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ISIS wanted a fight. Now they have it

 
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Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2015, 04:00:40 PM
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Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2015, 03:39:37 PM
No they don't. What the hell are you talking about?

It's not the world vs Islam if all muslims don't join them.
I'm beginning to think you don't understand the difference between what they wish for and what they'll actually get. I know it's not the world vs the muslims. I'm saying that's what ISIS wishes they could get.
It's the world vs ISIS, which is what they don't want as they can't get all Muslims to join them.

What they want and what they'll get are two very different things.
Well, regardless of what we think they want (it's just so much speculation at this point), I think we can all agree it'd be wonderful to finally see their capital of Raqqa get bombed to the ground and their leader burn.

I just hope it's sooner rather than later. As in, I hope the entire EU gets off their asses now and does something more.

 
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Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on November 19, 2015, 04:14:40 PM
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There's been a few great articles posted on who ISIS is and what they want.

First and foremost their primary target are Muslims who don't hold their worldview. They want to be the new Caliphate and have Muslims everywhere worship the way they dictate.

Secondly they are a doomsday cult. They believe that the end times can't start until the evil forces of the west battle them en masse. Only then could Allah come down and settle the whole mess.

People don't seem to get this. I see too many posts yelling for full scale deployment of our entire military. This would grant legitimacy to what ISIS wants. The more conservative Muslims would see it as the end times and join them. The other terrorist groups would join them. I think this is why we have a strategy of limited engagements and air strikes. Anon joining in cripples their recruiting and communications which keeps them local, and diminishes their ranks.

 
 
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I think the reason we don't deploy military is because we just got done with one and the American public doesn't support another boots on the ground war yet.

And the other is our leaders are insanely cautious of another blunder, and want the Muslim nations to make it their fight, and we support them. I highly doubt every muslim would join them for doomsday shit.

 
 
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Quote from: Luciana on November 19, 2015, 04:27:28 PM
I think the reason we don't deploy military is because we just got done with one and the American public doesn't support another boots on the ground war yet.

And the other is our leaders are insanely cautious of another blunder, and want the Muslim nations to make it their fight, and we support them. I highly doubt every muslim would join them for doomsday shit.

Not every Muslim, just the hardcore conservative ones. The ones who actually believe in a doomsday. If ISIS were to cause something that looks like what's in that, then they have their legitimacy. Most Muslims would likely see it as yet another fringe group getting bombed by the US, but the ones out on the edge would buy it and that would change the fight.

And you're spot on about the American public.

 
 
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Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on November 19, 2015, 04:36:37 PM
Quote from: Luciana on November 19, 2015, 04:27:28 PM
I think the reason we don't deploy military is because we just got done with one and the American public doesn't support another boots on the ground war yet.

And the other is our leaders are insanely cautious of another blunder, and want the Muslim nations to make it their fight, and we support them. I highly doubt every muslim would join them for doomsday shit.

Not every Muslim, just the hardcore conservative ones. The ones who actually believe in a doomsday. If ISIS were to cause something that looks like what's in that, then they have their legitimacy. Most Muslims would likely see it as yet another fringe group getting bombed by the US, but the ones out on the edge would buy it and that would change the fight.

And you're spot on about the American public.
Okay I can understand this.

Honestly, I would support boots on the ground, so long as we don't try to once AGAIN try and nation build. We're not Rome, we don't do a good job at it.

Though that might just let another fringe group take its place, hence why we're promoting the Muslim nations to actually do the fighting. King of Jordan supports that too.

 
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Why not just order a well aimed and contained Exterminatus? Oh well, I guess that bombing them to kingdom come is fun as well.

 
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Yeah, and nation building is what tends to create these groups. ISIS started out as Al Qaeda in Iraq.

 
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