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I see people complaining about the way Yoda acted in TLJ, how his more 'jokey' personality was just an act to trick Luke, and it ruined him by making him act like that again.

Is anyone else... really not bothered at all by it? Like yeah Yoda could be deadly serious, but who's to say he could never be genuinely cheeky and more relaxed when he wanted to be? Is he supposed to be 100% serious ALL the time? If he wants to have fun, let him.


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I see people complaining about the way Yoda acted in TLJ, how his more 'jokey' personality was just an act to trick Luke, and it ruined him by making him act like that again.

Is anyone else... really not bothered at all by it? Like yeah Yoda could be deadly serious, but who's to say he could never be genuinely cheeky and more relaxed when he wanted to be? Is he supposed to be 100% serious ALL the time? If he wants to have fun, let him.

I don't see why people would be put off by it. Especially since he showed that side of himself to varying degrees all throughout Clone Wars.

Honestly what bothered me with that scene was how unconvincing the puppet was, when they managed to pull it off well enough all those years ago. It's actually worst than the one in the Phantom Mennace


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Canto Blight on what is otherwise a mostly pretty good movie.


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It sounds like people wanted Luke to be a plot device and not an actual character

I think SW fans wanted EU Luke, some jedi grandmaster that had a hot jedi wife and a bunch of cool jedi buddies and was now a wise old dude like Obi Wan.

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A plot device.

I won't lie, I became a little sad that things turn out so poorly for Luke, but the character himself, and the circumstances he was in, were far more interesting than their EU counterparts set during the same time frame.

I think people's main gripe is that this version of luke is so radically different, and that the comedy(like the lightsaber tossing) appeared to be a lack of respect or reverence for the history of the character or franchise. What could've been a strong emotional moment was just slapstick.


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Luke Skywalker does not appear in this movie, instead we get a grumpy old nut that just looks like an old Luke.

It's not that I wanted some badass EU Luke with a hot Jedi wife and lots of Jedi buddies, I just wanted the same Luke that I saw in the OT. A Luke that developed more, not regressed and threw away everything he learned. He was a role model in the OT; he never gave up, never abandoned his friends, always brought out the best in people and always had a solution to a problem. Even after everyone else had given up on his father, Luke was able to bring him back. He threw away his lightsaber, his only weapon in front of the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy because he still thought he could turn Vader back to the light.

In here he immediately goes straight to thinking about killing Ben because he had a premonition that he MIGHT become evil. This leads to a hilariously bad awkward situation where what Kylo does is completely justifiable in self defense, and instead of trying to mend his mistakes he becomes a grumpy old man who completely gives up without even trying. "You think I came to the most hidden planet in the galaxy to be found?" well yeah, you kinda left a map you asshole.


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I just wanted the same Luke that I saw in the OT. A Luke that developed more, not regressed and threw away everything he learned.

He's 30 years older, and had failed as a jedi, leading to disaster; it's almost exactly the same character arc as Obi Wan. Why would you want to see a flawless character with nothing to overcome? That's all he ever was in the EU, and it's good TLJ changed that.


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I didn't say I wanted flawless EU Luke, I wanted OT Luke. Luke sure as shit wasn't flawless in the OT.

He's 30 years older, and had failed as a jedi, leading to disaster; it's almost exactly the same character arc as Obi Wan. Why would you want to see a flawless character with nothing to overcome? That's all he ever was in the EU, and it's good TLJ changed that.


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Still haven't seen it. Is it still SJW stuff?


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Still haven't seen it. Is it still SJW stuff?

Absolutely. At one point Luke says the Jedi Order failed because it was run by men. Then Rey goes on monologue about Trump and why white people need to end.



On another note, have you ever contributed anything to any thread on this site? I know you're an alt or at least not genuine, but sometimes parody accounts are funny. You aren't. Your posts are nonmedy; if I am smiling and in a good mood, and I read one of your posts, I find that my smile is gone.
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Still haven't seen it. Is it still SJW stuff?

Absolutely. At one point Luke says the Jedi Order failed because it was run by men. Then Rey goes on monologue about Trump and why white people need to end.



On another note, have you ever contributed anything to any thread on this site? I know you're an alt or at least not genuine, but sometimes parody accounts are funny. You aren't. Your posts are nonmedy; if I am smiling and in a good mood, and I read one of your posts, I find that my smile is gone.
I'm attacked when I'm being genuine like right now.


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Still haven't seen it. Is it still SJW stuff?

Absolutely. At one point Luke says the Jedi Order failed because it was run by men. Then Rey goes on monologue about Trump and why white people need to end.



On another note, have you ever contributed anything to any thread on this site? I know you're an alt or at least not genuine, but sometimes parody accounts are funny. You aren't. Your posts are nonmedy; if I am smiling and in a good mood, and I read one of your posts, I find that my smile is gone.
I'm attacked when I'm being genuine like right now.
who are you


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
I decided to watch Rogue One for the second time, to see if I'd actually like it more...

...and it fucking sucked. It was shot really nice, but the characters were so fucking bland and the plot was so boring I actually fell asleep for like 5 minutes during the space battle. Do people seriously consider this the best one?


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I see people complaining about the way Yoda acted in TLJ, how his more 'jokey' personality was just an act to trick Luke, and it ruined him by making him act like that again.

Is anyone else... really not bothered at all by it? Like yeah Yoda could be deadly serious, but who's to say he could never be genuinely cheeky and more relaxed when he wanted to be? Is he supposed to be 100% serious ALL the time? If he wants to have fun, let him.

Yoda looked like a crackhead


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I decided to watch Rogue One for the second time, to see if I'd actually like it more...

...and it fucking sucked. It was shot really nice, but the characters were so fucking bland and the plot was so boring I actually fell asleep for like 5 minutes during the space battle. Do people seriously consider this the best one?
I only like the space battle really, and Scariff is alright i guess


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
I decided to watch Rogue One for the second time, to see if I'd actually like it more...

...and it fucking sucked. It was shot really nice, but the characters were so fucking bland and the plot was so boring I actually fell asleep for like 5 minutes during the space battle. Do people seriously consider this the best one?
I only like the space battle really, and Scariff is alright i guess

The space battle was so good I fell asleep


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Rogue One is unironically my favourite nuwars


 
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so, i just got back from TLJ

this was very very good, guys

i think this is probably my new favorite star wars movie

time to read 10 pages worth of your pitiful opinions about it


 
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at the forefront, i have absolutely no fucking idea why this movie seems to be getting such mixed reception

this was everything i wanted in a star wars movie


 
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at the forefront, i have absolutely no fucking idea why this movie seems to be getting such mixed reception

this was everything i wanted in a star wars movie
I imagine you liked the subversion of the general Star Wars tropes?


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so, i just got back from TLJ

this was very very good, guys

i think this is probably my new favorite star wars movie

time to read 10 pages worth of your pitiful opinions about it
I've been hearing the opposite. Nobody thought it was good from friends and family.


 
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so, i just got back from TLJ

this was very very good, guys

i think this is probably my new favorite star wars movie

time to read 10 pages worth of your pitiful opinions about it
I've been hearing the opposite. Nobody thought it was good from friends and family.
that's because all your friends and family are fucking idiots


 
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What did you think of Super-Leia?

And the completely pointless Finn sidequest
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Really stupid. Just like half the other things in the movie. The predictable hail mary in the opening fight.
 The fact that every important character comes close to dying but doesn't. (Leia in space, Poe with the explosion in the hangar, Finn with the execution, Rose with the speeder, Rey with Snoke). The "don't attack what you hate, save what you love". The everyone knows Luke is going to train her but let's spend the first half of the movie on her trying to convince him. The "wow we got locked up with a master code cracker just when we needed one?". The "wow it's the little kid who's going through the exact same thing Rose went through who now just happens to be where they're escaping". The "wow they're about to be arrested or killed when somehow BB8 and hackerman just so know where they are". The comic relief reactions when almost killed and the fate of the entire galaxy seems doomed but haha this is a natural response. The entire "our guns aren't accurate enough, we're just too slow and they're just too fast so we'll just do this for the next 18 hours" bullshit. And so, so much more.

Don't get me wrong, there was really good stuff too. The overall sound, visuals, action and plot. Finn and Rose meeting. The Rey + Kylo and Snoke moment. The admiral's plan and Finn's reaction / character development. Kylo becoming the Supreme Leader. Rey's parents actually being nobodies (subject to change, of course). But the bad stuff was so eye-rollingly bad that it actually annoyed me.
i highlighted the only things that matter in red

the things that only half-mattered are highlighted in yellow
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LMAO what the fuck
What did you think

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Super Leia lmfao
you've dedicated several posts to this thing that's not really a big deal

it was a little bit corny sure but welcome to star wars


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I can see now why people didn't like this movie.


 
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Now a lot of critics are saying TLJ is the best, even better than Empire.
I really can't understand how professional critics are saying this.
i can

i guess that's why you're not a professional critic


 
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holy shit this movie sucked

literally step above attack of the clones
ahahahaha kill yourself


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I can see now why people didn't like this movie.

Cheat, can you send this guy and Loaf's IPs to some dark-web hitmen and save us all a ton of problems.


 
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But then there's shit like Snoke dying like a fucking nobody
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this never happened

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All of the different moments where they could have committed to something that pulls the rug out from under you but didn't are very obvious and I would've applauded them had they fully gone through with each and everyone but they don't, they copped out every time. Rey venturing to the dark side, KILLING fucking Leia, Rey going with Kylo's plan, killing Finn (that would've made the movie an instant 10/10), Kylo turning back to Ben, they could've done any of these things but chose not too. I hope they're lack of action on these was more caused by spending too much fucking time with the damn cruiser chase.
god all of those ideas are awful lmao


 
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the movie was too quippy.
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not really

there was like one, MAYBE two inappropriate jokes, and i can't even remember what they were