Update on the bullshit drama with my philosophy teacher

 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
For those of you who don't know, my philosophy teacher and I got into a heated debate about whether or not the Danish cartoonist who published pictures of Muhammad (inciting riots and assassination attempts) should've been prosecuted. It included such gems as me saying "My rights don't end where another's feelings begins" and her asking "Why not?".

However, the drama comes from the fact that after the lesson she went into the faculty room and said to my other philosophy teacher: "I could've punched Ashton during that lesson", and accusing me of being unable to see things from somebody else's point of view. Bearing in mind she had ended the debate by saying "I've made up my mind and nothing will change it," I felt a bit short-changed.

It would've been fine except for this morning, however. I would've been content to leave it be there and just allow us to ignore it in the future. However, when a girl who wasn't present in the lesson went to find out what she missed the teacher said: "Go to Ashton and ask him how idiotic he was." This really did anger me, so I told the girl to go to her and ask her how much she hates free speech. The girl returned with the message that I wasn't welcome in her lessons, that I'm hated and that she deserves an apology.

Later in the day, however, I got called into the headteacher's office. She asked for my side and I gave it, conceding I may have been a bit too assertive during the debate, but voicing my concerns over the teacher's personal attacks of me and continuation of the issue this morning. The head said the actions of my teacher "disturbed her" and that she'd talk to her about it.

Essentially, I got into a heated debate, annoying my close-minded, Islamist-apologist teacher and it resulted in her making intentionally offensive comments about my character to another teacher. She made further offensive comments this morning through one of my peers and I retaliated, unleashing her righteous and thunderous fury. If she thinks I'm going to apologise without her making some concessions of her own now (I was actually planning on apologising that day), then she can go fu­ck herself.
Last Edit: October 09, 2014, 11:36:14 AM by Meta Cognition


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lol higher education


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
lol higher education
Not in university yet.

In college, the stage between high school and higher education.


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ayy lmao your name is ashton

anyway, how is someone so close-minded teaching philosophy in the first place?


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Lol. If a teacher acted like that here then they'd be fired or some other shit


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lol living in a country where you have to pay for education


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Are teacher allowed to express their own views? That's forbidden here in Sweden, since it can influence the students.


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Are teacher allowed to express their own views? That's forbidden here in Sweden, since it can influence the students.
Same here.


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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Are teacher allowed to express their own views? That's forbidden here in Sweden, since it can influence the students.
You know if Swedem weren't a socialist shit hole I might want to live there

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Not only is she stupid, she's a hypocrite.


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Are teacher allowed to express their own views? That's forbidden here in Sweden, since it can influence the students.
You know if Swedem weren't a socialist shit hole I might want to live there

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You know that the free education is because of the socialism, right?


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Are teacher allowed to express their own views? That's forbidden here in Sweden, since it can influence the students.
You know if Swedem weren't a socialist shit hole I might want to live there

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You know that the free education is because of the socialism, right?
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Lol. If a teacher acted like that here then they'd be fired or some other shit
Well, I wonder what the head of year will be doing about it then.


 
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At the start of it I was somewhat (not fully) on her side, now she's proven to not only be unprofessional at her job but also an absolute cunt.
If the head takes her side over it I would honestly take it higher.


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Lol. If a teacher acted like that here then they'd be fired or some other shit
I had a teacher that was nothing but ungrateful to me, she would even purposely try and make me fail. So my dad tried to get her fired, when she realized she could get fired she stopped being a bitch and actually started being nice to me. My grade in that class went from a D to an A.
Last Edit: October 09, 2014, 02:41:25 PM by Septy


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
You could say... you were offended. 8)


 Ask her how she feels about being hypothetically charged for offense.


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Ehh, hate speech and threats are usually considered illegal. Why the danish cartoonist may have been prosecuted may be because of slandering which comes close to jate speech for some people that could insight anger and chaos. It was i believe demonising muslims for following the religion of muhammed. Comes close to hate speech, as it was targeted.


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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Ehh, hate speech and threats are usually considered illegal. Why the danish cartoonist may have been prosecuted may be because of slandering which comes close to jate speech for some people that could insight anger and chaos. It was i believe demonising muslims for following the religion of muhammed. Comes close to hate speech, as it was targeted.
So should we be charged for criticizing Christians as well?
Last Edit: October 09, 2014, 03:42:44 PM by RustingFloor


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Sounds like she was 100% wrong and majorly forgot her place, serves her right


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Ehh, hate speech and threats are usually considered illegal. Why the danish cartoonist may have been prosecuted may be because of slandering which comes close to jate speech for some people that could insight anger and chaos. It was i believe demonising muslims for following the religion of muhammed. Comes close to hate speech, as it was targeted.
So should we be charged for criticizing Christians as well?
It is not criticizing, but if you make a cartoon that attacks makes jesus looks stupid or an evil person and that is personifying christians as idiots etc. Demonizing christians with that cartoon. Yes it is hate speech.

Same thing a joke that demonises Jews would also be considered hate speech, depending on where you are.

Free speech althpugh good, people have abused it and we have lost the right in many countries.