This thread has changed my life. I have seen the evils of my ways. Brb, burning all of my family's firearms. Thanks, Nick, for being such a swell guy and a solid debater.
Second time I went to the US, I almost missed out on the opportunity to get Taco Bell for the first time because just prior to my visit, an everyday law-abiding and licensed gun owner shot someone in their drive-through because the guy behind him honked and an argument started. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
You know what I'm going to do? For the sake of fucking lols. I'm going to make you a four legged shotgun trashcan. Give me a day or so. Actually, give me this evening. I'll work something out.
Quote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:46:03 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:41:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.Cops don't have a choice but to kill because they follow your logic exactly - no time to think because what if that guy is armed too? Better shoot before he does.That's pure bullshit. Every situation is different and good, well trained cops deal with situations appropriately. "My" logic is the only logic you should have when holding a firearm. It's not a toy. You don't brandish it or yell while aiming it. You give somebody a verbal warning at most and if they charge you empty that mag into his chest. Criminals aren't out here playing games. They will end your shit and won't think twice about doing so.What about cops killing children on playgrounds because they were playing with toy guns? Why does that shit not happen in Canada?
Quote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:41:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.Cops don't have a choice but to kill because they follow your logic exactly - no time to think because what if that guy is armed too? Better shoot before he does.That's pure bullshit. Every situation is different and good, well trained cops deal with situations appropriately. "My" logic is the only logic you should have when holding a firearm. It's not a toy. You don't brandish it or yell while aiming it. You give somebody a verbal warning at most and if they charge you empty that mag into his chest. Criminals aren't out here playing games. They will end your shit and won't think twice about doing so.
Quote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.Cops don't have a choice but to kill because they follow your logic exactly - no time to think because what if that guy is armed too? Better shoot before he does.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.
Quote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.
Because you know, raising your voice
or shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attention
Pointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most people
- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.
shooting in the air
Quote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:46:03 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:41:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.Cops don't have a choice but to kill because they follow your logic exactly - no time to think because what if that guy is armed too? Better shoot before he does.That's pure bullshit. Every situation is different and good, well trained cops deal with situations appropriately. "My" logic is the only logic you should have when holding a firearm. It's not a toy. You don't brandish it or yell while aiming it. You give somebody a verbal warning at most and if they charge you empty that mag into his chest. Criminals aren't out here playing games. They will end your shit and won't think twice about doing so.What about cops killing children on playgrounds because they were playing with toy guns? Why does that shit not happen in Canada?Did you even see the photo of the toy gun? It had no orange safety tip to identify it as a fake weapon, it looked real. Either you're really retarded or being a really good troll, or both LOL
Quote from: FatherlyNick on May 04, 2015, 10:33:50 AMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 04, 2015, 09:09:29 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:46:03 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:41:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.Cops don't have a choice but to kill because they follow your logic exactly - no time to think because what if that guy is armed too? Better shoot before he does.That's pure bullshit. Every situation is different and good, well trained cops deal with situations appropriately. "My" logic is the only logic you should have when holding a firearm. It's not a toy. You don't brandish it or yell while aiming it. You give somebody a verbal warning at most and if they charge you empty that mag into his chest. Criminals aren't out here playing games. They will end your shit and won't think twice about doing so.What about cops killing children on playgrounds because they were playing with toy guns? Why does that shit not happen in Canada?Did you even see the photo of the toy gun? It had no orange safety tip to identify it as a fake weapon, it looked real. Either you're really retarded or being a really good troll, or both LOLMy point is, he got killed becausea) everyone is fucking armed so what are the chances of a gun being a toy gun (in US)Don't aim you guns at people then. I don't think you understand how this works. Somebody puts a call into the police saying there's an armed person, the police arrive ready to deal with that threat. Hindsight is 20/20. Although I do think the way the cops handled that was disgusting. It was more a murder than anything else. Quoteb) what would happen if this was all in Ireland?Who the fuck cares?QuoteThe officers would probably not be as paranoid that the kid is packing heatSo you hate on America but you'll use our slang huh? LOL Shut the fuck up. Quote(what are the odds of a kid having a real gun in Ireland?)Pretty high, actually. High enough for the police to think its a real gun seeing how they were told there's an armed threat. Quotethe officer would also likely tell the kid to drop the weapon and get on the ground.Just like most American cops do. Quotebut what can the US cop do?The same thing if he wasn't a racist murderer. QuoteShoot or be shot because the government was smart enough to give out guns like flu vaccines? Of course he shot.The government doesn't hand guns out. I don't what type of propaganda they show in Ireland, but you need to buy a gun. There's no excuse for the cop to shoot that kid first thing. To park right next to him and hop out then blow him away like that as if it was a gang killing.
Quote from: ////\\\\ on May 04, 2015, 09:09:29 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:46:03 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:41:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.Cops don't have a choice but to kill because they follow your logic exactly - no time to think because what if that guy is armed too? Better shoot before he does.That's pure bullshit. Every situation is different and good, well trained cops deal with situations appropriately. "My" logic is the only logic you should have when holding a firearm. It's not a toy. You don't brandish it or yell while aiming it. You give somebody a verbal warning at most and if they charge you empty that mag into his chest. Criminals aren't out here playing games. They will end your shit and won't think twice about doing so.What about cops killing children on playgrounds because they were playing with toy guns? Why does that shit not happen in Canada?Did you even see the photo of the toy gun? It had no orange safety tip to identify it as a fake weapon, it looked real. Either you're really retarded or being a really good troll, or both LOLMy point is, he got killed becausea) everyone is fucking armed so what are the chances of a gun being a toy gun (in US)
b) what would happen if this was all in Ireland?
The officers would probably not be as paranoid that the kid is packing heat
(what are the odds of a kid having a real gun in Ireland?)
the officer would also likely tell the kid to drop the weapon and get on the ground.
but what can the US cop do?
Shoot or be shot because the government was smart enough to give out guns like flu vaccines? Of course he shot.
Quote from: challengerX on May 04, 2015, 10:43:55 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 04, 2015, 10:33:50 AMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 04, 2015, 09:09:29 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:46:03 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:41:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.Cops don't have a choice but to kill because they follow your logic exactly - no time to think because what if that guy is armed too? Better shoot before he does.That's pure bullshit. Every situation is different and good, well trained cops deal with situations appropriately. "My" logic is the only logic you should have when holding a firearm. It's not a toy. You don't brandish it or yell while aiming it. You give somebody a verbal warning at most and if they charge you empty that mag into his chest. Criminals aren't out here playing games. They will end your shit and won't think twice about doing so.What about cops killing children on playgrounds because they were playing with toy guns? Why does that shit not happen in Canada?Did you even see the photo of the toy gun? It had no orange safety tip to identify it as a fake weapon, it looked real. Either you're really retarded or being a really good troll, or both LOLMy point is, he got killed becausea) everyone is fucking armed so what are the chances of a gun being a toy gun (in US)Don't aim you guns at people then. I don't think you understand how this works. Somebody puts a call into the police saying there's an armed person, the police arrive ready to deal with that threat. Hindsight is 20/20. Although I do think the way the cops handled that was disgusting. It was more a murder than anything else. Quoteb) what would happen if this was all in Ireland?Who the fuck cares?QuoteThe officers would probably not be as paranoid that the kid is packing heatSo you hate on America but you'll use our slang huh? LOL Shut the fuck up. Quote(what are the odds of a kid having a real gun in Ireland?)Pretty high, actually. High enough for the police to think its a real gun seeing how they were told there's an armed threat. Quotethe officer would also likely tell the kid to drop the weapon and get on the ground.Just like most American cops do. Quotebut what can the US cop do?The same thing if he wasn't a racist murderer. QuoteShoot or be shot because the government was smart enough to give out guns like flu vaccines? Of course he shot.The government doesn't hand guns out. I don't what type of propaganda they show in Ireland, but you need to buy a gun. There's no excuse for the cop to shoot that kid first thing. To park right next to him and hop out then blow him away like that as if it was a gang killing.I don't hate America. I have friends from Argentina and Brazil, they are very good people.The incident I'm talking about is a little child getting killed while he was playing with a toy gun on a playground. Yes the gun did not have a safety orange tip - the cop did not hesitate and blew the kids brains out.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on May 04, 2015, 11:20:25 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 04, 2015, 10:43:55 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 04, 2015, 10:33:50 AMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 04, 2015, 09:09:29 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:46:03 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:41:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.Cops don't have a choice but to kill because they follow your logic exactly - no time to think because what if that guy is armed too? Better shoot before he does.That's pure bullshit. Every situation is different and good, well trained cops deal with situations appropriately. "My" logic is the only logic you should have when holding a firearm. It's not a toy. You don't brandish it or yell while aiming it. You give somebody a verbal warning at most and if they charge you empty that mag into his chest. Criminals aren't out here playing games. They will end your shit and won't think twice about doing so.What about cops killing children on playgrounds because they were playing with toy guns? Why does that shit not happen in Canada?Did you even see the photo of the toy gun? It had no orange safety tip to identify it as a fake weapon, it looked real. Either you're really retarded or being a really good troll, or both LOLMy point is, he got killed becausea) everyone is fucking armed so what are the chances of a gun being a toy gun (in US)Don't aim you guns at people then. I don't think you understand how this works. Somebody puts a call into the police saying there's an armed person, the police arrive ready to deal with that threat. Hindsight is 20/20. Although I do think the way the cops handled that was disgusting. It was more a murder than anything else. Quoteb) what would happen if this was all in Ireland?Who the fuck cares?QuoteThe officers would probably not be as paranoid that the kid is packing heatSo you hate on America but you'll use our slang huh? LOL Shut the fuck up. Quote(what are the odds of a kid having a real gun in Ireland?)Pretty high, actually. High enough for the police to think its a real gun seeing how they were told there's an armed threat. Quotethe officer would also likely tell the kid to drop the weapon and get on the ground.Just like most American cops do. Quotebut what can the US cop do?The same thing if he wasn't a racist murderer. QuoteShoot or be shot because the government was smart enough to give out guns like flu vaccines? Of course he shot.The government doesn't hand guns out. I don't what type of propaganda they show in Ireland, but you need to buy a gun. There's no excuse for the cop to shoot that kid first thing. To park right next to him and hop out then blow him away like that as if it was a gang killing.I don't hate America. I have friends from Argentina and Brazil, they are very good people.The incident I'm talking about is a little child getting killed while he was playing with a toy gun on a playground. Yes the gun did not have a safety orange tip - the cop did not hesitate and blew the kids brains out. Nice misinformation, the officer didn't "blow the kid's brains out", he fired a single shot into his stomach. Do you always twist information this badly to fit into your shitty narrative of how you think things should be?
Quote from: ////\\\\ on May 04, 2015, 11:31:28 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 04, 2015, 11:20:25 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 04, 2015, 10:43:55 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 04, 2015, 10:33:50 AMQuote from: ////\\\\ on May 04, 2015, 09:09:29 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:46:03 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:41:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:34:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on May 03, 2015, 07:26:41 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on May 03, 2015, 07:22:24 PMBecause you know, raising your voiceBecause raising your voice will save somebody. Quoteor shooting in the air is not enough to get someone's attentionAnd potentially killing somebody a mile away as well as giving the attacker time to draw and shoot you if they're armed. QuotePointing a gun at someone would be enough to intimidate most peopleThe guy rushed him as he pointed his gun. Quote- no, you kill a man because who gives a shit - you gotta a gun so you go on a human safari.There's this thing called "self defense". I know you Eurofags think saying shit like "just run away" isn't laughably pathetic and you consider it a viable and good option, so I'll just wait for the inevitable pacifist bullshit reply about how the criminal's life is worth more than a woman who might be a mother and is being attacked for absolutely no reason.Enjoy the freedom of being paranoid around cops."I have no rebuttal, so I'll just talk about how corrupt and power hungry the cops are and chalk it up to gun ownership"Fuck outta here trash.Cops don't have a choice but to kill because they follow your logic exactly - no time to think because what if that guy is armed too? Better shoot before he does.That's pure bullshit. Every situation is different and good, well trained cops deal with situations appropriately. "My" logic is the only logic you should have when holding a firearm. It's not a toy. You don't brandish it or yell while aiming it. You give somebody a verbal warning at most and if they charge you empty that mag into his chest. Criminals aren't out here playing games. They will end your shit and won't think twice about doing so.What about cops killing children on playgrounds because they were playing with toy guns? Why does that shit not happen in Canada?Did you even see the photo of the toy gun? It had no orange safety tip to identify it as a fake weapon, it looked real. Either you're really retarded or being a really good troll, or both LOLMy point is, he got killed becausea) everyone is fucking armed so what are the chances of a gun being a toy gun (in US)Don't aim you guns at people then. I don't think you understand how this works. Somebody puts a call into the police saying there's an armed person, the police arrive ready to deal with that threat. Hindsight is 20/20. Although I do think the way the cops handled that was disgusting. It was more a murder than anything else. Quoteb) what would happen if this was all in Ireland?Who the fuck cares?QuoteThe officers would probably not be as paranoid that the kid is packing heatSo you hate on America but you'll use our slang huh? LOL Shut the fuck up. Quote(what are the odds of a kid having a real gun in Ireland?)Pretty high, actually. High enough for the police to think its a real gun seeing how they were told there's an armed threat. Quotethe officer would also likely tell the kid to drop the weapon and get on the ground.Just like most American cops do. Quotebut what can the US cop do?The same thing if he wasn't a racist murderer. QuoteShoot or be shot because the government was smart enough to give out guns like flu vaccines? Of course he shot.The government doesn't hand guns out. I don't what type of propaganda they show in Ireland, but you need to buy a gun. There's no excuse for the cop to shoot that kid first thing. To park right next to him and hop out then blow him away like that as if it was a gang killing.I don't hate America. I have friends from Argentina and Brazil, they are very good people.The incident I'm talking about is a little child getting killed while he was playing with a toy gun on a playground. Yes the gun did not have a safety orange tip - the cop did not hesitate and blew the kids brains out. Nice misinformation, the officer didn't "blow the kid's brains out", he fired a single shot into his stomach. Do you always twist information this badly to fit into your shitty narrative of how you think things should be?I wouldn't be Russian if I tried making the US look good.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on May 04, 2015, 11:20:25 AMWhy are people surprised about cops using lethal force in USA? Everyone is potentially as lethal as a law enforcement officer and they (cops) won't take any chances. If they feel you're a threat - your ass will be pumped full of lead. Same logic applies to citizens with guns, you don't want to go South. The only way this can be resolved is to give cops the ability to call in napalm air strikes. Respect through fear is best respect.What in the fuck are you even talking about. Police officers who shoot first and ask last should be fired and imprisoned. QuoteMy question is:If you own a gun, your life expectancy goes up.No it doesn't. Life expectancy is based more on where you live and what you do. QuoteBut does it still go up if everyone owns a gun?Seeing how not everybody owns a gun, this question is retarded. QuoteUSA is the experimental group, Europe is the control group.Enjoy your knives.
Why are people surprised about cops using lethal force in USA? Everyone is potentially as lethal as a law enforcement officer and they (cops) won't take any chances. If they feel you're a threat - your ass will be pumped full of lead. Same logic applies to citizens with guns, you don't want to go South. The only way this can be resolved is to give cops the ability to call in napalm air strikes. Respect through fear is best respect.
My question is:If you own a gun, your life expectancy goes up.
But does it still go up if everyone owns a gun?
USA is the experimental group, Europe is the control group.
I find these arguments amusing. So much rage that often times doesn't even make any sense.
Quote from: Chakas on May 04, 2015, 11:44:49 AMI find these arguments amusing. So much rage that often times doesn't even make any sense.I love how being pro gun-control means I hate the US.
I wouldn't be Russian if I tried making the US look good.
Because cars are apparently worth more than human lives. Okay then...
I also like how my threads somehow become master debating central.
Quote from: AstroNaru on May 04, 2015, 12:19:59 PMI also like how my threads somehow become master debating central.it was at this moment that naru realized he had becomethe Serious™
This is why we own concealed weapons
