Quote from: N'awoo on January 13, 2016, 03:33:37 PMno idea why they try to integrate mentally disabled people with the "normies". like, they can be in the same school, but, give them their own building and own classes. it sucks being in a cooking class with a retard in your group. luckily, they were sent to do dishes while everyone competent enough can cook.Generally, its been found that when the students are isolated from other students, the content they learn isn't sufficient enough for standardized testing. Along with that, the teachers themselves tend to communicate lower expectations for the students, leading to self fulfilling prophecies about their inability to complete work.
no idea why they try to integrate mentally disabled people with the "normies". like, they can be in the same school, but, give them their own building and own classes. it sucks being in a cooking class with a retard in your group. luckily, they were sent to do dishes while everyone competent enough can cook.
Quote from: CÆSAR GAIVS AVTISMVS on January 13, 2016, 05:09:49 PMQuote from: Trayvon Martinez on January 13, 2016, 03:52:16 PMQuote from: N'awoo on January 13, 2016, 03:33:37 PMno idea why they try to integrate mentally disabled people with the "normies". like, they can be in the same school, but, give them their own building and own classes. it sucks being in a cooking class with a retard in your group. luckily, they were sent to do dishes while everyone competent enough can cook.Generally, its been found that when the students are isolated from other students, the content they learn isn't sufficient enough for standardized testing. Along with that, the teachers themselves tend to communicate lower expectations for the students, leading to self fulfilling prophecies about their inability to complete work.I can back this up with personal experience since I was shoehorned into the special ed department due to having Asperger Syndrome. The whole time they would underwhelm me even though I had no significant intellectual impairments beyond the realm of mathematics. Needless to say, I went through four years of secondary school language arts without being exposed to any of the major staples of Western humanities. I would imagine that you've seen and heard of similar situations since you're studying to become a teacher.My experiences haven't been as much the same. I think it's mainly because of the fact that schools have pushed in inclusion classrooms rather than creating completely different classrooms for differentiating learning for the students. From asking teachers during my first block though, completely different classes are only used in severe cases nowadays, aka people whose learning is so severe they need assistance with basic life skills. However, I do think this is a district by district thing and I'm not touching into differentiation and accommodations for students until this semester. It is however a double edge sword from what I've learned so far. I worked with eighth grade inclusion students last semester that were still at a fifth grade math level. A lot of them also had a third grade ZPD reading level as well. Some of those students I would say really needed to be in a classroom that works at a pace more suited for the students. However, we had to push them along and attempt to teach them pre-algebra when they had difficultly with basic stuff.
Quote from: Trayvon Martinez on January 13, 2016, 03:52:16 PMQuote from: N'awoo on January 13, 2016, 03:33:37 PMno idea why they try to integrate mentally disabled people with the "normies". like, they can be in the same school, but, give them their own building and own classes. it sucks being in a cooking class with a retard in your group. luckily, they were sent to do dishes while everyone competent enough can cook.Generally, its been found that when the students are isolated from other students, the content they learn isn't sufficient enough for standardized testing. Along with that, the teachers themselves tend to communicate lower expectations for the students, leading to self fulfilling prophecies about their inability to complete work.I can back this up with personal experience since I was shoehorned into the special ed department due to having Asperger Syndrome. The whole time they would underwhelm me even though I had no significant intellectual impairments beyond the realm of mathematics. Needless to say, I went through four years of secondary school language arts without being exposed to any of the major staples of Western humanities. I would imagine that you've seen and heard of similar situations since you're studying to become a teacher.
The autistic guy in my class is hilarious
