Think pirating music is ok?

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Depends on who I'm pirating from.


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People who pirate anything are pieces of shit.
I mean, not really.
Content creators don't actually lose money from piracy.
You are not entitled to free content regardless.
Who gives a fuck?
People who make content? You say they're not losing money. They're losing money that they should have gotten but didn't because people were self-entitled pieces of shit. You are not entitled to free stuff just because you don't feel like paying for it. It's immoral.
Content creators don't actually lose money from piracy. People who pirate never intend on purchasing what they're pirating to begin with, therefore there are no lost sales because there wasn't a sale to begin with.

Artists or dev studios and the like do not lose money from piracy. They just use it as an excuse for their bullshit like DRM in games.


I don't actually condone piracy, btw.
If they're pirating it then they're clearly interested enough in the content to warrant a purchase. That's one of the shittiest excuses in the book.

As I said before, regardless of whether they lose money or not, piracy is a shitty thing to do to people trying to make a living off of doing what they love.
Just because they're pirating it doesn't mean they think it's worth money.
I never said piracy wasn't a shitty thing to do. Because it is.
It doesn't matter whether or not they think it's worth money. The fact is, if you want to use something that you have to pay for, you should pay for it. I think DVDs are overpriced, but I'm not going to pirate them because I don't think they're worth that much money.
Yeah, and I never once disagreed with what you're saying you nimrod.


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People who pirate anything are pieces of shit.
I mean, not really.
Content creators don't actually lose money from piracy.
You are not entitled to free content regardless.
Who gives a fuck?
People who make content? You say they're not losing money. They're losing money that they should have gotten but didn't because people were self-entitled pieces of shit. You are not entitled to free stuff just because you don't feel like paying for it. It's immoral.
Content creators don't actually lose money from piracy. People who pirate never intend on purchasing what they're pirating to begin with, therefore there are no lost sales because there wasn't a sale to begin with.

Artists or dev studios and the like do not lose money from piracy. They just use it as an excuse for their bullshit like DRM in games.


I don't actually condone piracy, btw.
If they're pirating it then they're clearly interested enough in the content to warrant a purchase. That's one of the shittiest excuses in the book.

As I said before, regardless of whether they lose money or not, piracy is a shitty thing to do to people trying to make a living off of doing what they love.
Just because they're pirating it doesn't mean they think it's worth money.
I never said piracy wasn't a shitty thing to do. Because it is.
It doesn't matter whether or not they think it's worth money. The fact is, if you want to use something that you have to pay for, you should pay for it. I think DVDs are overpriced, but I'm not going to pirate them because I don't think they're worth that much money.
Yeah, and I never once disagreed with what you're saying you nimrod.
Then why are you replying as though you do?


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I think DVDs are overpriced, but I'm not going to pirate them because I don't think they're worth that much money.
Oh, I would. Fuck the system lmao


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People who pirate anything are pieces of shit.
I mean, not really.
Content creators don't actually lose money from piracy.
You are not entitled to free content regardless.
Who gives a fuck?
People who make content? You say they're not losing money. They're losing money that they should have gotten but didn't because people were self-entitled pieces of shit. You are not entitled to free stuff just because you don't feel like paying for it. It's immoral.
Content creators don't actually lose money from piracy. People who pirate never intend on purchasing what they're pirating to begin with, therefore there are no lost sales because there wasn't a sale to begin with.

Artists or dev studios and the like do not lose money from piracy. They just use it as an excuse for their bullshit like DRM in games.


I don't actually condone piracy, btw.
If they're pirating it then they're clearly interested enough in the content to warrant a purchase. That's one of the shittiest excuses in the book.

As I said before, regardless of whether they lose money or not, piracy is a shitty thing to do to people trying to make a living off of doing what they love.
Just because they're pirating it doesn't mean they think it's worth money.
I never said piracy wasn't a shitty thing to do. Because it is.
It doesn't matter whether or not they think it's worth money. The fact is, if you want to use something that you have to pay for, you should pay for it. I think DVDs are overpriced, but I'm not going to pirate them because I don't think they're worth that much money.
Yeah, and I never once disagreed with what you're saying you nimrod.
Then why are you replying as though you do?
I'm not.
I don't condone piracy, as I've stated multiple times. That doesn't mean that I have to eat up the PR bollocks that companies put out regarding piracy and support all of the restrictive (and frankly, harmful to their content) practices they put into play.


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I pirate music and buy whatever I find enjoyable. The same goes for games, books, and movies. It's not ruining the economy because if I don't purchase it, my money is going elsewhere.


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lol.

Without piracy I wouldn't have found most of my favourite artists, whom after pirating one or two albums I then went on to legitimately buy them (and then some more), as well as t-shirts, live albums, gig tickets, etc...

While this is anecdotal, this certainly applies to others, even my mother who isn't exactly tech-savvy and discovers music through piracy and then buys shit-tonnes of albums soon afterwards.Okay, that may have been anecdotal as well, but it shows it isn't just applying to an individual... This is also backed by several studies showing that pirates buy more content than non-piraters (percentages and magnitudes vary depending on where the research came from).

They took a dive because either they sucked or they didn't spread the word about their music to get heard. The music industry itself that manage the whole thing are cancerous and don't really support artists unless they make it big or... well, making it big is the only way.



 
Last Edit: January 08, 2016, 07:03:55 PM by Pysgnirish


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Does anyone know of any artists that just give away their music for free and just make all of their money through touring and merchandise?

The only person I know who does that is Pretty Lights, but I wanted to know if anyone knew any others.
Last Edit: January 08, 2016, 07:00:50 PM by Winy


 
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Does anyone know of any artists that just give away their music for free and just makes all of their money through touring and merchandise?

The only person I know who does that is Pretty Lights, but I wanted to know if anyone knew any others.
death grips
swans

both of whom you can purchase albums from, but they always post their music on their respective youtube channels

trent reznor has also done that a couple times, but not with NIN's last album


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No, pirating music is not okay.

Pirating anything isn't okay.

Piracy is a crime.
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I'm listening to Death Grips right now.

This is... Certainly different.


 
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I'm listening to Death Grips right now.

This is... Certainly different.
ooh

what song


 
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I'm listening to Death Grips right now.

This is... Certainly different.
They're a meme


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I'm listening to Death Grips right now.

This is... Certainly different.
ooh

what song
Well, I just went onto iTunes and previewed all of the songs from "The Money Store," and I listened to the first few. I'll give them more of a chance in a bit, I was just skimming to get a feel for what genre they were. I'd heard of them, but never really looked into them before.


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My brother got hearing loss at the death grips concert he went to last June.

They are definitely interesting group, I enjoy them, although I don't listen to them often.


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lol.

Without piracy I wouldn't have found most of my favourite artists, whom after pirating one or two albums I then went on to legitimately buy them (and then some more), as well as t-shirts, live albums, gig tickets, etc...

While this is anecdotal, this certainly applies to others, even my mother who isn't exactly tech-savvy and discovers music through piracy and then buys shit-tonnes of albums soon afterwards.Okay, that may have been anecdotal as well, but it shows it isn't just applying to an individual... This is also backed by several studies showing that pirates buy more content than non-piraters (percentages and magnitudes vary depending on where the research came from).

They took a dive because either they sucked or they didn't spread the word about their music to get heard. The music industry itself that manage the whole thing are cancerous and don't really support artists unless they make it big or... well, making it big is the only way.

Basically this.


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I'm listening to Death Grips right now.

This is... Certainly different.
They're a meme
The best meme


 
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I'm listening to Death Grips right now.

This is... Certainly different.
They're a meme
The best meme
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I'm listening to Death Grips right now.

This is... Certainly different.
They're a meme
The best meme
no
yes
IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES GUILLOMEME
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I'm okay with piracy tbh


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If a band is signed, Labels make their money from music sales. Bands make money from live shows, merchandise sales, etc.


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If you release music put it for sale, don't just stream it on places like spotify. You will only make one tenth of a cent if you do.


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