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Good.
The human is dead.
You're eating it.
It is wrong to eat something that used to be living and did not consent, or have the ability to, consent.
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There are two components here, do not conflate them.
(1) Consent to being killed
(2) Consent to being eaten after death

If you have (2), it is moral. If the being is incapable of consenting and doesn't even understand the proposition of being eaten after death, it is moral.  (1) is always irrelevant.

If it is immoral to eat a being that doesn't understand the concept of their body continuing on after death, it is equally immoral to do literally anything else with their body and I don't think even you believe that.


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If the being is incapable of consenting and doesn't even understand the proposition of being eaten after death, it is moral.
No it isn't, and I seriously hope you're just trolling if you think that.
If it is immoral to eat a being that doesn't understand the concept of their body continuing on after death, it is equally immoral to do literally anything else with their body and I don't think even you believe that.
Lives = lives, no matter their intelligence. Eating something that lived, whether it had the ability to know it would continuing existing after death or not, is immoral.
Last Edit: January 09, 2015, 11:21:26 PM by The Edgy Master


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If the being is incapable of consenting and doesn't even understand the proposition of being eaten after death, it is moral.
No it isn't, and I seriously hope you're just trolling if you think that.
If it is immoral to eat a being that doesn't understand the concept of their body continuing on after death, it is equally immoral to do literally anything else with their body and I don't think even you believe that.
Lives = lives, no matter their intelligence. Eating something that lived, whether it had the ability to know it would continuing existing after death or not, is immoral.
Please explain to me why eating them is less moral than doing literally anything else, given the premise that they did not understand the concept of their body lingering after death and left you no articulation of their desires for what to do with it after death.

The cow did not consent to you burying its body after it died, therefore immoral.
The cow did not consent to you leaving its body to rot in the field after it died, therefore immoral.
The cow did not consent to you holding a tasteful funeral service in its honor after it died, therefore immoral.


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If the being is incapable of consenting and doesn't even understand the proposition of being eaten after death, it is moral.
No it isn't, and I seriously hope you're just trolling if you think that.
If it is immoral to eat a being that doesn't understand the concept of their body continuing on after death, it is equally immoral to do literally anything else with their body and I don't think even you believe that.
Lives = lives, no matter their intelligence. Eating something that lived, whether it had the ability to know it would continuing existing after death or not, is immoral.
Please explain to me why eating them is less moral than doing literally anything else, given the premise that they did not understand the concept of their body lingering after death and left you no articulation of their desires for what to do with it after death.

The cow did not consent to you burying it's body after it died, therefore immoral.
The cow did not consent to you leaving it's body to rot in the field after it died, therefore immoral.
The cow did not consent to you holding a tasteful funeral service in its honor after it died, therefore immoral.
Let's bring our human back into it.
They did not say what you should do with their body.
Is it okay to eat them then?
No, they should still be buried.

A life is a life, whether or not it can communicate what it wants to happen after death doesn't matter.
All deaths should be treated equally. In this case, our culture buries out dead. So we bury it.


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Let's bring our human back into it.
They did not say what you should do with their body.
Is it okay to eat them then?
No, they should still be buried.

A life is a life, whether or not it can communicate what it wants to happen after death doesn't matter.
All deaths should be treated equally. In this case, our culture buries out dead. So we bury it.
If they didn't leave a will I believe the decisions go to next of kin but I'm no lawyer.
How can you argue against anthropocentrism and then two sentences later tell me we should anthropocentrically treat animal deaths according to human culture as if that's something they would have wanted.

The cow didn't consent to being buried, the cow has no existing culture that normalizes burial of the dead, nor could it because the cow doesn't even understand the concept to begin with.  By your arguments burying the cow is immoral.


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Let's bring our human back into it.
They did not say what you should do with their body.
Is it okay to eat them then?
No, they should still be buried.

A life is a life, whether or not it can communicate what it wants to happen after death doesn't matter.
All deaths should be treated equally. In this case, our culture buries out dead. So we bury it.
If they didn't leave a will I believe the decisions go to next of kin but I'm no lawyer.
How can you argue against anthropocentrism and then two sentences later tell me we should anthropocentrically treat animal deaths according to human culture as if that's something they would have wanted.

The cow didn't consent to being buried, the cow has no existing culture that normalizes burial of the dead, nor could it because the cow doesn't even understand the concept to begin with.  By your arguments burying the cow is immoral.
I'm arguing to do what you think is moral.
If you think eating people is inherently wrong without consent then eating any other life without consent is wrong too.
Because animals can't give consent to being eaten it is immoral.
It is not considered immoral (in fact, it's considered very moral) to bury a dead person, thus it wouldn't be considered immoral to bury an animal.


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I'm arguing to do what you think is moral.
If you think eating people is inherently wrong without consent then eating any other life without consent is wrong too.
Because animals can't give consent to being eaten it is immoral.
It is not considered immoral (in fact, it's considered very moral) to bury a dead person, thus it wouldn't be considered immoral to bury an animal.
Eating people after death without their consent is only wrong because people are capable of understanding and consenting to actions after their death in the first place.  That is, in life they had a understanding that their body would continue to exist after death, likely a preference for what should be done with it, and likely an aversion to the thought of certain other things being done to it.

If in my will I state that I should not be buried and you do it anyway it is immoral.  If I leave no will, burying me without consent from my family is also immoral.  If I leave no family behind and you have no knowledge of what culture I belong to, burying me is just as immoral as doing anything else, regardless of how much you want to just assume your culture accounts for all beings.

There is absolutely no reason to pick out burial as somehow the best thing to do with the body of an animal when it had no preference in the matter in life and no understanding of the situation in the first place.
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Eating people after death without their consent is only wrong because people are capable of understanding and consenting to actions after their death in the first place.
Sorry son, you're wrong.