Quote from: Batch on January 11, 2018, 07:29:40 PM

Oi Verb, have you seen Angel Beats yet?

it's on the list

looks like a bunch of bullshit, so i'll be sure to check it out

Aww its actually quite nice...its got 'feels'. Starts off a bit weird but I feel like you'd like it

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Quote from: Verbatim on January 11, 2018, 10:36:14 AM

fate is not a series i want to fuck with for a while

mainly because of this shit

it's also pure trash

Says the faggot who likes Mari and probably Eva 3.0 as well.

The nasuverse was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.

Not if you accept the truth that only Carnival Phantasm is canon.

Lancer ga shinda!

dont watch fate

Quote from: oss on January 11, 2018, 11:21:00 PM

dont watch fate

this

if you aren't going to read the light novels or VN in it's original Japanese don't even bother

Isn't the VN literaly like the length of the Bible-per route?
Either way /Zero is love /Zero is life, and nothing is canon but Carnival Phantasm anyway.

longest running weebery thread would be made by THE hater of weebery

Quote from: Dietrich Six on January 11, 2018, 05:39:07 PM

Ooooh, my heart. I think you're just reading too much into it. You want so badly for it to align with your philosophies that you're choosing to ignore all the evidence to the contrary.

that's why i'm conflicted about it, and perhaps you'll see what i'm talking about when you finish it

though, even if i am reading too much into it, i don't think there's such a thing as an invalid takeaway

They were trying way too hard with that ending, smashed that feels button.

It was nice that they didn't pussy out and do the cliche reset ending.

Review "A Silent Voice"

very first item listed in the OP

Devilman Crybaby (Science Saru, 2018, completed) After giving this show multiple rewatches over the past few days, I think I can finally see where I stand with it now. I've tried somewhere between 70 to 80 different shows and films of all genres, popular and obscure, and none of the shows have come close to what I'd describe as my "dream anime." I've come to accept within myself that anime, as a medium, simply doesn't have a lot to offer somebody like me. Most of it is made for human beings who possess a joe de vivre to some degree. It's for people who enjoy simple pleasures (sex, violence, cute things, bla bla bla) that are unchallenging, quickly digested, and easy to enjoy. It's for escapists. It's a highly consumable and disposable medium for people who don't like to think very much, and just wish to be entertained in some carnal way, because it lets them live in a zanier world for a little while. Personally, I hate everything about this, which is why it's so difficult for me to find anything to enjoy from this medium, and why I look down at people who are able to. Escapism isn't artistic to me. It's pap. And then a show like this comes along. Now, Devilman Crybaby is not my dream anime because it I think it's this "deep" story filled with these incredibly intelligent themes that are far too sophisticated for your average viewer. It's very much the opposite of that, since its messages and themes are bludgeoned across your head, repeatedly, with a lead pipe. Devilman Crybaby comes closest to my dream anime because it takes all of the beaten and abused tropes that I normally HATE about this fucking medium, and actually uses them in what I'd consider to be an interesting, justified, and tasteful manner. By deconstructing several of the worst and most insufferable cliches in shonen, it's able to use these tropes for good, rather than evil, albeit in an extremely disturbing and brutally violent fashion. Whereas most anime are lighthearted, life-affirming, and don't take themselves very seriously, this is the most misanthropic anime I've ever seen. And I love that so much about it. The show relishes in displaying just how disgusting, depraved, and callous the human race really is—and while the show is about demons, the demons are used as a metaphor or pseudo-foil, not to highlight the differences between humans and demons, but to highlight our similarities. Everyone has their demons, because we ARE demons. We are horrible, depraved, mindless beings with a capacity to do much good in the world, but so often do we succumb to our most base desires. Now, I can see how people might roll their eyes at this. There are definitely moments of stupidity and hamfistedness here and there, where the sheer volume of the tropes being lambasted tends to overshadow the commentary. Less intelligent viewers will probably write the show off and mistake it for just another mindless edgy fuckfest with lots of sex and violence, rather than a comment on that form of entertainment. I didn't miss the point, though, and hopefully if you try the show for yourself, I will have adequately prepared you for it. It's relentlessly dark and depressing, though, and there's a lot of strange and bizarre shit early on that will make you question why you're watching it at first. And by the end, you might just feel empty. It's really difficult to describe the appeal of this show to someone who has conventional tastes in anime. While it is neither deep nor subtle, it's still not for the faint of heart. But I love all the characters. I love the story being told, and everything that happens just feels so "right." I wasn't into the music at first, but it's definitely grown on me. But still, even if you watch it, you might even be shocked to discover that someone like me was able to find enjoyment out of it. The easiest way to put it is this: The show made me feel something, and I felt it intensely, which is more than I can say for the vast majority of shit that I've seen. It's not perfect, but this is still a prime example of something that "transcends" anime for me. It's fucking great, and I wouldn't be opposed to checking out the manga, or even the first animated series based off of it. 8/10

Elfen Lied (Arms, 2004, completed) Most people seem to understand that this show isn't good, so I'm not going to dwell on it too much. I will say that I expected to hate it a lot more than I did, but I actually found plenty of things to like about it. It's essentially a less mature version of the show I just got done praising. It's just as dark and violent, and has a lot of the same themes, but with none of the style, taste, execution, or development. I've heard the show described as "baby's first dark anime," and I can see where that statement is coming from. I like Lucy as a character, and that's about it. Whereas the sex and violence in Devilman is used to create a beautiful grotesque of human nature, the nudity and violence in Elfen Lied is really just there for the fanservice and shock value. It's the exact opposite, and it really shows. That all being said, I didn't absolutely hate the show with every fiber of my being. It's not the worst thing I've ever seen. I can think of at least ten other shows I've seen that are far worse. Maybe twenty. So a part of me understands why the show is disliked, but there's another part of me that's confused as to why the show is hated so very much. But such is the anime community, I suppose. 3/10

Sword Art Online (A-1 Productions, 2012, completed) I've been watching this show in the background for quite awhile, slowly taking each episode in, because I know that this is a "special" show. It's everyone's favorite. And now that I'm done with it, I'm once again left wondering why so many people hate this show so goddamn much. From my point of view, this show is everything that an anime fan could ever want and THEN some. But don't get me wrong, though. I'm not saying I liked Sword Art Online. Just look at my score. What I'm saying is, if you REALLY hate this show, then why do you like anime at all? Because this show is everything that anime is, always was, and always will be. If you like Dragon Ball, if you like Eva, if you like Ghost in the Shell, and ESPECIALLY if you like Gurren Lagann, I see literally no reason why you wouldn't like this show. None whatsoever. So please, someone explain that to me. If you enjoy anime, why do you hate this show? Why is this show not perfect for you? Because from what I can tell, it has everything an anime fan could ever want. Every character, every trope, every plot point. This is what you want. It was specifically made for people like you. So what the fuck is the problem? Consider me baffled. 1/10

Eromanga Sensei (A-1 Productions, 2014, two episodes) I could copy and paste my entire Sword Art Online rant and place it here. This is another show that's very unpopular with anime fans, and I just cannot figure out why. I think the problem is that I view you all as tasteless degenerates, so when I'm given a show that appeals exclusively to tasteless degenerates, it's very confusing to me when the tasteless degenerates aren't just eating it up. Either way, I guess it doesn't matter that much. I'm not gonna continue torturing myself with this one. It's bad. It's abhorrent. You know it, I know it. Moving right along. 1/10

Angel Beats! (P.A. Works, 2010, three episodes) To its credit, based on the title and posters, I wasn't expecting this show to actually have a plot, so I was pleased to discover that it actually does. It's not a very compelling one, though, and I found myself bored with the characters and their so-tragic-it's-hard-to-take-seriously backstories. Overall, it feels like a dull kiddie drama. Can't get into it. 4/10

Verbaltims Sword Art Online review

Sword Art Online (A-1 Productions, 2012, completed) I've been watching this show in the background for quite awhile, slowly taking each episode in, because I know that this is a "special" show. It's everyone's favorite. And now that I'm done with it, I'm once again left wondering why so many people hate this show so goddamn much. From my point of view, this show is everything that an anime fan could ever want and THEN some. But don't get me wrong, though. I'm not saying I liked Sword Art Online. Just look at my score. What I'm saying is, if you REALLY hate this show, then why do you like anime at all? Because this show is everything that anime is, always was, and always will be. If you like Dragon Ball, if you like Eva, if you like Ghost in the Shell, and ESPECIALLY if you like Gurren Lagann, I see literally no reason why you wouldn't like this show. None whatsoever. So please, someone explain that to me. If you enjoy anime, why do you hate this show? Why is this show not perfect for you? Because from what I can tell, it has everything an anime fan could ever want. Every character, every trope, every plot point. This is what you want. It was specifically made for people like you. So what the fuck is the problem? Consider me baffled. 1/10

Where should I even begin...

Sword Art Online (A-1 Productions, 2012, completed) I've been watching this show in the background for quite awhile, slowly taking each episode in, because I know that this is a "special" show. It's everyone's favorite. And now that I'm done with it, I'm once again left wondering why so many people hate this show so goddamn much.

The thing is that a lot of people actually like this show, than dislike it. It is very popular in Japan. It`s just people who hate this show are more noticable than people who like it. Why? SAO has a lot of flaws and if you defend this show, it is easy to prove you wrong, which makes confessing that you like this show pretty embarassing.

If you enjoy anime, why do you hate this show? Why is this show not perfect for you?

Let`s go over my reasons I dislike it.

-Protagonist

Protagonist`s personality is annoying as fuck. Just saying that.

Protagonist is overpowered. It`s why people like this show. People probably like putting themselves on place of protagonist and like to imagine themselves overpowered. However...

Protagonist is overpowered, but it makes no sense. SAO is described as MMO game. And while people around him is gathering in groups, helping each other, our boy Kirito goes alone, but somehow is still the most powerful character in this show. Which leads me to my second complaint...

-This show story doesn`t make any sense, at all, even in terms of itself

SAO described as MMO game. SAO is described as hyped game, where people got in due to it`s popularity. However when people got inside into it, almost nobody knows how to play it, which doesn`t makes any sence, since game was around for some time, it even has beta testers, which means there was beta testing and at least some people should know something about the game.

Antagonist of first season traps 10,000 people in game, yet in real life nobody tries to catch him and stop this.

SAO says when person dies in game, person dies in real life. However Kirito somehow survives lethal damage and even defeats antagonist.

SAOs continuation, GGO. "Thounsands of people died in SAO, but you know what? Let`s play some games!"

-Endings

Ending of first part of SAO can be described as this:
SAO (animation) is adaptation to SAO (ranobe, or novel, w/e floats your boat). This part was adaptation of ranobe chapter, which was clearly rushed out and thats why we stop at 75 floor instead of going to 100.

Ending of second part of SAO is literally rape.

And those are only one I pulled out of my head after watching it once 2 years ago. I pretty sure there are more. Oh, and also:

-Sword Art Online popularity

Why this show is so popular, while being so shit? Then again why Jake or Logan Paul so popular, while their content is shit? People gonna hate it just because it is popular while it is bad. There are shows far worse, but people don`t hate it, because it`s not popular.

Because from what I can tell, it has everything an anime fan could ever want. Every character, every trope, every plot point.

It`s not about anime trope itself, it`s about how it`s used. You said yourself in review of Devilman Crybaby, that tropes there were used in way they are interesting, which is not the case in SAO. You hate Ghost in the Shell, because while you might like the concept of show, you don`t like it`s realization, I hate Sword Art Online, because while I might like or enjoy anime tropes, I dislike how it was used in Sword Art Online.

Have you reviewed cowboy Bebop yet? That shit is mad depressing son.

He did

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It`s not about anime trope itself, it`s about how it`s used. You said yourself in review of Devilman Crybaby, that tropes there were used in way they are interesting, which is not the case in SAO. You hate Ghost in the Shell, because while you might like the concept of show, you don`t like it`s realization, I hate Sword Art Online, because while I might like or enjoy anime tropes, I dislike how it was used in Sword Art Online.

hmm, fair enough i suppose