The search for anime that isn't complete and utter dogshit

Verbatim · November 28, 2017, 01:09:09 PM

score distribution so far:

Spoiler

8/10

Grave of the Fireflies

7/10

Angel's Egg

6/10

Akira
Ergo Proxy
Perfect Blue

5/10

A Silent Voice
Astro Boy
Attack on Titan
Colorful
Cowboy Bebop
Cromartie High School
Death Note
Digimon Adventure
Howl's Moving Castle
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
My Neighbor Totoro
Pokémon
Psycho-Pass
Spirited Away
The Garden of Words
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time

4/10

Baccano!
Dragon Ball
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Gintama
Hunter x Hunter (2011)
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Naruto
91 Days
Princess Mononoke
Tiger & Bunny
Tokyo Godfathers
Wolf Children
Your Name

3/10

Dragon Ball Z
5 Centimeters per Second
FLCL
Inuyasha
Lupin the Third Part I
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Ponyo
Princess Jellyfish
Spice and Wolf
Steins;Gate
Yu-Gi-Oh! (Gallop)
Yu-Gi-Oh! (Toei)
Yu Yu Hakusho

2/10

Bleach
Boku no Pico
Code Geass
Ghost in the Shell
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Zatch Bell

1/10

Bobobo Bo-bobo
Gurren Lagann
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Kill La Kill
Love Live!
Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
One-Punch Man
Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt
Space Dandy

0/10

Bakemonogatari

average is 3.5/10

i already have the next few things lined up

but after that, i think i'm gonna start watching every anime released in the year i was born

which includes:

Armitage III
Diary of Anne Frank
Elf Princess Rane
El-Hazard: The Magnificent World
Fushigi Yugi: The Mysterious Play
Ghost in the Shell
Golden Boy
Gundam Wing
Gunsmith Cats
Jurassic Tripper
Magical Girl Pretty Sammy
Memories
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Ping Pong Club
Sailor Moon Super S
Saint Tail
The Silent Service
Slayers
Tenchi Universe
Tokyo Revelation
Whisper of the Heart
Wild Knights Gulkeeva
Zenki

i've already seen gits and eva, but i'm not opposed to rewatching them, especially since i still need to watch all of eva's movies as well as standalone complex and whatnot

challengerX · November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM

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Verbatim · November 28, 2017, 04:54:23 PM

Quote from: challengerX on November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM

It's getting kind of hard to believe you dislike anime

that's the impression i'm trying to create in order to be taken more seriously as an anime critic

TB · November 28, 2017, 04:55:35 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:54:23 PM

Quote from: challengerX on November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
It's getting kind of hard to believe you dislike anime
that's the impression i'm trying to create in order to be taken more seriously as an anime critic

You rated one 8/10...

Verbatim · November 28, 2017, 04:59:40 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 04:55:35 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
It's getting kind of hard to believe you dislike anime
that's the impression i'm trying to create in order to be taken more seriously as an anime critic
You rated one 8/10...

i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10??????????????????

WOW i'm such a fucking weeaboo

TB · November 28, 2017, 05:04:49 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:59:40 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
It's getting kind of hard to believe you dislike anime
that's the impression i'm trying to create in order to be taken more seriously as an anime critic
You rated one 8/10...
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10???

WOW i'm such a fucking weeaboo

I never insinuated you were a weeb you fucking retard. That was in reference to the "All anime is trash" line you spouted before.

Verbatim · November 28, 2017, 05:25:48 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 05:04:49 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
It's getting kind of hard to believe you dislike anime
that's the impression i'm trying to create in order to be taken more seriously as an anime critic
You rated one 8/10...
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10??????????????????

WOW i'm such a fucking weeaboo
I never insinuated you were a weeb you fucking retard. That was in reference to the "All anime is trash" line you spouted before.

i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10??????????????????

WOW i guess that means anime isn't trash

TB · November 28, 2017, 05:26:54 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 05:25:48 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
It's getting kind of hard to believe you dislike anime
that's the impression i'm trying to create in order to be taken more seriously as an anime critic
You rated one 8/10...
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10???

WOW i'm such a fucking weeaboo
I never insinuated you were a weeb you fucking retard. That was in reference to the "All anime is trash" line you spouted before.
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10???

WOW i guess that means anime isn't trash

All

Verbatim · November 28, 2017, 05:30:20 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 05:26:54 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
It's getting kind of hard to believe you dislike anime
that's the impression i'm trying to create in order to be taken more seriously as an anime critic
You rated one 8/10...
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10???

WOW i'm such a fucking weeaboo
I never insinuated you were a weeb you fucking retard. That was in reference to the "All anime is trash" line you spouted before.
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10???

WOW i guess that means anime isn't trash
All

objectively, all anime are 1/10

my subjective point of view on one particular anime is that it is far more enjoyable than the rest

Korra · November 28, 2017, 06:21:57 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 05:30:20 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 05:26:54 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
It's getting kind of hard to believe you dislike anime
that's the impression i'm trying to create in order to be taken more seriously as an anime critic
You rated one 8/10...
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10???

WOW i'm such a fucking weeaboo
I never insinuated you were a weeb you fucking retard. That was in reference to the "All anime is trash" line you spouted before.
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10???

WOW i guess that means anime isn't trash
All
objectively, all anime are 1/10

my subjective point of view on one particular anime is that it is far more enjoyable than the rest

Objectively you're a moron.

Subjectively, you're a silly moron.

Verbatim · November 28, 2017, 06:36:11 PM

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Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 05:30:20 PM
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Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
Quote from: TBlocks on November 28, 2017, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2017, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: challengerX on November 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
It's getting kind of hard to believe you dislike anime
that's the impression i'm trying to create in order to be taken more seriously as an anime critic
You rated one 8/10...
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10???

WOW i'm such a fucking weeaboo
I never insinuated you were a weeb you fucking retard. That was in reference to the "All anime is trash" line you spouted before.
i gave one out of sixty-six anime an 8/10???

WOW i guess that means anime isn't trash
All
objectively, all anime are 1/10

my subjective point of view on one particular anime is that it is far more enjoyable than the rest
Objectively you're a moron.

Subjectively, you're a silly moron.

objectively you should lick my dick

subjectively my balls too

Doctor Doom · November 28, 2017, 07:08:55 PM

subjectively it's anime

objectively it's japanimation

challengerX · November 28, 2017, 07:47:01 PM

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Big Boss · December 02, 2017, 09:10:24 AM

Do you have any more to say on Grave of the Fireflies

I never want to see it ever again

Verbatim · December 03, 2017, 05:29:36 PM

i updated my MAL

all of my scores down to the decimal

8.1 - Grave of the Fireflies
7.9 - Angel's Egg
6.8 - Akira
6.4 - Perfect Blue
6.3 - Ergo Proxy
5.9 - Spirited Away
5.9 - Cowboy Bebop
5.8 - Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
5.8 - Death Note
5.7 - Psycho-Pass
5.6 - Colorful (2010)
5.5 - The Garden of Words
5.5 - A Silent Voice
5.4 - Attack on Titan
5.3 - The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
5.2 - Cromartie High School
5.1 - My Neighbor Totoro
5.1 - Digimon Adventure
5.0 - Pokémon
5.0 - Astro Boy (1963)
5.0 - Howl's Moving Castle
4.9 - Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
4.9 - Princess Mononoke
4.8 - Baccano!, Baccano! Specials
4.7 - Your Name
4.6 - Naruto
4.5 - Hunter x Hunter (2011)
4.5 - Tokyo Godfathers
4.3 - 91 Days
4.2 - Legend of the Galactic Heroes
4.1 - Tiger & Bunny
4.0 - Gintama
4.0 - Wolf Children
3.9 - Neon Genesis Evangelion
3.9 - 5 Centimeters per Second
3.8 - Steins;Gate
3.8 - Lupin III
3.7 - FLCL
3.7 - Yu Yu Hakusho
3.6 - Spice and Wolf
3.5 - Ponyo
3.3 - Yu-Gi-Oh! (2000)
3.2 - Yu-Gi-Oh! (1998)
3.2 - Dragon Ball Z
3.1 - Inuyasha
3.0 - Princess Jellyfish
2.8 - Code Geass
2.6 - Puella Magi Madoka Magica
2.5 - My Hero Academia
2.5 - One Piece
2.4 - Bleach
2.3 - Zatch Bell
2.2 - The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
2.1 - Ghost in the Shell
2.0 - Boku no Pico
1.7 - One-Punch Man
1.5 - Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo
1.4 - Love Live!
1.2 - Space Dandy
1.1 - Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt
1.1 - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (2012)
1.0 - Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
1.0 - Gurren Lagann
1.0 - Kill La Kill
0.2 - Bakemonogatari

yellow = willing to rewatch

Verbatim · December 04, 2017, 12:48:15 AM

Quote from: Best Boss on December 02, 2017, 09:10:24 AM

Do you have any more to say on Grave of the Fireflies

I never want to see it ever again

Looking back, I suppose I can understand why no one has ever recommended it to me. I remember feeling extremely bitter about that, because across my six or seven years hating anime, I've made my tastes quite clear—I would give people a long laundry list of things that I did not want to see, but my folly was that I never really gave anyone a list of things that I do want to see.

Most weebs probably default to not recommending anything like Grave of the Fireflies, mostly because of how much of a downer they are. It's like popping in Requiem for a Dream at a party when you're all in the mood for a lighthearted comedy or something.

But this really is my kind of movie. Not just because it's a downer (though I do love my sob stories)—but because of how effectively it's able to channel those emotions. I hate unearned pathos in movies so much, it can really make or break a movie for me. Had GotF been directed ANY differently, I may have given it a 2/10. But there are so many of these subtle (and sometimes not-so-subtle) elements that you pick up on throughout the film, especially early on, all of which help to gradually envelop you in the ensuing tragedy.

Lots of anime films do this, but the difference is that it pays off. Albeit, it pays off in an incredibly heart-wrenching fashion, but it's the first anime I've seen that actually had a valuable message. Things that you can actually take away from and keep within you for the rest of your life, beyond just the anti-war stuff. Though, it's important to note that Takahata has repeatedly stated that it's not an anti-war film—which is fortunate, because if it were, I wouldn't have enjoyed the movie as much.

You can take it as an anti-war film, but that's not really how it's meant to be taken. Instead, I view it as an honest and candid examination of human nature. This is who we are, this is how we've always been. We can change it, but if we want to change it, we have to engage ourselves in higher thinking. Empathy is the key to a better future and whatnot. Failure to apply the golden rule will always result in us destroying ourselves.

I don't give the film a 9/10 or a 10/10, because I've gotten these messages elsewhere in plenty of Western war films, but the particular framing of the story was unique and well-executed enough to make my brain go, "Okay, I'm watching a quality film right now." Plus, it managed to rend the cockles of my heart a little bit, which no other anime has ever been able to do (not that most of them even try).

Verbatim · December 05, 2017, 08:07:40 AM

And so the trek through the year 1995 begins.

Disclaimer: Even weebs probably won't give a fuck about any of these shows.

I rewatched Ghost in the Shell, and my opinion on it has not changed (still a 2/10). I'm also in the process of rewatching Evangelion, because in retrospect, I think it deserves it.

Armitage III: Polymatrix (Hiroyuki Ochi, 1996, AIC) This movie is a condensed version of the original four-episode OVA of the same name (sans subtitle), which I thought would be a little bit more convenient for my sake. But holy shit, do I ever regret watching it this way. At first, I thought this was going to be some kind of off-brand Ghost in the Shell—mainly because of the cyberpunk setting, and the stupid sultry female protagonist—but interestingly enough, it actually predates it (the film, obviously; not the manga), yet it still manages to be just as vapid, hilariously enough. The same tired old cyberpunk trappings that I've come to develop a massive distaste for are all at the forefront, and I'm never going to get those two hours back. What a shame. 2/10

The Diary of Anne Frank (Akinori Agoaka, 1995, Madhouse) Just read The Diary of a Young Girl, for fuck's sake. This has to be the most unnecessary adaptation of anything ever. 5/10

Elf Princess Rane (Dangun Pictures, 1995, first part) I wasn't going to put any text here, but I can't ignore the elephant in the room that this was a really weird thing for me to watch. The only reason I tried it is because it was released in close proximity to my birthday, and perhaps I thought that my birth would've torn a rift of serendipity within the anime industry, but evidently, that wasn't the case. This is the first time an anime has gotten me to think to myself, "What the fuck am I doing? I am literally wasting my time right now. I should probably stop doing this." Next anime. 1/10

El-Hazard: The Magnificent World (AIC, 1995, three episodes) Very standard fare. I realize that the harem stuff is part of the show's appeal, but it's so fucking tame by today's standards to where it all just feels kind of sterile and awkward. 4/10

Fushigi Yuugi: The Mysterious Play (Studio Perriot, 1995, three episodes) Another old shoujo that is incredibly far removed from my demographic, and I have no business watching it, so I didn't watch much. It's certainly nothing special, but I don't actually mind any of the characters or their designs, which is very rare for me to say. It's just not a very compelling story, and nothing particularly interesting happens. 5/10

Golden Boy (APPP, 1995, completed) As dumb and as borderline offensive as this stupid-ass show is, it did make me laugh out loud. Multiple times. It might just be the funniest anime I've ever seen, and as much as I ultimately dislike the show (just because it's stupid, and I refuse to enjoy stupid things), I can't take that away from it. Call it a guilty pleasure. The best part is that it's rather short, but it IS extremely raunchy, so bear that in mind if you happen to check it out. 7/10

Verbatim · December 05, 2017, 08:12:32 AM

oh, i also watched the dub for golden boy

that helped

TB · December 05, 2017, 11:41:16 AM

How much free time do you have??

Verbatim · December 05, 2017, 12:05:32 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on December 05, 2017, 11:41:16 AM

How much free time do you have??

it's not like i watch whole series; i drop shows if i'm not enjoying myself, which is most of the time

i list the number of episodes i watch in the parentheses, though it's admittedly less clear with things i've completed

golden boy only has six episodes

TB · December 05, 2017, 12:22:50 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 05, 2017, 12:05:32 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on December 05, 2017, 11:41:16 AM
How much free time do you have??
it's not like i watch whole series; i drop shows if i'm not enjoying myself, which is most of the time

i list the number of episodes i watch in the parentheses, though it's admittedly less clear with things i've completed

golden boy only has six episodes

Oh yeah I recognize you don't always watch the full thing, I think it's just the sheer amount / the completed shows that makes it feel like a lot.

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · December 05, 2017, 08:01:19 PM

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Big Boss · December 06, 2017, 05:51:02 AM

What about Great Teacher Onizuka

I remember my friend in school saying it was good

Verbatim · December 06, 2017, 11:30:08 AM

Quote from: Best Boss on December 06, 2017, 05:51:02 AM

What about Great Teacher Onizuka

I remember my friend in school saying it was good

doooooooooesn't look quite as appealing to me

i really doubt i'll ever enjoy another ecchi anime again

Ásgeirr · December 06, 2017, 11:41:31 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2017, 12:48:15 AM

Most weebs probably default to not recommending anything like Grave of the Fireflies, mostly because of how much of a downer they are.

ill have you know i prefer moody shit over KAWAII SUGOI upbeat shows to feed my moody moods

looking at my list, of the 10 shows that ive given the highest score (when i bothered to score) all are on the moodier side

MarKhan · December 06, 2017, 11:47:57 AM

Quote from: oss on December 06, 2017, 11:41:31 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2017, 12:48:15 AM
Most weebs probably default to not recommending anything like Grave of the Fireflies, mostly because of how much of a downer they are.
ill have you know i prefer moody shit over KAWAII SUGOI upbeat shows to feed my moody moods

looking at my list, of the 10 shows that ive given the highest score (when i bothered to score) all are on the moodier side

By moody you mean something with special atmosphere? Maybe something weird but not unwanted... something that makes you thinking? Anyway, your top 10?

Ásgeirr · December 06, 2017, 12:37:22 PM

Quote from: MarKhan on December 06, 2017, 11:47:57 AM

Quote from: oss on December 06, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2017, 12:48:15 AM
Most weebs probably default to not recommending anything like Grave of the Fireflies, mostly because of how much of a downer they are.
ill have you know i prefer moody shit over KAWAII SUGOI upbeat shows to feed my moody moods

looking at my list, of the 10 shows that ive given the highest score (when i bothered to score) all are on the moodier side
By moody you mean something with special atmosphere? Maybe something weird but not unwanted... something that makes you thinking? Anyway, your top 10?

Yeah you could say a special atmosphere, thats one of my favorite traits of any media. Also upon a short review its more like 5 anime not counting 3 Evangelions <.<

Kyoukai no Kanata, Eureka Seven, Ga-Rei: Zero, Elfen Lied and Metropolis. Character centric tragedy stuff lol.
I stopped scoring because i wasnt confident in them, like some of the 9's could be 10 but aiunno really.

MarKhan · December 06, 2017, 01:03:04 PM

Quote from: oss on December 06, 2017, 12:37:22 PM

Quote from: MarKhan on December 06, 2017, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: oss on December 06, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2017, 12:48:15 AM
Most weebs probably default to not recommending anything like Grave of the Fireflies, mostly because of how much of a downer they are.
ill have you know i prefer moody shit over KAWAII SUGOI upbeat shows to feed my moody moods

looking at my list, of the 10 shows that ive given the highest score (when i bothered to score) all are on the moodier side
By moody you mean something with special atmosphere? Maybe something weird but not unwanted... something that makes you thinking? Anyway, your top 10?
Yeah you could say a special atmosphere, thats one of my favorite traits of any media. Also upon a short review its more like 5 anime not counting 3 Evangelions <.<

Kyoukai no Kanata, Eureka Seven, Ga-Rei: Zero, Elfen Lied and Metropolis. Character centric tragedy stuff lol.
I stopped scoring because i wasnt confident in them, like some of the 9's could be 10 but aiunno really.

I see. I am about to watch Eureka Seven after Texhnolyze, I need time to watch them though. Have you heard about Serial Experiments Lain?

Verbatim · December 06, 2017, 01:11:31 PM

OH MY GOD GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE

this thread is for anti-weebs ONLY

Ásgeirr · December 07, 2017, 12:20:46 PM

Quote from: MarKhan on December 06, 2017, 01:03:04 PM

Quote from: oss on December 06, 2017, 12:37:22 PM
Quote from: MarKhan on December 06, 2017, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: oss on December 06, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2017, 12:48:15 AM
Most weebs probably default to not recommending anything like Grave of the Fireflies, mostly because of how much of a downer they are.
ill have you know i prefer moody shit over KAWAII SUGOI upbeat shows to feed my moody moods

looking at my list, of the 10 shows that ive given the highest score (when i bothered to score) all are on the moodier side
By moody you mean something with special atmosphere? Maybe something weird but not unwanted... something that makes you thinking? Anyway, your top 10?
Yeah you could say a special atmosphere, thats one of my favorite traits of any media. Also upon a short review its more like 5 anime not counting 3 Evangelions <.<

Kyoukai no Kanata, Eureka Seven, Ga-Rei: Zero, Elfen Lied and Metropolis. Character centric tragedy stuff lol.
I stopped scoring because i wasnt confident in them, like some of the 9's could be 10 but aiunno really.
I see. I am about to watch Eureka Seven after Texhnolyze, I need time to watch them though. Have you heard about Serial Experiments Lain?

Yeah its one of the 9's. Was completely enamored during it.

Is it just me or is there a very angry bee buzzing about hating anime?