The South isn't racist

Luciana · February 27, 2016, 04:30:15 AM

Jim Crow also happened when Johnson pulled the troops out of the South and let southern politicians put Jim Crow in place. It was basically another 100 years of slavery but under a new and less oppressive face.

It happened under the Union, yes, but that doesn't mean the South lawmakers and sympathizers suddenly vanished when the country was reunited. It's one of the reasons Johnson was impeached but saved by one vote.

Solonoid · February 27, 2016, 04:31:04 AM

Like I said, the esposition of racists does not impact the reality of the slave market.

And lol
>implying northfags weren't racist

That's good shit LC.
Guess which army practiced segregation?

Luciana · February 27, 2016, 04:32:57 AM

I'm not saying it's okay at all, like in the slightest, because it's not

but there is a difference between being racist, and molding your laws around racism

Luciana · February 27, 2016, 04:35:16 AM

And lastly, you can argue the common man (who never owned slaves) was fighting for a war they thought was the preservation of all they knew, but it was twisted by their leaders. But to say the South wasn't fighting for slavery is a blatant and criminal ignorance of the entire reason they succeeded.

Their way of life was being threatened, sure, but they were oppressing an entire race to preserve that way of life. That is unacceptable.

There were heroes in the South fighting such as Stonewall Jackson, or Robert E. Lee. There are heroes on all sides of war, under all different banners. It doesn't make the root message and reason any less terrible though.

big sponge · February 27, 2016, 04:37:29 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on February 27, 2016, 04:31:04 AM

Like I said, the esposition of racists does not impact the reality of the slave market.

And lol
>implying northfags weren't racist

That's good shit LC.
Guess which army practiced segregation?

Both armies practiced segregation.

I never said that there wasn't racism in the North, just that the North was less racist than the south.

Both slavery in the Confederacy and the government of the Confederacy were racist. All of the historical documents of the day spell it out plain as day. Stop believing in southern revisionist history and take a look at what the people of that era were actually saying. It's pretty different than what the revisionists would have you believe.

Luciana · February 27, 2016, 04:38:53 AM

And on a random note before bed after reading up on Johnson on Wiki again, I still find it baffling how Republicans and Democrats did a literal 180 on each other after Roosevelt popped into office with his New Deal.

challengerX · February 27, 2016, 04:50:55 AM

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Mattie G Indahouse · February 27, 2016, 06:16:27 AM

Quote from: Mad Max on February 25, 2016, 02:40:18 PM

"Confederate Heritage Month

How is that racist?

🍁 Aria 🔮 · February 27, 2016, 09:05:12 AM

To be fair, racism towards blacks probably arose from the institution of slavery in the US, and not the other way around. Slavery itself wasn't racist, but that's not to say that implications arising from over a century of subjugation of a single race led to racist beliefs.

Assassin 11D7 · February 27, 2016, 10:38:40 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKIN' SOUTHERNORS, ALL YOU DO IS FUCK YOUR SISTERS YOU INFERIOR RACIST CUCKOLDS, HAHAHAHA.

DAS B00T x2 · February 27, 2016, 10:40:52 AM

Quote from: Luciana on February 27, 2016, 01:38:03 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on February 27, 2016, 01:32:54 AM
I'd just like to point out one thing.

The institution of slavery isn't racist.
The slaves were black because Africa sold the cheapest slaves.
Don't slip on that slope

It's true tho
Irish slaves were things.

Luciana · February 27, 2016, 10:54:53 AM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 27, 2016, 10:40:52 AM

Quote from: Luciana on February 27, 2016, 01:38:03 AM
Quote from: Solonoid on February 27, 2016, 01:32:54 AM
I'd just like to point out one thing.

The institution of slavery isn't racist.
The slaves were black because Africa sold the cheapest slaves.
Don't slip on that slope
It's true tho
Irish slaves were things.

So were Jews and Germanic people. I get that.

Assassin 11D7 · February 27, 2016, 10:59:06 AM

I'm Slavic, when am I getting my reparations? When do I get Constantinople?

DAS B00T x2 · February 27, 2016, 11:07:15 AM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 27, 2016, 10:59:06 AM

I'm Slavic, when am I getting my reparations? When do I get Constantinople?

hahahahaha the slavs are thinking that they're people again

Assassin 11D7 · February 27, 2016, 11:08:36 AM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 27, 2016, 11:07:15 AM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 27, 2016, 10:59:06 AM
I'm Slavic, when am I getting my reparations? When do I get Constantinople?
hahahahaha the slavs are thinking that they're people again

Tell me that again when the Russians come back to finish raping Berlin.

DAS B00T x2 · February 27, 2016, 11:10:03 AM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 27, 2016, 11:08:36 AM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 27, 2016, 11:07:15 AM
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 27, 2016, 10:59:06 AM
I'm Slavic, when am I getting my reparations? When do I get Constantinople?
hahahahaha the slavs are thinking that they're people again
Tell me that again when the Russians come back to finish raping Berlin.

They'll have to get through all the muzzies already doing that tho

Assassin 11D7 · February 27, 2016, 11:12:59 AM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 27, 2016, 11:10:03 AM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 27, 2016, 11:08:36 AM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 27, 2016, 11:07:15 AM
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 27, 2016, 10:59:06 AM
I'm Slavic, when am I getting my reparations? When do I get Constantinople?
hahahahaha the slavs are thinking that they're people again
Tell me that again when the Russians come back to finish raping Berlin.
They'll have to get through all the muzzies already doing that tho

They've already turned that into a national sport.

YouTube

PSU · February 27, 2016, 12:04:05 PM

But black lives matter isn't racist, huh?

PSU · February 27, 2016, 12:05:33 PM

Quote from: challengerX on February 27, 2016, 04:50:55 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on February 27, 2016, 04:31:04 AM
Like I said, the esposition of racists does not impact the reality of the slave market.

And lol
>implying northfags weren't racist

That's good shit LC.
Guess which army practiced segregation?
Using blacks as cannon fodder isn't desegregation.

God DAMN how the fuck are you motherfuckers in such fucking denial. How the FUCK can you look at all the evil shit white people did in the south and say "nah, not racist". You're fucked in the head. And you guys wonder why black folks have a chip on their shoulder.

The north were just as racist as the south.

The south just NEEDED slaves for their economy, which is why they tried to hold on so long.

Turkey · February 27, 2016, 12:13:36 PM

The Heartland and Midwest are probably more racist, tbh fam

🍁 Aria 🔮 · February 27, 2016, 09:44:29 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 27, 2016, 12:13:36 PM

The Heartland and Midwest are probably more racist, tbh fam

Bloody Kansas was some shit, man. People getting hacked up with goddamn swords.

Turkey · February 27, 2016, 10:09:49 PM

Quote from: Prime Multivac on February 27, 2016, 09:44:29 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 27, 2016, 12:13:36 PM
The Heartland and Midwest are probably more racist, tbh fam
Bloody Kansas was some shit, man. People getting hacked up with goddamn swords.

Well even today, just look at where all the race riots, ghettos, black slums or most of the high-profile police shootings of unarmed black guys are located...not the south, that's for sure. There's no rap about being "straight outta Lafayettville".

Solonoid · February 27, 2016, 10:15:47 PM

Quote from: LC on February 27, 2016, 04:37:29 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on February 27, 2016, 04:31:04 AM
Like I said, the esposition of racists does not impact the reality of the slave market.

And lol
>implying northfags weren't racist

That's good shit LC.
Guess which army practiced segregation?
Both armies practiced segregation.

I never said that there wasn't racism in the North, just that the North was less racist than the south.

Both slavery in the Confederacy and the government of the Confederacy were racist. All of the historical documents of the day spell it out plain as day. Stop believing in southern revisionist history and take a look at what the people of that era were actually saying. It's pretty different than what the revisionists would have you believe.

So if they were both racist and slavery isn't a racist practice, how come we should pretend that the confederacy never happened?

Verbatim · February 27, 2016, 10:18:57 PM

Quote from: Prime Multivac on February 27, 2016, 09:05:12 AM

Slavery itself wasn't racist

what

slavery itself isn't racist--sure, not in and of itself

but wasn't racist? as in, the american slave trade was not racist?

i'm pretty sure it was about as racist as you can get, actually

Solonoid · February 27, 2016, 10:19:06 PM

Quote from: PSU on February 27, 2016, 12:05:33 PM

Quote from: challengerX on February 27, 2016, 04:50:55 AM
Quote from: Solonoid on February 27, 2016, 04:31:04 AM
Like I said, the esposition of racists does not impact the reality of the slave market.

And lol
>implying northfags weren't racist

That's good shit LC.
Guess which army practiced segregation?
Using blacks as cannon fodder isn't desegregation.

God DAMN how the fuck are you motherfuckers in such fucking denial. How the FUCK can you look at all the evil shit white people did in the south and say "nah, not racist". You're fucked in the head. And you guys wonder why black folks have a chip on their shoulder.

The north were just as racist as the south.

The south just NEEDED slaves for their economy, which is why they tried to hold on so long.

Exactly, and slavery wasn't racist.

There were slaves of all races, the fact that most of them were black just stems from the fact that the blacks who trapped the slaves had access to more blacks than any other race.

Verbatim · February 27, 2016, 10:22:54 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on February 27, 2016, 10:19:06 PM

There were slaves of all races

[citation needed]

Luciana · February 27, 2016, 10:30:18 PM

Quote from: PSU on February 27, 2016, 12:04:05 PM

But black lives matter isn't racist, huh?

I don't think you understand the root message of it. This is like saying "but MLK's movement wasn't racist, huh?" and then referring to Malcolm X and some of the violent protests back then.

Solonoid · February 27, 2016, 10:31:13 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2016, 10:22:54 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on February 27, 2016, 10:19:06 PM
There were slaves of all races
[citation needed]

Here, an African slave market selling exclusively whites.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

Luciana · February 27, 2016, 10:32:00 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2016, 10:22:54 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on February 27, 2016, 10:19:06 PM
There were slaves of all races
[citation needed]

"slavery in America wasn't racist because history has had slavery of multiple races"

i think that is the message he's passing. or he's just looking at slavery in america at literally the base of the definition of slavery.

DAS B00T x2 · February 27, 2016, 10:32:26 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2016, 10:18:57 PM

Quote from: Prime Multivac on February 27, 2016, 09:05:12 AM
Slavery itself wasn't racist
what

slavery itself isn't racist--sure, not in and of itself

but wasn't racist? as in, the american slave trade was not racist?

i'm pretty sure it was about as racist as you can get, actually

Slave trade wasn't racist. It was pure entrepreneuring capitolism on the part of the Ethiopians that sold us the tribes that they conquered.
God bless the Free Market.