um.... holy shit?

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Simply amazing. Great to hear stuff like this.


ikr, the space field needs a huge ass push like this


 
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a bit more than neat lol...... am I the only one excited??

For one thing, this tech is probably quite some time away from making a debut in any usage. Scientists will rip it apart and attempt to understand it. This alone could take years. Then, once they feel that they have a better understanding of it, they'll attempt to replicate it, and control it, see how much of an output they can generate and so on. Again, years of work.

Second, this source of movement is a potential game changer, both for space faring craft and aircraft propulsion systems. Our current system doesn't like game changers, especially ones that are cheap, and can potentially provide the world with a relatively easy to manufacture propulsion system that could be implemented in any manner of craft.

So, assuming it gets past the scientists, it's going to get run into the ground by corporations and governments and buried, OR, kept exclusively to one specific branch while everybody else doesn't get access.

I say neat because while it's an interesting device, it'll likely be one that we won't be seeing for quite some time.



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The real question is, when will we see this being used?


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The real question is, when will we see this being used?



i have no idea....


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Simply amazing. Great to hear stuff like this.


ikr, the space field needs a huge ass push like this
Fuelless transportation can be applied to much more than just space. Although that really depends on how practical it is to put an engine like this in a car or a plane. Magnetohydrodynamics really isn't my field of expertise, lol.

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a bit more than neat lol...... am I the only one excited??
Our current system doesn't like game changers, especially ones that are cheap, and can potentially provide the world with a relatively easy to manufacture propulsion system that could be implemented in any manner of craft.

So, assuming it gets past the scientists, it's going to get run into the ground by corporations and governments and buried, OR, kept exclusively to one specific branch while everybody else doesn't get access.
What are you on about?

Our industry, as it stands today, aren't fans of game changers. They're comfortable currently as is. This is a thrust engine. That means it can be applied to to more than just satellites. Missiles, aircraft, maybe even ground transport. And it's cheap, light weight, and uses NO fuel other than electricity.

Come on, don't tell me you don't see why a big multinational company would want something like that buried or restricted. The fuel business is incredibly lucrative, and if that engine was ever streamlined, it could put a big damn dent in their profits or even outright kill them. If the engine ever gets off the ground, chances are one of the big corporations out there will purchase it. But they won't use it right away. They'll keep it in the backroom until they need it. So long as there is fuel to be sold, they'll sell it.

The number one rule any corporation in a capitalist system lives by is money. Make money, make more money, and spend as little as possible. They won't introduce the engine because it's practical or benificial. They'll introduce it when their current big well dries up, and it's time to move on.


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got this from neoGAF so I might as well copy paste most of it

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/nasa-revea...e-t-1614549987


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Until yesterday, everyone in the international community was laughing at this engine and its inventor, Roger Sawyer. It's called the EmDrive and everyone said it was impossible because it went against the laws of physics. But the fact is that the quantum vacuum plasma thruster works in the lab and scientists can't explain why.
Someone start making plans for colonization of the moon, now.

Basically it gives us the ability to have fuel-less engines in space, we would no longer be limited by fuel limitations in terms of space travel. We could keep them on and keep going faster and faster, a trip to mars could take a week instead of 6 months.

NASA doesnt know why it works, its troll science, but they were able to replicate it like the Chinese did. Its reality but we dont know why.


a new age is cumming, more links 4 proof

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052

http://emdrive.com/

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...le-space-drive


 
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Our industry, as it stands today, aren't fans of game changers. They're comfortable currently as is. This is a thrust engine. That means it can be applied to to more than just satellites. Missiles, aircraft, maybe even ground transport. And it's cheap, light weight, and uses NO fuel other than electricity.

Come on, don't tell me you don't see why a big multinational company would want something like that buried or restricted. The fuel business is incredibly lucrative, and if that engine was ever streamlined, it could put a big damn dent in their profits or even outright kill them. If the engine ever gets off the ground, chances are one of the big corporations out there will purchase it. But they won't use it right away. They'll keep it in the backroom until they need it. So long as there is fuel to be sold, they'll sell it.

The number one rule any corporation in a capitalist system lives by is money. Make money, make more money, and spend as little as possible. They won't introduce the engine because it's practical or benificial. They'll introduce it when their current big well dries up, and it's time to move on.
Cheap and lightweight? According to whom? Powerful magnetic fields and superheated plasma don't sound cheap to me.

And no, I don't think corporations would try and bury it. The design is only owned by governments and educational institutions, no one has the ability to hide it. I'm sure there will be corporations who will pick up on the technology, and there will be corporations who cannot adapt who will lose profits. If it is economical, it's not going to be buried.

From the article itself.  "Shawyer's engine is extremely light and simple." They wouldn't drop that line in the article for no reason. Simplicity implies that by current standards, the concept of the engine is simple to understand, and therefore simple to reproduce. Hell, you can create plasma in your microwave by microwaving fire. Don't do that though.

And don't give me that it's economical stuff either. The fuel economy for a lot of vehicles today is rather poor. Big companies don't care if it's economical, they care about how much money they can generate. And poor economical vehicles is one avenue of income. And it's like a big board game to them. If and when that engine gets off the ground, it won't be released until everybody is good and ready. It won't ever be buried completely, but it'll be kept in a waiting line until they can make the maximum amount of profit while losing as little as possible.


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This is amazing news if it's legit. I'll have to read up on this later.

It's legit. Though the results from NASA (see: credible results) make it only useful for small unmanned probes.


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Please tell me if this is real or fake because I'm about to get excited like little school girl.


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Please tell me if this is real or fake because I'm about to get excited like little school girl.


real go to the links, one is directly from nasa


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Please tell me if this is real or fake because I'm about to get excited like little school girl.


real go to the links, one is directly from nasa
That's not Nasa's website though.


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That's not Nasa's website though.


true true, scroll to the bottom of the page and you'll see all the official nasa shet on the left hand side


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That's not Nasa's website though.


true true, scroll to the bottom of the page and you'll see all the official nasa shet on the left hand side
Am taking this whole thing with a grain of rice.


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true true, scroll to the bottom of the page and you'll see all the official nasa shet on the left hand side
Am taking this whole thing with a grain of rice.




it seems official enough for me, although i can't blame ya


 
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it seems official enough for me, although i can't blame ya
Just seems too good to be true, even if this is real we probably won't see it implemented for like 20 years :/


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it seems official enough for me, although i can't blame ya
Just seems too good to be true, even if this is real we probably won't see it implemented for like 20 years :/



that's not too long lol hopefully you're right


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It's happening...


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Give or take, as long as it's pretty, you can bet your ass somebody's gun git fucked silly.
I ain't touching this lol.


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I ain't touching this lol.

I could see the appeal


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Cool but old news

there's a few other alternatives too but fuel-less or self reliant engines are possible just no one cares enough.