The Forerunner Ecumene at its height would destroy the Imperium of Man. The Forerunner Ecumene at its peak against the IoM at its peak plus the Emperor would be a closer fight.
Quote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:32:04 PMThe Forerunner Ecumene at its height would destroy the Imperium of Man. The Forerunner Ecumene at its peak against the IoM at its peak plus the Emperor would be a closer fight.>The Emperor>Close fightnice joke
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 04, 2015, 06:38:06 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:32:04 PMThe Forerunner Ecumene at its height would destroy the Imperium of Man. The Forerunner Ecumene at its peak against the IoM at its peak plus the Emperor would be a closer fight.>The Emperor>Close fightnice jokeNIGGA IS THAT HERESY IM READIN HERE?!
Quote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:38:43 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 04, 2015, 06:38:06 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:32:04 PMThe Forerunner Ecumene at its height would destroy the Imperium of Man. The Forerunner Ecumene at its peak against the IoM at its peak plus the Emperor would be a closer fight.>The Emperor>Close fightnice jokeNIGGA IS THAT HERESY IM READIN HERE?!To do a camnator, the only heretic here is yourself.Doubting the Emperor cannot singlehandedly grape the entire forerunner species out of existence is almost cute in it's naive heresy.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:42:45 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:38:43 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 04, 2015, 06:38:06 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:32:04 PMThe Forerunner Ecumene at its height would destroy the Imperium of Man. The Forerunner Ecumene at its peak against the IoM at its peak plus the Emperor would be a closer fight.>The Emperor>Close fightnice jokeNIGGA IS THAT HERESY IM READIN HERE?!To do a camnator, the only heretic here is yourself.Doubting the Emperor cannot singlehandedly grape the entire forerunner species out of existence is almost cute in it's naive heresy.Of course he can't, not while being alive and not in the Golden Throne. Alive he is powerful yes, but when the immense might of the superior Forerunner navy hits...yeah.
Quote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:44:23 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:42:45 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:38:43 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 04, 2015, 06:38:06 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:32:04 PMThe Forerunner Ecumene at its height would destroy the Imperium of Man. The Forerunner Ecumene at its peak against the IoM at its peak plus the Emperor would be a closer fight.>The Emperor>Close fightnice jokeNIGGA IS THAT HERESY IM READIN HERE?!To do a camnator, the only heretic here is yourself.Doubting the Emperor cannot singlehandedly grape the entire forerunner species out of existence is almost cute in it's naive heresy.Of course he can't, not while being alive and not in the Golden Throne. Alive he is powerful yes, but when the immense might of the superior Forerunner navy hits...yeah.If the forerunners get to be at their peak, so does the Emperor.Or hell, just switch off the throne and watch him reincarnate.Sure terra would be lost but then the golden boy is back in town.This is a chap who dragged a dragon from syria to mars in an age without space travel.Go figure.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:46:45 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:44:23 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:42:45 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:38:43 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 04, 2015, 06:38:06 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:32:04 PMThe Forerunner Ecumene at its height would destroy the Imperium of Man. The Forerunner Ecumene at its peak against the IoM at its peak plus the Emperor would be a closer fight.>The Emperor>Close fightnice jokeNIGGA IS THAT HERESY IM READIN HERE?!To do a camnator, the only heretic here is yourself.Doubting the Emperor cannot singlehandedly grape the entire forerunner species out of existence is almost cute in it's naive heresy.Of course he can't, not while being alive and not in the Golden Throne. Alive he is powerful yes, but when the immense might of the superior Forerunner navy hits...yeah.If the forerunners get to be at their peak, so does the Emperor.Or hell, just switch off the throne and watch him reincarnate.Sure terra would be lost but then the golden boy is back in town.This is a chap who dragged a dragon from syria to mars in an age without space travel.Go figure.That would imply that the Star Child Theory is correct.
Quote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:48:44 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:46:45 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:44:23 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:42:45 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:38:43 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 04, 2015, 06:38:06 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 06:32:04 PMThe Forerunner Ecumene at its height would destroy the Imperium of Man. The Forerunner Ecumene at its peak against the IoM at its peak plus the Emperor would be a closer fight.>The Emperor>Close fightnice jokeNIGGA IS THAT HERESY IM READIN HERE?!To do a camnator, the only heretic here is yourself.Doubting the Emperor cannot singlehandedly grape the entire forerunner species out of existence is almost cute in it's naive heresy.Of course he can't, not while being alive and not in the Golden Throne. Alive he is powerful yes, but when the immense might of the superior Forerunner navy hits...yeah.If the forerunners get to be at their peak, so does the Emperor.Or hell, just switch off the throne and watch him reincarnate.Sure terra would be lost but then the golden boy is back in town.This is a chap who dragged a dragon from syria to mars in an age without space travel.Go figure.That would imply that the Star Child Theory is correct.I favour the Sensei theory really <_<Nothing like feeding someone all of their children to reincarnate them the hard way.
No Wankperor.But even with him alive, the Emberor is powered by the faith of people (I believe). And when the Forerunner starts blowing up star systems and blowing up planets, I'm sure that his power will fade as people lose faith.
Quote from: I_IRONMAN_I on October 04, 2015, 06:52:27 PMNo Wankperor.But even with him alive, the Emberor is powered by the faith of people (I believe). And when the Forerunner starts blowing up star systems and blowing up planets, I'm sure that his power will fade as people lose faith.Cry more.The Emperor was a God powered being even before the faith in the Emperor started to supercharge his psychic imprint in the warp.Oh no blowing up a few planets, whatever will the feeble hearted folk of the Imperium do.It's not like the Imperium itself routinely burns entire planets to ashes, detonates their cores and atomises the rubble. Or that every day more and more planets fall to daemonic incursion. Or the Nids. Or the Tau. Or the Eldar Pirates. Or the Necrons. Or the Chaos Marines. Or the Orks.Whatever will they do, they must be quaking at the thought of a few planets, star systems and subsectors being liquidated.His power isn't a malleable thing based on faith points, the accumulated psychic imprint of the entire species has created a warp entity in the form of the Emperor which is at the same time the Emperor. Killing a few trillion humans won't do jack shit in 40k.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:58:26 PMQuote from: I_IRONMAN_I on October 04, 2015, 06:52:27 PMNo Wankperor.But even with him alive, the Emberor is powered by the faith of people (I believe). And when the Forerunner starts blowing up star systems and blowing up planets, I'm sure that his power will fade as people lose faith.Cry more.The Emperor was a God powered being even before the faith in the Emperor started to supercharge his psychic imprint in the warp.Oh no blowing up a few planets, whatever will the feeble hearted folk of the Imperium do.It's not like the Imperium itself routinely burns entire planets to ashes, detonates their cores and atomises the rubble. Or that every day more and more planets fall to daemonic incursion. Or the Nids. Or the Tau. Or the Eldar Pirates. Or the Necrons. Or the Chaos Marines. Or the Orks.Whatever will they do, they must be quaking at the thought of a few planets, star systems and subsectors being liquidated.His power isn't a malleable thing based on faith points, the accumulated psychic imprint of the entire species has created a warp entity in the form of the Emperor which is at the same time the Emperor. Killing a few trillion humans won't do jack shit in 40k.holy fuck youre a dork GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
Funny thing is, my OP never included the Empurur.Or nids. Or Tau. Or CTan. Or anything.This is the Imperium vs Forerunners.Not the God Emburur of Mankind vs Forerunners.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:58:26 PMQuote from: I_IRONMAN_I on October 04, 2015, 06:52:27 PMNo Wankperor.But even with him alive, the Emberor is powered by the faith of people (I believe). And when the Forerunner starts blowing up star systems and blowing up planets, I'm sure that his power will fade as people lose faith.Cry more.The Emperor was a God powered being even before the faith in the Emperor started to supercharge his psychic imprint in the warp.Oh no blowing up a few planets, whatever will the feeble hearted folk of the Imperium do.It's not like the Imperium itself routinely burns entire planets to ashes, detonates their cores and atomises the rubble. Or that every day more and more planets fall to daemonic incursion. Or the Nids. Or the Tau. Or the Eldar Pirates. Or the Necrons. Or the Chaos Marines. Or the Orks.Whatever will they do, they must be quaking at the thought of a few planets, star systems and subsectors being liquidated.His power isn't a malleable thing based on faith points, the accumulated psychic imprint of the entire species has created a warp entity in the form of the Emperor which is at the same time the Emperor. Killing a few trillion humans won't do jack shit in 40k.Forerunners are closer to super-civilizations like the Culture and stuff than the IoM. Book Forerunners would deploy so fast though slipspace that the Imperium would lag behind.Terra would be the only planet that would take years to besiege and conquer because...well its Terra. What the Imperium has going for them in standard infantry are flashlight guys against the Warrior-Servants, the Space Marines against the superior numbers of the ancient Prometheans, and their warships are outclassed by the Forerunner battleships. Contender-class AIs would render most of the IoM's naval ships useless and allow the rest of the Forerunner armada to mop the floor...or space with the inferior Imperial ships. This is like comparing the Galactic Empire with United Federation of Planets.
Quote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 07:04:44 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:58:26 PMQuote from: I_IRONMAN_I on October 04, 2015, 06:52:27 PMNo Wankperor.But even with him alive, the Emberor is powered by the faith of people (I believe). And when the Forerunner starts blowing up star systems and blowing up planets, I'm sure that his power will fade as people lose faith.Cry more.The Emperor was a God powered being even before the faith in the Emperor started to supercharge his psychic imprint in the warp.Oh no blowing up a few planets, whatever will the feeble hearted folk of the Imperium do.It's not like the Imperium itself routinely burns entire planets to ashes, detonates their cores and atomises the rubble. Or that every day more and more planets fall to daemonic incursion. Or the Nids. Or the Tau. Or the Eldar Pirates. Or the Necrons. Or the Chaos Marines. Or the Orks.Whatever will they do, they must be quaking at the thought of a few planets, star systems and subsectors being liquidated.His power isn't a malleable thing based on faith points, the accumulated psychic imprint of the entire species has created a warp entity in the form of the Emperor which is at the same time the Emperor. Killing a few trillion humans won't do jack shit in 40k.Forerunners are closer to super-civilizations like the Culture and stuff than the IoM. Book Forerunners would deploy so fast though slipspace that the Imperium would lag behind.Terra would be the only planet that would take years to besiege and conquer because...well its Terra. What the Imperium has going for them in standard infantry are flashlight guys against the Warrior-Servants, the Space Marines against the superior numbers of the ancient Prometheans, and their warships are outclassed by the Forerunner battleships. Contender-class AIs would render most of the IoM's naval ships useless and allow the rest of the Forerunner armada to mop the floor...or space with the inferior Imperial ships. This is like comparing the Galactic Empire with United Federation of Planets.Hmm, well that would depend on which universe they decided to fight in.If the forerunners were on the offensive, they'd be in the 40kverse and so they'd either have to ask the eldar very nicely about the webway or they'd be slogging through the warp. Without Gellar fields. That ends well.But giving them the +1 handicap, because they need it, say they had the slipspace FTL advantage - That's all well and good for rapid deployment but then they tend to run into a bit of a problem. The Imperium doesn't give a shit about 98% of the planets in it's Empire, because they are all pretty much expendable.Forge Worlds, Fortress Worlds, Space Marine homeworlds and Terra are the kind of places that count.At any given time the amount of forces defending each of these locations is utterly overwhelming, it takes something like the 3rd war for Armageddon to draw forces away from these locations willingly.The forerunner ships might have some nice fancy stuff going for them, but some of the bigger IoM spacecraft would still batter them to hell and back. Stick a few nova cannons into the fleets and that'll be GG for basically anything in the firing line.Then to take the ground on each planet?Good luck on that one, the IOM has trillions (not exaggerated) of flashlighters and figures vary but around about a million odd space marines. Quite aside from the toys the ad mech roll out to play.Like Cadia for example.13 black crusades and counting.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 07:19:00 PMQuote from: Avatar on October 04, 2015, 07:04:44 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:58:26 PMQuote from: I_IRONMAN_I on October 04, 2015, 06:52:27 PMNo Wankperor.But even with him alive, the Emberor is powered by the faith of people (I believe). And when the Forerunner starts blowing up star systems and blowing up planets, I'm sure that his power will fade as people lose faith.Cry more.The Emperor was a God powered being even before the faith in the Emperor started to supercharge his psychic imprint in the warp.Oh no blowing up a few planets, whatever will the feeble hearted folk of the Imperium do.It's not like the Imperium itself routinely burns entire planets to ashes, detonates their cores and atomises the rubble. Or that every day more and more planets fall to daemonic incursion. Or the Nids. Or the Tau. Or the Eldar Pirates. Or the Necrons. Or the Chaos Marines. Or the Orks.Whatever will they do, they must be quaking at the thought of a few planets, star systems and subsectors being liquidated.His power isn't a malleable thing based on faith points, the accumulated psychic imprint of the entire species has created a warp entity in the form of the Emperor which is at the same time the Emperor. Killing a few trillion humans won't do jack shit in 40k.Forerunners are closer to super-civilizations like the Culture and stuff than the IoM. Book Forerunners would deploy so fast though slipspace that the Imperium would lag behind.Terra would be the only planet that would take years to besiege and conquer because...well its Terra. What the Imperium has going for them in standard infantry are flashlight guys against the Warrior-Servants, the Space Marines against the superior numbers of the ancient Prometheans, and their warships are outclassed by the Forerunner battleships. Contender-class AIs would render most of the IoM's naval ships useless and allow the rest of the Forerunner armada to mop the floor...or space with the inferior Imperial ships. This is like comparing the Galactic Empire with United Federation of Planets.Hmm, well that would depend on which universe they decided to fight in.If the forerunners were on the offensive, they'd be in the 40kverse and so they'd either have to ask the eldar very nicely about the webway or they'd be slogging through the warp. Without Gellar fields. That ends well.But giving them the +1 handicap, because they need it, say they had the slipspace FTL advantage - That's all well and good for rapid deployment but then they tend to run into a bit of a problem. The Imperium doesn't give a shit about 98% of the planets in it's Empire, because they are all pretty much expendable.Forge Worlds, Fortress Worlds, Space Marine homeworlds and Terra are the kind of places that count.At any given time the amount of forces defending each of these locations is utterly overwhelming, it takes something like the 3rd war for Armageddon to draw forces away from these locations willingly.The forerunner ships might have some nice fancy stuff going for them, but some of the bigger IoM spacecraft would still batter them to hell and back. Stick a few nova cannons into the fleets and that'll be GG for basically anything in the firing line.Then to take the ground on each planet?Good luck on that one, the IOM has trillions (not exaggerated) of flashlighters and figures vary but around about a million odd space marines. Quite aside from the toys the ad mech roll out to play.Like Cadia for example.13 black crusades and counting.I think that the Eldar would allow them, since you know...fuck the humans right? lolWell, then the Forerunners would have to wisely use their AIs, Strategos and military leaders who have served for thousands of years. But if it were fleet against fleet, the IoM side would be annihilated. Wiping out planet after planet would be a severe waste of resources, and the Forerunners would use some other type of offensive plans.