Quote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 02:03:59 PMThe UN has limited resources, so how they choose to allocate those resources is always relevant to the matter at hand.You're credibility is also on the line, because its important to discourage people from placing faith in someone who is consistently self serving or otherwise wrong.The fallacy in your argument is that you believe that a constructive discussion on opposing viewpoints on the functions of the world government must adhere to a more logical form of discussion and not a more human one.We do business by Robert's Rules of Order, not by the rules of a term paper.see, the funny thing is that i actually don't think hentai should be banned under any justificationIn other words, I completely agree with LC.but that doesn't make his arguments any less fallacious LMAOand yes, all discussion should adhere to a logical form of discussion and not a "human" one--we should stray as far from human reasoning as possible when it comes to... well, fucking anything
The UN has limited resources, so how they choose to allocate those resources is always relevant to the matter at hand.You're credibility is also on the line, because its important to discourage people from placing faith in someone who is consistently self serving or otherwise wrong.The fallacy in your argument is that you believe that a constructive discussion on opposing viewpoints on the functions of the world government must adhere to a more logical form of discussion and not a more human one.We do business by Robert's Rules of Order, not by the rules of a term paper.
(never mind the fact that you didn't actually use any fallacies correctly).
Quote from: Verbatim on August 06, 2016, 02:09:42 PMQuote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 02:03:59 PMThe UN has limited resources, so how they choose to allocate those resources is always relevant to the matter at hand.You're credibility is also on the line, because its important to discourage people from placing faith in someone who is consistently self serving or otherwise wrong.The fallacy in your argument is that you believe that a constructive discussion on opposing viewpoints on the functions of the world government must adhere to a more logical form of discussion and not a more human one.We do business by Robert's Rules of Order, not by the rules of a term paper.see, the funny thing is that i actually don't think hentai should be banned under any justificationIn other words, I completely agree with LC.but that doesn't make his arguments any less fallacious LMAOand yes, all discussion should adhere to a logical form of discussion and not a "human" one--we should stray as far from human reasoning as possible when it comes to... well, fucking anythingI never made comment on your personal opinion, and frankly, I couldn't care less about it.I merely explained the validity and logical soundness of LC's points, and made conjecture that your criticism of them was uncalled for.
QuoteThe UN has limited resources, so how they choose to allocate those resources is always relevant to the matter at hand.this also wouldn't be a bad point if it weren't a strawman as welli never said they didn't have limited resources, or that they shouldn't allocate them to something more worthwhile--merely that trying to argue that something is more worthwhile than another a fallacy of relative privation regardless of whether it's truethere ARE many good reasons to be against banning hentaithis is not one of them
The UN has limited resources, so how they choose to allocate those resources is always relevant to the matter at hand.
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 02:15:16 PM(never mind the fact that you didn't actually use any fallacies correctly).i'm not the one using fallacies--you areeither way, i explained each and every one of them, in case you're lost
I merely explained the validity and logical soundness of LC's points
Quote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 02:15:49 PMI merely explained the validity and logical soundness of LC's pointsstating that something is "sound" without giving an explanation does not count as an explanationhe has the right opinion, but he's supporting it with faulty logic
Verb has yet to realize that calling relative privation on this doesn't actually apply.
You have a poor understanding of the progression of a conversation.Not everything I say is going to be directly purposed to contrast things you say.
Quote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 02:19:46 PMYou have a poor understanding of the progression of a conversation.Not everything I say is going to be directly purposed to contrast things you say.your statement was blatantly purposed to contradict my relative privation claimyou're arguing that relative privation doesn't apply here because the UN has limited resourcesi'm saying that's irrelevant, and it's STILL a fallacy of relative privation
explaining why you think they apply doesn't mean they actually do
None of it is faulty. There is nothing faulty about saying that if you want you're going to tackle the problem of suffering of women and children you should fight the things that are actually causing it instead of going after a completely unrelated non-issue.
Whether or not you have the resources to do something is always relevant bucko.The rest of us have jobs.
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 02:19:12 PMVerb has yet to realize that calling relative privation on this doesn't actually apply.maybe you don't know this, but merely stating that "it doesn't apply" does not mean that it doesn't apply
In this circumstance it does though because we're on the subject of the suffering of women and children.
if you're going to use "I don't like it" as the crux of your argument as to why it's a problem
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 02:38:44 PMIn this circumstance it does though because we're on the subject of the suffering of women and children.you arei'm notQuoteif you're going to use "I don't like it" as the crux of your argument as to why it's a problemwhy what's a problemhentai?i don't think hentai is a problem
So basically you don't have an argument and you've been making a big deal out of nothing.
Guys can't you see Verb is completely supporting your opinions while attacking them at the same time?Dummies
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 02:52:21 PMSo basically you don't have an argument and you've been making a big deal out of nothing.so because i'm on your side, i'm not allowed to point out when you make bad arguments
That would be fine if that were the case, but you're not.
Nothing you've said so far is even relevant considering you're apparently not even talking about the same subject as I am.
1). alleged social harm
Quote from: Arky on August 06, 2016, 02:30:18 PMWhether or not you have the resources to do something is always relevant bucko.The rest of us have jobs.nothing about having limited resources necessitates that you use them for what other people consider worthwhile
I really don't care about any other arguments out there.
Quote from: LC on August 06, 2016, 03:36:08 PMI really don't care about any other arguments out there.that doesn't mean they're not there, and it doesn't make it any less fallacious for you to not acknowledge them until now
Except that's how a democratic organization like the UN works.
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