He literally believes his opinion on hentai is at all relevant to the discussion at hand.
Quote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2016, 02:54:34 PMQuote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 02:52:21 PMSo basically you don't have an argument and you've been making a big deal out of nothing.so because i'm on your side, i'm not allowed to point out when you make bad argumentsExcept every point you've suggested has been unrelated to the topic of discussion.
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 02:52:21 PMSo basically you don't have an argument and you've been making a big deal out of nothing.so because i'm on your side, i'm not allowed to point out when you make bad arguments
So basically you don't have an argument and you've been making a big deal out of nothing.
Quote from: Inhuman on August 06, 2016, 03:01:21 PMGuys can't you see Verb is completely supporting your opinions while attacking them at the same time?DummiesWe know.The problem is he isn't joking.He literally believes his opinion on hentai is at all relevant to the discussion at hand.
Guys can't you see Verb is completely supporting your opinions while attacking them at the same time?Dummies
Only giving attention to the arguments that actually have standing doesn't mean that I think other arguments don't exist. If you honestly expect me to give the time of day to all the arguments out there that don't actually matter and aren't worth mentioning you really are looking to start shit over nothing.
Quote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 03:36:49 PMExcept that's how a democratic organization like the UN works.where do the limited resources come into play heresuppose hentai were banned in the US by democratic meanswhat about the UN having limited resources is relevant now
Except that's how a democratic organization like the UN works.
I'm starting to think this is all just a damage control effort by Verb after he wrongly accused me of using fallacies and nobody agreed with him.
Especially since he expects me to list every single one of the countless possible wackjob arguments out there as to why somebody out there would be opposed to something in order to prove that i don't fail/am full of fallacy/whatever else he decides to use to keep this going until he gets the last word.
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 03:42:33 PMOnly giving attention to the arguments that actually have standing doesn't mean that I think other arguments don't exist. If you honestly expect me to give the time of day to all the arguments out there that don't actually matter and aren't worth mentioning you really are looking to start shit over nothing.but you see, saying that they don't matter doesn't mean that they don't matterthey're wrongbut they still matter
Quote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2016, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 03:36:49 PMExcept that's how a democratic organization like the UN works.where do the limited resources come into play heresuppose hentai were banned in the US by democratic meanswhat about the UN having limited resources is relevant nowIt requires resources to enforce legislation.
Quote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 03:40:49 PMQuote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2016, 02:54:34 PMQuote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 02:52:21 PMSo basically you don't have an argument and you've been making a big deal out of nothing.so because i'm on your side, i'm not allowed to point out when you make bad argumentsExcept every point you've suggested has been unrelated to the topic of discussion.saying that they're unrelated doesn't make them unrelatedokay, every point you're bringing up right now is unrelated to what i'm sayingI WIN! is that how it works
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 03:46:18 PMI'm starting to think this is all just a damage control effort by Verb after he wrongly accused me of using fallacies and nobody agreed with him.none of which you have refuted in any wayjust because people are stupid and don't agree doesn't mean that they're rightQuoteEspecially since he expects me to list every single one of the countless possible wackjob arguments out there as to why somebody out there would be opposed to something in order to prove that i don't fail/am full of fallacy/whatever else he decides to use to keep this going until he gets the last word.the only reason to be against a ban on hentai is because hentai is harmlessbut trying to argue that the UN's resources would be "better" spent on other things is fallaciousthis really isn't that complicated
Quote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 03:47:52 PMQuote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2016, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 03:36:49 PMExcept that's how a democratic organization like the UN works.where do the limited resources come into play heresuppose hentai were banned in the US by democratic meanswhat about the UN having limited resources is relevant nowIt requires resources to enforce legislation.uh, yeah, no shitthe point is that, with hentai banned, the limited resources to enforce the legislation don't matter anyway--it's a different matter entirelypiracy is illegal, but no one ever gets arrested for piracy, because it's a waste of time and moneythe same exact thing would apply to a hentai ban--so the limited resources argument is, again, irrelevant
Let me break down the situation here."UN wants to ban hentai."Why?"They say its to protect women and children."Well, there's no evidence to propagate that point.Verbatim: 'Well you seeeee you're right that hentai shouldn't be banned, but its not because the point that the UN is making is wrong, its because of my own secret feelings that I'm going to be purposefully vague about so I can get my dick hard when somebody asks me what it is.'I don't think that matters.At all.'BUH-BUH-BUH''MY THING!''THE THING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT'*Gotta somehow make this conversation about me so someone will ask*
The UN should ban celery because it causes the oppression of women and children. If you prove me wrong and suggest that we tackle things like the sex trade and repressive theocratic regimes in the middle east instead because those things will actually help to alleviate the suffering of women and children you're just committing a fallacy.
the UN once again proving they're the shittiest international treaty in existence
Quote from: SecondClass on August 06, 2016, 02:01:39 PMthe UN once again proving they're the shittiest international treaty in existenceI'm surprised you're actually against the UN on this.
When I noticed my thread had gotten 72 replies I had actually expected a worthwhile convo to read, not Fallacy fallacy, ad Hominem bullshit.
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 03:56:24 PMThe UN should ban celery because it causes the oppression of women and children. If you prove me wrong and suggest that we tackle things like the sex trade and repressive theocratic regimes in the middle east instead because those things will actually help to alleviate the suffering of women and children you're just committing a fallacy.yesmostly because you haven't actually DONE the underlined part yetand maybe there are other good reasons to ban celery that you're not accounting for
Quote from: Tsukuyomi Saber on August 06, 2016, 04:25:45 PMWhen I noticed my thread had gotten 72 replies I had actually expected a worthwhile convo to read, not Fallacy fallacy, ad Hominem bullshit.you have LC's piss-poor argumentation skills to blameLMAO
Quote from: Inhuman on August 06, 2016, 03:01:21 PMGuys can't you see Verb is completely supporting your opinions while attacking them at the same time?Dummiesif someone were to become a vegan because of health reasons and not ethical ones, i'd support their decision, but i would attack their reasoningit's possible for the people on your side to be fucking idiots who make your side look bad, and it's necessary to argue with these people
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 01:29:31 PMIncorrectly throwing out fallacies doesn't make you correct.http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy#Fallacy_fallacy_fallacyQuoteOr is this another "I don't like it so therefore it's objectively wrong" episode from Verbatim?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Incorrectly throwing out fallacies doesn't make you correct.
Or is this another "I don't like it so therefore it's objectively wrong" episode from Verbatim?
>Three pages of people arguing LITERALLY about arguingI'm at work, someone please post the Malcom In The Middle image saying "I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed."
The UN Tried To Ban Hentai For Discrimination Against Women! (recent)
