Have you ever taken the moment to analyze the difference between an untreated schizoids ability to function in society compared to a "untreated" (transitioned) trans person?I mean I'd hope for someone as pathologically obsessed as you, that thought has crossed your mind.
Unless of course your definition of "ability to function in society" includes procreative sex, in which case you're entering full retard.
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 17, 2016, 10:03:13 PMQuote from: Tsirist on March 17, 2016, 05:35:18 PMQuote from: Precious Tritium on March 17, 2016, 05:29:39 PMQuote from: Tsirist on March 17, 2016, 01:51:14 PMGender dysphoria is a mental illness. Transgenderism is a treatment. Not that hard to distinguish the two. If you have a problem with transgenderism, at least call it malpractice or something that would make sense.Ok sure Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that we are normalizingWhat do you mean by normalizing?I mean that people now see it as normal and not a fucking mental diseaseUh pretty sure everyone sees gender dysphoria as a mental illness. What's the issue?
Quote from: Tsirist on March 17, 2016, 05:35:18 PMQuote from: Precious Tritium on March 17, 2016, 05:29:39 PMQuote from: Tsirist on March 17, 2016, 01:51:14 PMGender dysphoria is a mental illness. Transgenderism is a treatment. Not that hard to distinguish the two. If you have a problem with transgenderism, at least call it malpractice or something that would make sense.Ok sure Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that we are normalizingWhat do you mean by normalizing?I mean that people now see it as normal and not a fucking mental disease
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 17, 2016, 05:29:39 PMQuote from: Tsirist on March 17, 2016, 01:51:14 PMGender dysphoria is a mental illness. Transgenderism is a treatment. Not that hard to distinguish the two. If you have a problem with transgenderism, at least call it malpractice or something that would make sense.Ok sure Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that we are normalizingWhat do you mean by normalizing?
Quote from: Tsirist on March 17, 2016, 01:51:14 PMGender dysphoria is a mental illness. Transgenderism is a treatment. Not that hard to distinguish the two. If you have a problem with transgenderism, at least call it malpractice or something that would make sense.Ok sure Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that we are normalizing
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Transgenderism is a treatment. Not that hard to distinguish the two. If you have a problem with transgenderism, at least call it malpractice or something that would make sense.
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 17, 2016, 10:06:34 PMWe should look into viable treatments and destroy this thought that it is something that is completely normalNo one is saying it's normal. It's obviously a malfunction that happens at birth. Ignoring the issue until this magical cure that will never exist comes along and makes everything right is going to do any good. It's not like accepting trans people somehow encourages it. And transphobia is obviously a big problem that they face which just makes their life harder. There's no harm that can rationally be attributed to encouraging an accepting society.
We should look into viable treatments and destroy this thought that it is something that is completely normal
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 17, 2016, 10:46:41 PMBut for the millionth time, you cannot bring your subjective truth to society and force them to accept youIt is immoral and hurts social healthYou and everyone with your sick mentality are all going to die and be grandfathered out of existence within the next century.How does that make you feel?
But for the millionth time, you cannot bring your subjective truth to society and force them to accept youIt is immoral and hurts social health
It's pretty scary to be honestScary that closed minded bigots like you who think they're tolerant will be the ones leading society soon
Except they don't You will be skinned alive if you dare to say that transgender people aren't normal
Does anyone have any evidence of there being a suppression of research into dysphoria-nullifying drugs? i.e. something that would "make the feelings go away" in contrast with transgenderism. i still don't understand why people say "we should be researching this and clearly something would be found" if they're not experts in the research area and if they haven't already checked to see what has been doneironically, i remember reading about a schizophrenic and gender dysphoric patient whose dysphoria was dispelled by his schizophrenia drugs but i can't find the research article anymore. . . .
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 18, 2016, 10:39:44 PMIt's pretty scary to be honestScary that closed minded bigots like you who think they're tolerant will be the ones leading society soonPut that mirror down.
Good comeback
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 18, 2016, 10:27:55 PMExcept they don't You will be skinned alive if you dare to say that transgender people aren't normalIf you're getting skinned alive it's because you're saying something else retarded. No shit, most people aren't transgender. It's not normal to be gender dysphoric or to have to undergo transgenderism (transgenderism is normal for gender dysphoric people but you get the point).What's important is that in social contexts they should be TREATED like normal people.
But try telling a trans person that they have a mental disease Especially with a crowd around See what happens then
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 18, 2016, 10:43:58 PMGood comebackI'm a closed-minded bigot because I have an open mind and I'm overtly un-bigoted towards people with gender dysphoria.Great logic.
That's the definition of closed mindedness
It doesn't matter that the cause is "socially progressive"It's still closed mindedness in the highest order
That's just socially . . . stupid, in my opinion. You wouldn't go up to a schizophrenic person, a bipolar person, or a depressed person and say "you have a mental disease!" and point at them or something. Why would you call a trans person out?
Try telling a fat person that they're fat in public--especially on a college campus. See what happens.It's generally rude to point out and state the obvious about people, you socially autistic cunt.Of COURSE you'd get fucking shit on.
No, it isn't. The definition of closed-minded is unable to consider different ideas or opinions.I HAVE considered your position, concluded it was genuinely one of the most fucktarded pieces of shit I've ever laid my eyes on, and spat it the fuck out.
"Maybe if I slap 'in the highest order' in this post, it'll make me sound more intelligent and right"
If you have a discussion about it and call it a mental illness, you will be viciously attacked
Not only that but you have attacked the other side and labeled them things they are notWhich is exactly what you keep saying people shouldn't do to transgenders
aight i've got a couple transgender people here that i know who i believe will put your fears to rest and acknowledge that gender dypshoria is a mental illness (even if transgenderism isn't). maybe we can see about getting their input. any other trans individuals want to comment? would be neat
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 18, 2016, 10:58:19 PMIf you have a discussion about it and call it a mental illness, you will be viciously attacked No, you won't.You'll only get viciously attacked, like you are now, when you start saying cunt-tarded shit like, "DON'T IMPOSE YOUR BELIEFS ON MUH SUHSYUHTEE!!!"or "WE NEED TO FIND A REAL CURE!!!!"That's when people will start lashing out. Because you're being a fucking retard.
Right because wanting to prevent social harm is totally crossing the line
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 18, 2016, 11:01:38 PMNot only that but you have attacked the other side and labeled them things they are notWhich is exactly what you keep saying people shouldn't do to transgenders No idea what the fuck you're even saying now.
Yet that's exactly what you do to people who disagree with them
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 18, 2016, 11:09:18 PMRight because wanting to prevent social harm is totally crossing the lineThere is no "social harm," whatever the fuck that even is.
Quote from: Precious Tritium on March 18, 2016, 11:11:59 PMYet that's exactly what you do to people who disagree with themBecause you deserve it, for being an idiot.Trans people don't, because they haven't done anything wrong by being trans.
You are teaching kids that mental illness is acceptable and there is nothing wrong with it
What is your basis for accepting transgenders?
Oh for fuck's sake. And you wonder why people get so fucking pissed.NO ONE IS SAYING MENTAL ILLNESS IS "ACCEPTABLE"THE TREATMENT IS ACCEPTABLEBECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER TREATMENT
the best cure for gender dysphoria is acceptance, and allowing people to live their lives however they wish
Me being a good person who is considerate of other people's feelings, desires, and personal comforts.If someone feels that they are a woman, who am I to say that they're not?If someone WANTS to be a woman, who am I to say that they shouldn't?
If you don't accept them, you're not better than a racist or a sexist, and you should be killed.