There's nothing morally wrong with pushing the red button

Verbatim · September 01, 2015, 11:53:06 AM

Prove me wrong

Pro-tip: You can't

Jim · September 01, 2015, 11:53:55 AM

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Hahahaha very funny Zonda · September 01, 2015, 12:40:01 PM

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nͫiͤcͫeͤ · September 01, 2015, 12:41:45 PM

there's nothing morally wrong with the holocaust

gats · September 01, 2015, 12:41:52 PM

What does the red button do

nͫiͤcͫeͤ · September 01, 2015, 12:43:04 PM

Quote from: guts on September 01, 2015, 12:41:52 PM

What does the red button do

removes all anime from the universe

gats · September 01, 2015, 12:43:15 PM

Quote from: Ryle on September 01, 2015, 12:41:45 PM

there's nothing morally wrong with the holocaust

dur
Morals depend on the person and to Hitler, Jews were an evil group so at the time it was morally acceptable for him to gas them

Verbatim · September 01, 2015, 12:47:55 PM

Quote from: guts on September 01, 2015, 12:41:52 PM

What does the red button do

deletes everything in an instant

September 01, 2015, 12:52:38 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 12:47:55 PM

Quote from: guts on September 01, 2015, 12:41:52 PM
What does the red button do
deletes everything in an instant

Then yes, that's morally wrong. Killing a single person without their consent is evil, killing trillions of people without their consent is monstrous.

Verbatim · September 01, 2015, 12:54:32 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 01, 2015, 12:52:38 PM

Then yes, that's morally wrong. Killing a single person without their consent is evil, killing trillions of people without their consent is monstrous.

the idea is that there would be no one left to suffer

which is the greater good

Incan · September 01, 2015, 12:55:35 PM

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September 01, 2015, 12:55:40 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 12:54:32 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 01, 2015, 12:52:38 PM
Then yes, that's morally wrong. Killing a single person without their consent is evil, killing trillions of people without their consent is monstrous.
the idea is that there would be no one left to suffer

which is the greater good

That doesn't matter. If even one person refuses to consent to you pressing the button, it's morally deplorable.

Nexus · September 01, 2015, 12:55:58 PM

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Sandtrap · September 01, 2015, 12:56:32 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 12:47:55 PM

Quote from: guts on September 01, 2015, 12:41:52 PM
What does the red button do
deletes everything in an instant

Well, now that we've got a little context here, lemme think.

In most cases, destroying somebody's work is a pretty shitty thing to do. My work is important to me so if it were you pushing the red button, you'd be a cunt for destroying everything I've made and plan to make. And if it were me, it'd be the same thing because I'd be destroying somebody else's work too.

You don't fuck with people's shit without their permission and you certainly don't destroy it. You can criticise it. But you don't tread over others.

The red button is about as cunty as it could get if we're talking a full blown data wipe kind of deal.

Verbatim · September 01, 2015, 12:58:10 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 01, 2015, 12:55:40 PM

That doesn't matter. If even one person refuses to consent to you pressing the button, it's morally deplorable.

nah

breach of consent is permissible if there is a 100% guaranteed greater good

gats · September 01, 2015, 12:58:17 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 12:47:55 PM

Quote from: guts on September 01, 2015, 12:41:52 PM
What does the red button do
deletes everything in an instant

oh then yeah I agree

Sandtrap · September 01, 2015, 12:59:42 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 12:58:10 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 01, 2015, 12:55:40 PM
That doesn't matter. If even one person refuses to consent to you pressing the button, it's morally deplorable.
nah

breach of consent is permissible if there is a 100% guaranteed greater good

Loophole.

Who decides what the greater good is? Who's got that absolute authority and judgement to make on a call like that?

Verbatim · September 01, 2015, 12:59:50 PM

Quote from: ⁭⁭⁭⁭ on September 01, 2015, 12:56:32 PM

Well, now that we've got a little context here, lemme think.

by everything i mean everything

as in, the universe and everything in it

Verbatim · September 01, 2015, 01:00:19 PM

Quote from: ⁭⁭⁭⁭ on September 01, 2015, 12:59:42 PM

Loophole.

Who decides what the greater good is?

logic

September 01, 2015, 01:00:22 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 12:58:10 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 01, 2015, 12:55:40 PM
That doesn't matter. If even one person refuses to consent to you pressing the button, it's morally deplorable.
nah

breach of consent is permissible if there is a 100% guaranteed greater good

Consent is literally the basis of morality.

Sandtrap · September 01, 2015, 01:00:54 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 12:59:50 PM

Quote from: ⁭⁭⁭⁭ on September 01, 2015, 12:56:32 PM
Well, now that we've got a little context here, lemme think.
by everything i mean everything

as in, the universe and everything in it

My shit and my work are part of the universe. Don't touch my fuckin shit Verb.

Verbatim · September 01, 2015, 01:01:21 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 01, 2015, 01:00:22 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 12:58:10 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on September 01, 2015, 12:55:40 PM
That doesn't matter. If even one person refuses to consent to you pressing the button, it's morally deplorable.
nah

breach of consent is permissible if there is a 100% guaranteed greater good
Consent is literally the basis of morality.

i agree

but breach of consent is permissible if there is a 100% guaranteed greater good

think about it
100% guaranteed greater good

Mmmmm Napalm · September 01, 2015, 01:01:48 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 12:54:32 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on September 01, 2015, 12:52:38 PM
Then yes, that's morally wrong. Killing a single person without their consent is evil, killing trillions of people without their consent is monstrous.
the idea is that there would be no one left to suffer

which is the greater good

So Verb, when is the shooting spree gonna be?

Verbatim · September 01, 2015, 01:02:50 PM

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on September 01, 2015, 01:01:48 PM

So Verb, when is the shooting spree gonna be?

...never?

Sandtrap · September 01, 2015, 01:05:16 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 01:00:19 PM

Quote from: ⁭⁭⁭⁭ on September 01, 2015, 12:59:42 PM
Loophole.

Who decides what the greater good is?
logic

Does the universe cry over who dies and who doesn't? I sure don't see any evidence to point it out. Does it care? Most likely not. Do good and evil therefore exist? No.

Where'd you get your morals? Parents and environmental factors.

Your morals aren't technically yours because they were inherited and influenced. If you were born a psychopathic killer you wouldn't see that what you were doing was wrong due to your inheritance and perspective.

So whose perspective is right?

Aether · September 01, 2015, 01:08:19 PM

Quote from: ⁭⁭⁭⁭ on September 01, 2015, 01:05:16 PM

If you were born a psychopathic killer you wouldn't see that what you were doing was wrong due to your inheritance and perspective.

I just want to know what kind of infant has the cognitive capability to even be a psychopath.

Verbatim · September 01, 2015, 01:08:23 PM

Quote from: ⁭⁭⁭⁭ on September 01, 2015, 01:05:16 PM

So whose perspective is right?

logically, the perspective that prevents the most negative sensation from happening in the universe

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · September 01, 2015, 01:11:47 PM

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Sandtrap · September 01, 2015, 01:15:49 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 01, 2015, 01:08:23 PM

Quote from: ⁭⁭⁭⁭ on September 01, 2015, 01:05:16 PM
So whose perspective is right?
logically, the perspective that prevents the most negative sensation from happening in the universe

You'd better stop making loopholes here Verb.

Red button wipes everything clean right? How exactly would you be preventing negative sensation from happening in the universe if there was no universe around to harbor it? You're not actually technically preventing anything bad from happening in the universe because you're technically just destroying everything to say, "Oh hey look no more negative in the univer- oh wait there's nothing there."

Which also comes down to a complete violation of your own particular belief. You think forcing life on an entitiy that doesn't exist yet without permission is shitty?

How about forcing every single entitiy in existence not to exist without their consent?

Take it from multiple angles too. That's equally as negative because you're making the choice for countless numbers who may not want that.

That's pretty fucking negative.

Jim · September 01, 2015, 01:29:30 PM

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