Quote from: Nexus on October 19, 2015, 11:34:43 PM

Nothing is impossible with science.

unless its wrong

Love, Tars. Love.

Personally I think the most realistic scenario is one in which we develop AI and "humanity" lives on as artificial intelligence, at which point it is significantly easier for human intelligence to spread through space because of reduced energy requirements, etc.

lets not develop AI pls

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I think that only makes the inevitable human conquest of space all the more impressive. To think that we'll have to be able to be able to engineer a ship and society that could collectively survive a mission spanning centuries, it's somthing to strive for.

Inevitable. . .

Hardly, we're struggling fam. If some people were to have their way we'd stay here and stagnate or even just kill ourselves.

Scientific knowledge and engineering capabilities are like entropy, their increase is inevitable and unavoidable. Even if we don't personally live to see significant space advancements, people aren't going to give up on it without being completely lobotomized. Have some faith.

Well, actually, the farther we get along, the bigger the hurdles are going to get. There's only so far you can go before your scientific progress begins to stagnate because the hurdles get so much more massive in scale.

I'd actually say, that due to entropy, we'll reach a point were our technology can go no further due to the constricting limits of our universal laws. The successful climb up a never ending hill won't last forever.

We're gonna conquer this motherfukin galaxy, Sandy, and that's final!

Na. We might touch down on a few bodies in our solar system. But without the ability to "move" faster than light we'll never see anything beyond our solar system.

Think of all the resources that could be potentially wasted if you built slow moving colony ships meant for the long haul? Sent to a star system only to find nothing.

The odds aren't good. Anything using conventional propulsion will never make the grade.

>has never heard of percolative drift

I have not.

Even still. To make any sort of colony ship it would have to have an inexaustable power supply, renewable resources, and be capable of tanking just about anything space could throw at it to damage it.

The size, scope, and technical details required are immense.

And we're not even counting what human nature does over time if this was a long journey that was generation based rather than sleep based.

I'm not talking about sending colony ships. We're talking a glacial crawl out from the inner solar system. Outer solar system colonies can get resources from the moons and gassy planets themselves. Then into the kuiper belt taking advantage of water, and organic (ie carbon) compounds contained within in those objects. Most astronomers, to my knowledge, figure that the interstellar medium is similarly occupied and it may be a simple*(read not actually simple) campaign of  hopping between extreme outer solar system objects into another system.

Actually this is more akin to glacial drift than percolative drift.

I'm not saying it's inevitable just don't write it off out of hand.

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Quote from: Nexus on October 19, 2015, 11:34:43 PM

Nothing is impossible with science.

unless its wrong

Get aborted.

but its true, our definition of physics could be wrong and that we're looking in the wrong places. thats what scares me. if something big doesnt add up, then what exactly do we even know?

This is why absolute faith in human knowledge is flawed, we get proven wrong and we don't know everything

That's the central premise of science.

Let's not get into this.

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I think that only makes the inevitable human conquest of space all the more impressive. To think that we'll have to be able to be able to engineer a ship and society that could collectively survive a mission spanning centuries, it's somthing to strive for.

Inevitable. . .

Hardly, we're struggling fam. If some people were to have their way we'd stay here and stagnate or even just kill ourselves.

Scientific knowledge and engineering capabilities are like entropy, their increase is inevitable and unavoidable. Even if we don't personally live to see significant space advancements, people aren't going to give up on it without being completely lobotomized. Have some faith.

Well, actually, the farther we get along, the bigger the hurdles are going to get. There's only so far you can go before your scientific progress begins to stagnate because the hurdles get so much more massive in scale.

I'd actually say, that due to entropy, we'll reach a point were our technology can go no further due to the constricting limits of our universal laws. The successful climb up a never ending hill won't last forever.

We're gonna conquer this motherfukin galaxy, Sandy, and that's final!

Na. We might touch down on a few bodies in our solar system. But without the ability to "move" faster than light we'll never see anything beyond our solar system.

Think of all the resources that could be potentially wasted if you built slow moving colony ships meant for the long haul? Sent to a star system only to find nothing.

The odds aren't good. Anything using conventional propulsion will never make the grade.

>has never heard of percolative drift

I have not.

Even still. To make any sort of colony ship it would have to have an inexaustable power supply, renewable resources, and be capable of tanking just about anything space could throw at it to damage it.

The size, scope, and technical details required are immense.

And we're not even counting what human nature does over time if this was a long journey that was generation based rather than sleep based.

I'm not talking about sending colony ships. We're talking a glacial crawl out from the inner solar system. Outer solar system colonies can get resources from the moons and gassy planets themselves. Then into the kuiper belt taking advantage of water, and organic (ie carbon) compounds contained within in those objects. Most astronomers, to my knowledge, figure that the interstellar medium is similarly occupied and it may be a simple*(read not actually simple) campaign of  hopping between extreme outer solar system objects into another system.

Actually this is more akin to glacial drift than percolative drift.

I'm not saying it's inevitable just don't write it off out of hand.

Welp, I'm gonna write it off out of hand.

Let's not get into this.

no u

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Quote from: Cadenza on October 19, 2015, 11:34:40 PM

I think that only makes the inevitable human conquest of space all the more impressive. To think that we'll have to be able to be able to engineer a ship and society that could collectively survive a mission spanning centuries, it's somthing to strive for.

Inevitable. . .

Hardly, we're struggling fam. If some people were to have their way we'd stay here and stagnate or even just kill ourselves.

Scientific knowledge and engineering capabilities are like entropy, their increase is inevitable and unavoidable. Even if we don't personally live to see significant space advancements, people aren't going to give up on it without being completely lobotomized. Have some faith.

Well, actually, the farther we get along, the bigger the hurdles are going to get. There's only so far you can go before your scientific progress begins to stagnate because the hurdles get so much more massive in scale.

I'd actually say, that due to entropy, we'll reach a point were our technology can go no further due to the constricting limits of our universal laws. The successful climb up a never ending hill won't last forever.

We're gonna conquer this motherfukin galaxy, Sandy, and that's final!

Na. We might touch down on a few bodies in our solar system. But without the ability to "move" faster than light we'll never see anything beyond our solar system.

Think of all the resources that could be potentially wasted if you built slow moving colony ships meant for the long haul? Sent to a star system only to find nothing.

The odds aren't good. Anything using conventional propulsion will never make the grade.

>has never heard of percolative drift

I have not.

Even still. To make any sort of colony ship it would have to have an inexaustable power supply, renewable resources, and be capable of tanking just about anything space could throw at it to damage it.

The size, scope, and technical details required are immense.

And we're not even counting what human nature does over time if this was a long journey that was generation based rather than sleep based.

I'm not talking about sending colony ships. We're talking a glacial crawl out from the inner solar system. Outer solar system colonies can get resources from the moons and gassy planets themselves. Then into the kuiper belt taking advantage of water, and organic (ie carbon) compounds contained within in those objects. Most astronomers, to my knowledge, figure that the interstellar medium is similarly occupied and it may be a simple*(read not actually simple) campaign of  hopping between extreme outer solar system objects into another system.

Actually this is more akin to glacial drift than percolative drift.

I'm not saying it's inevitable just don't write it off out of hand.

Welp, I'm gonna write it off out of hand.

I'm gonna write you off you cheeky cunt

Kinky.