" that made some choose your own adventure story style game about dealing with depression. To get people to download it, she fucked a reviewer from Kokatu. When her boyfriend found out he turned /v/ loose on her. They did the usual 4chan routine, and she called foul. Of course, that made them go full retard. Now, people like OP are using this as an excuse to talk about corruption in game reviews, reporting and such.It's not an excuse, it's because they are linked. You also left out the part about TFYC and the Game Jams, that's where the corruption comes into it.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 17, 2014, 02:27:02 PMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 17, 2014, 02:20:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on September 17, 2014, 02:18:29 PMWho is Zoe Quinn and why should I care?A feminist "game developer" that made some choose your own adventure story style game about dealing with depression. To get people to download it, she fucked a reviewer from Kokatu. When her boyfriend found out he turned /v/ loose on her. They did the usual 4chan routine, and she called foul. Of course, that made them go full retard. Now, people like OP are using this as an excuse to talk about corruption in game reviews, reporting and such.It's not an excuse, it's because they are linked. You also left out the part about TFYC and the Game Jams, that's where the corruption comes into it.Who fucking cares? Corruption is corporate money in politics. Its collusion between banks in setting up predatory lending. This is retarded that anyone cares. Yes, gaming is a big business. But it affects people in the thousands. It just seems to me that this is just an excuse to go after a "feminist" for hypocrisy.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 17, 2014, 02:32:18 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on September 17, 2014, 02:27:02 PMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 17, 2014, 02:20:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on September 17, 2014, 02:18:29 PMWho is Zoe Quinn and why should I care?A feminist "game developer" that made some choose your own adventure story style game about dealing with depression. To get people to download it, she fucked a reviewer from Kokatu. When her boyfriend found out he turned /v/ loose on her. They did the usual 4chan routine, and she called foul. Of course, that made them go full retard. Now, people like OP are using this as an excuse to talk about corruption in game reviews, reporting and such.It's not an excuse, it's because they are linked. You also left out the part about TFYC and the Game Jams, that's where the corruption comes into it.Who fucking cares? Corruption is corporate money in politics. Its collusion between banks in setting up predatory lending. This is retarded that anyone cares. Yes, gaming is a big business. But it affects people in the thousands. It just seems to me that this is just an excuse to go after a "feminist" for hypocrisy. Not everyone is as laid back about corruption as you then. I don't care about Quinn's views, or her game. I do however care about not seeing corruption run rampant because people are apathetic over it.By your own logic, should it just be perfectly acceptable for corruption to be in politics? Or in banks? Everyone knows that it exists, but does that really mean it shouldn't be challenged or rooted out?The same goes for video gaming, you might not care but I don't want to see the games I like continue to be affected by this shit.Dew n Doritos reviewing is already fucking up AAA games, making them warp to fit the perceived standard of reviewing. Nobody is trying anything new, the ones that do seem to just get panned by critics and it's just frustrating to see shittier and shittier games get churned out because of this.It's not just some isolated little problem with one developer and a circlejerk of reviewers.If you really don't care, then good for you.
No, care about the corruption that matters. Prioritize. The US Chamber of Commerce regularly pushes for lax rules about offshoring US jobs to China, India and Thailand. They have one of the largest lobbying budgets in the world. Every politician that takes their money is responsible for every unemployed person that could be building cars, computers, or anything else that should be manufactured here. When your friends graduate from where ever with a CompSci degree, why they have to compete with a guy in India willing to write that same code for $15 an hour!THAT'S what you should keep your eye on. This is peanuts on the corruption scale.
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 17, 2014, 01:43:14 PMQuote from: God on September 17, 2014, 01:28:34 PMThe Fine Young Capitalists were able to recover from their hack and reach their funding goal and Phil Phish's career is over, so some good came out of it.To bad it seems they've bribed the mods on 4chan to ban and blacklist any discussion on the matter even though moot said it was ok. Gamergate threads have been censored for days now. If you can't beat them, cheat them seems to be the the mantra these people live by.Wait, who did that? TFYC?
Quote from: God on September 17, 2014, 01:28:34 PMThe Fine Young Capitalists were able to recover from their hack and reach their funding goal and Phil Phish's career is over, so some good came out of it.To bad it seems they've bribed the mods on 4chan to ban and blacklist any discussion on the matter even though moot said it was ok. Gamergate threads have been censored for days now. If you can't beat them, cheat them seems to be the the mantra these people live by.
The Fine Young Capitalists were able to recover from their hack and reach their funding goal and Phil Phish's career is over, so some good came out of it.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 17, 2014, 02:37:43 PMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 17, 2014, 02:32:18 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on September 17, 2014, 02:27:02 PMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 17, 2014, 02:20:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on September 17, 2014, 02:18:29 PMWho is Zoe Quinn and why should I care?A feminist "game developer" that made some choose your own adventure story style game about dealing with depression. To get people to download it, she fucked a reviewer from Kokatu. When her boyfriend found out he turned /v/ loose on her. They did the usual 4chan routine, and she called foul. Of course, that made them go full retard. Now, people like OP are using this as an excuse to talk about corruption in game reviews, reporting and such.It's not an excuse, it's because they are linked. You also left out the part about TFYC and the Game Jams, that's where the corruption comes into it.Who fucking cares? Corruption is corporate money in politics. Its collusion between banks in setting up predatory lending. This is retarded that anyone cares. Yes, gaming is a big business. But it affects people in the thousands. It just seems to me that this is just an excuse to go after a "feminist" for hypocrisy. Not everyone is as laid back about corruption as you then. I don't care about Quinn's views, or her game. I do however care about not seeing corruption run rampant because people are apathetic over it.By your own logic, should it just be perfectly acceptable for corruption to be in politics? Or in banks? Everyone knows that it exists, but does that really mean it shouldn't be challenged or rooted out?The same goes for video gaming, you might not care but I don't want to see the games I like continue to be affected by this shit.Dew n Doritos reviewing is already fucking up AAA games, making them warp to fit the perceived standard of reviewing. Nobody is trying anything new, the ones that do seem to just get panned by critics and it's just frustrating to see shittier and shittier games get churned out because of this.It's not just some isolated little problem with one developer and a circlejerk of reviewers.If you really don't care, then good for you.No, care about the corruption that matters. Prioritize. The US Chamber of Commerce regularly pushes for lax rules about offshoring US jobs to China, India and Thailand. They have one of the largest lobbying budgets in the world. Every politician that takes their money is responsible for every unemployed person that could be building cars, computers, or anything else that should be manufactured here. When your friends graduate from where ever with a CompSci degree, why they have to compete with a guy in India willing to write that same code for $15 an hour!THAT'S what you should keep your eye on. This is peanuts on the corruption scale.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 17, 2014, 02:43:06 PMNo, care about the corruption that matters. Prioritize. The US Chamber of Commerce regularly pushes for lax rules about offshoring US jobs to China, India and Thailand. They have one of the largest lobbying budgets in the world. Every politician that takes their money is responsible for every unemployed person that could be building cars, computers, or anything else that should be manufactured here. When your friends graduate from where ever with a CompSci degree, why they have to compete with a guy in India willing to write that same code for $15 an hour!THAT'S what you should keep your eye on. This is peanuts on the corruption scale.I never got the "we should ignore bad things because there are worse things" argument, it's not like an entire society can't multitask.
Quote from: God on September 17, 2014, 01:47:18 PMQuote from: Lord Commissar on September 17, 2014, 01:43:14 PMQuote from: God on September 17, 2014, 01:28:34 PMThe Fine Young Capitalists were able to recover from their hack and reach their funding goal and Phil Phish's career is over, so some good came out of it.To bad it seems they've bribed the mods on 4chan to ban and blacklist any discussion on the matter even though moot said it was ok. Gamergate threads have been censored for days now. If you can't beat them, cheat them seems to be the the mantra these people live by.Wait, who did that? TFYC?The SJWs.
Sooooo... The Quinnspiracy.
