This video is fucking immaculate.

 
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when you die, your whole world is gone. Not even darkness, because darkness is something

therefore, logically, the most important thing for you should be you

not that hard of a train of thought to follow
Apparently, it is, because I still don't get it. Yes, we die, and there's nothing after death, "not even darkness". No duh. Why does that necessitate that we all must live only for ourselves? To me, that only makes me want to live for others even more. The fact that we die makes me want to make life better for everyone. Because we're all "in it together".
It doesn't necessitate anything, it's just the most reasonable way to live. If your existence is all there is, why would you not want to stretch that out as long as possible? Why would you throw it away on someone else? I guess you're just a better person than I am. and I'm not even being glib

there's cowardice and heroism, but heroes don't get to live in the better world they created. so what's the point of being one?


 
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Man, I am hungry for a hamburger.
I've been hungry for one for twelve months. Bow to me.


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Man, I am hungry for a hamburger.
I've been hungry for one for twelve months. Bow to me.
I'm gonna fuck one hard and yell out your name.


 
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it's just the most reasonable way to live.
Why?
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If your existence is all there is
It's not. You can't pretend as though I've agreed to this premise, because I haven't.

It's not something you're gonna be able to prove, either, so I mean... I don't even know why I'm bothering.
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why would you not want to stretch that out as long as possible? Why would you throw it away on someone else?
¿¿¿Por qué no follando ambos???
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I guess you're just a better person than I am. and I'm not even being glib
Well, thank you? But like. This is so bizarre. Why wouldn't you, then, want to be as cool as I am?...
Because it's not as fun? You're just gonna take the easy way? The convenient-for-you way?
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there's cowardice and heroism, but heroes don't get to live in the better world they created. so what's the point of being one?
For me, the answer is quite plain... it's because I'm aware of the fact that there's other people on the planet, and they deserve to have a beautiful comfortable world to live in. Am I a paragon of virtue? Not exactly. If I was, I wouldn't be so angry. I wouldn't insult people so often. That's one of my character flaws. But you see, that's me having humility right there.

If I was like you, I couldn't rationally have any humility.

You're free to believe what you want, but frankly, I find it a little disgusting, and little bit sad. Because you're a reasonably intelligent person who could probably do a lot to help humanity. But apparently that's just too much of a drag.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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If your existence is all there is
It's not. You can't pretend as though I've agreed to this premise, because I haven't.
All there is to you. Obviously the world goes on when you die, no need to facetiously get all hung up on semantics.

¿¿¿Por qué no follando ambos???
This is referring to your firetruck scenario, or any other "heroic" sacrifice.

Well, thank you? But like. This is so bizarre. Why wouldn't you, then, want to be as cool as I am?...
Because it's not as fun? You're just gonna take the easy way? The convenient-for-you way?
No one said anything about being cooler.

For me, the answer is quite plain... it's because I'm aware of the fact that there's other people on the planet, and they deserve to have a beautiful comfortable world to live in.
No one is born "deserving" anything. All you deserve is what you personally achieve or obtain.

Am I a paragon of virtue? Not exactly. If I was, I wouldn't be so angry. I wouldn't insult people so often. That's one of my character flaws. But you see, that's me having humility right there.

If I was like you, I couldn't rationally have any humility.

You're free to believe what you want, but frankly, I find it a little disgusting, and little bit sad. Because you're a reasonably intelligent person who could probably do a lot to help humanity. But apparently that's just too much of a drag.
It's a major drag.


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I would prefer to be looked as evil to the eyes of all vegans than to bow down to a philosophy that I do not agree nor plan in agreeing with ever.

That goes for all religions and philosophies that I find to be not worth my time, energy or I find out to be dumb.


 
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Okay, okay... I responded to all of your points, but then I deleted it, because I realized that I'm just trying to ask you one question. It's the only question I really need to ask you.

Do you honestly believe that people should think like you do?

Where do you think the human race would be if everyone was a nihilist?


 
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Okay, okay... I responded to all of your points, but then I deleted it, because I realized that I'm just trying to ask you one question. It's the only question I really need to ask you.

Do you honestly believe that people should think like you do?

Where do you think the human race would be if everyone was a nihilist?
If everyone thought like me society would probably collapse.


 
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I would prefer to be looked as evil to the eyes of all vegans than to bow down to a philosophy that I do not agree nor plan in agreeing with ever.
You don't... "plan on" agreeing with it? What does that mean? That even if it was shown to be the correct philosophy, you still wouldn't concede? Again, I'm just sort of at a loss for what to say to that...


 
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If everyone thought like me society would probably collapse.
Okay. So... why come into my thread, then, and be an advocate for your philosophy that you know to be detrimental? Why preach to people that they should focus on "the self" when you don't even seem very confident in that idea yourself?


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I would prefer to be looked as evil to the eyes of all vegans than to bow down to a philosophy that I do not agree nor plan in agreeing with ever.
You don't... "plan on" agreeing with it? What does that mean? That even if it was shown to be the correct philosophy, you still wouldn't concede? Again, I'm just sort of at a loss for what to say to that...
Mostly talking about the video Mr.Repzion responded to in his video which I was just reminded of after seeing this one.


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Glad I'm going to enjoy the hamburger I'm having for dinner tonight.  Might add some bacon on it too.


 
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If everyone thought like me society would probably collapse.
Okay. So... why come into my thread, then, and be an advocate for your philosophy that you know to be detrimental? Why preach to people that they should focus on "the self" when you don't even seem very confident in that idea yourself?
It's not detrimental to the individual.


 
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Glad I'm going to enjoy the hamburger I'm having for dinner tonight.  Might add some bacon on it too.
Good. I'm glad their suffering won't be going to waste.

It's not detrimental to the individual.
You already know how I'm gonna respond to that.


 
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Mostly talking about the video Mr.Repzion responded to in his video which I was just reminded of after seeing this one.
Okay, but you did say all vegans...


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Mostly talking about the video Mr.Repzion responded to in his video which I was just reminded of after seeing this one.
Okay, but you did say all vegans...
I might've worded that wrong, what I meant is zealous vegans. My bad.


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I will try being vegan for a short time someday in the future


 
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I will try being vegan for a short time someday in the future
I mean, yeah, a lot of vegans I know say they've tried it just as a fun experiment at first. To see if they could do it. Most of them found out pretty fast that it's a lot easier than most people think.

It's hard for me, because I'm an extremely picky eater, but yeah. Not to mention, some of the most fit people I know are vegans. And I know you're all about fitness.


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This guy was a champion bodybuilder and he was a vegetarian. It's very healthy for you





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Yeah, a lot of those guys (Repzion, AmazingAtheist, Thunderfoot) irritate me. They're more concerned with jumping on the latest bandwagon instead of discussing issues that are actually worth discussing. Okay, so Anita Sarkeesian made a new video on sexism in Flappy bird. Big fucking deal.

Interestingly Repzion was challenged to a debate by VeganAtheist a few months back on his highly irrational views and declined. But of course the moment he spots an easy target like Freelee's video he'll use her as a platform on which to contrast his own views and make them seem more reasonable than they actually are. Probably gets him a few subscribers to boot.

I haven't watched inmendham for a long time because his unflinching pessimism was starting to get me down. And his videos are about 45 minutes long. But I'll give this one a go.
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Man, I am hungry for a hamburger.
These threads always make me hungry for ribs tbh.


 
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Man, I am hungry for a hamburger.
These threads always make me hungry for ribs tbh.
my favorite thing about you is that you always like to "call me out" on my sanctimony, when you're literally one of the most sanctimonious people here


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Man, I am hungry for a hamburger.
These threads always make me hungry for ribs tbh.
my favorite thing about you is that you always like to "call me out" on my sanctimony, when you're literally one of the most sanctimonious people here
Like literally?


 
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Literally


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Literally
You might need to use bigger font I forgot my glasses.


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It's hard for me, because I'm an extremely picky eater, but yeah.
How strict of a vegan are you? Do you avoid white sugar and foods with suspicious numbers in the ingredients?


 
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It's hard for me, because I'm an extremely picky eater, but yeah.
How strict of a vegan are you? Do you avoid white sugar and foods with suspicious numbers in the ingredients?
Is white sugar not vegan? I can't say I actively avoid it, but I don't really know how much I consume, if any at all. I'm also not sure what you mean by suspicious numbers.

I'm strict in the sense that it extends beyond my diet. I also wear vegan clothes and have vegan furniture.


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Is white sugar not vegan? I can't say I actively avoid it, but I don't really know how much I consume, if any at all. I'm also not sure what you mean by suspicious numbers.

I'm strict in the sense that it extends beyond my diet. I also wear vegan clothes and have vegan furniture.
It's commonly refined with bone char. I used to avoid it, but then I realized it's just an economically viable byproduct and animals aren't being farmed for it directly. (I think). I use raw sugar for coffee but I don't bend over backwards to avoid foods that just have "sugar" in the ingredients

By numbers I mean preservative 402e and stuff like that. Again there are some vegans who are very strict about this stuff but I don't see any practical benefit for animals if the main culprits are meat, dairy and eggs. The moment you're getting a magnifying glass out in the supermarket, you've gone too far imo.

Doesn't really paint veganism as an appealing and/or maintainable lifestyle either.


 
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Yeah, exactly.


 
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so, did you watch it?

fucking beautiful, right?