Quote from: CyberGama on December 21, 2015, 11:29:05 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 21, 2015, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: CyberGama on December 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 21, 2015, 11:08:56 PMQuote from: CyberGama on December 21, 2015, 11:07:35 PMI'm curious as to how Rian Johnson is going to handle the direction of Star Wars Ep. VIII.Very well hopefully.Lets just hope it's not "The Empire Strikes Back 2.0"That's the main trick right now. Keep the train rolling from 7 but keep it off the OT rails.But thats another critic issue I have with Ep. 7, it's literally a new hope 2.0, thats not being original at all, why couldn't they do something different? "Oh but the prequels did it different" thats called taking a new approach, its not bad if its done right. The prequels did an awful job (well minus Ep. 3, decent but not great) is because of George Lucas, if it was a different director (like J.J Abram) to direct the prequels with better writing and story, then my complaint for the prequels will be wiped away. There are times where taking a different approach isn't necessary, however sometimes taking a different approach isn't the main issue, it's how you handle it.Yea I agree. Strange that J.J. isn't doing the next one though.
Quote from: TBlocks on December 21, 2015, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: CyberGama on December 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 21, 2015, 11:08:56 PMQuote from: CyberGama on December 21, 2015, 11:07:35 PMI'm curious as to how Rian Johnson is going to handle the direction of Star Wars Ep. VIII.Very well hopefully.Lets just hope it's not "The Empire Strikes Back 2.0"That's the main trick right now. Keep the train rolling from 7 but keep it off the OT rails.But thats another critic issue I have with Ep. 7, it's literally a new hope 2.0, thats not being original at all, why couldn't they do something different? "Oh but the prequels did it different" thats called taking a new approach, its not bad if its done right. The prequels did an awful job (well minus Ep. 3, decent but not great) is because of George Lucas, if it was a different director (like J.J Abram) to direct the prequels with better writing and story, then my complaint for the prequels will be wiped away. There are times where taking a different approach isn't necessary, however sometimes taking a different approach isn't the main issue, it's how you handle it.
Quote from: CyberGama on December 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 21, 2015, 11:08:56 PMQuote from: CyberGama on December 21, 2015, 11:07:35 PMI'm curious as to how Rian Johnson is going to handle the direction of Star Wars Ep. VIII.Very well hopefully.Lets just hope it's not "The Empire Strikes Back 2.0"That's the main trick right now. Keep the train rolling from 7 but keep it off the OT rails.
Quote from: TBlocks on December 21, 2015, 11:08:56 PMQuote from: CyberGama on December 21, 2015, 11:07:35 PMI'm curious as to how Rian Johnson is going to handle the direction of Star Wars Ep. VIII.Very well hopefully.Lets just hope it's not "The Empire Strikes Back 2.0"
Quote from: CyberGama on December 21, 2015, 11:07:35 PMI'm curious as to how Rian Johnson is going to handle the direction of Star Wars Ep. VIII.Very well hopefully.
I'm curious as to how Rian Johnson is going to handle the direction of Star Wars Ep. VIII.
Also, is there any idea if those five planets destroyed by Starkiller were important, or were they just a demonstration target?
Quote from: The Turkey Awakens on December 21, 2015, 11:37:17 PMAlso, is there any idea if those five planets destroyed by Starkiller were important, or were they just a demonstration target?No clueThe main complaint with that movie (I loved it) was the lack of exposition. I hope episode 8 explains a few things. The strength of the Alliance, the New Order, the planets, and various other things.Seriously, it lacked that, but I can see why since this movie was basically establishing a lot of things
VII wasn't even A New Hope 2.0, it was OT 2.0; it had many elements from the whole trilogy. ANH was itself a pretty standard hero's journey atory, so it's not hard to see repeated elements in the Star Wars universe.Also, is there any idea if those five planets destroyed by Starkiller were important, or were they just a demonstration target?
Well the OT never discussed any of that, either, and the exposition they had (every conversation between Han and Leia was pure exposition) was pretty forced.
FUCKJust realized a missed opportunity. Han's last words should have been "I'll see you in Hell"
Quote from: Jolly Rocket on December 21, 2015, 11:52:02 PMFUCKJust realized a missed opportunity. Han's last words should have been "I'll see you in Hell"Completely goes against the motions he did. Didn't you catch how even when he was dying he still cupped his sons cheek gently?He still loved him, just like Obi-Wan still loved Vader somewhat when he 'killed' him (I still don't get that crap). It'll obviously play a huge part of his character in the coming movies.
Quote from: Luciana on December 21, 2015, 11:54:53 PMQuote from: Jolly Rocket on December 21, 2015, 11:52:02 PMFUCKJust realized a missed opportunity. Han's last words should have been "I'll see you in Hell"Completely goes against the motions he did. Didn't you catch how even when he was dying he still cupped his sons cheek gently?He still loved him, just like Obi-Wan still loved Vader somewhat when he 'killed' him (I still don't get that crap). It'll obviously play a huge part of his character in the coming movies.For some reason that particular motion really got to me.It was... powerful.
I was not moved by that scene at all. Maybe it's just because I knew what was going to happen, but I mean, anyone with a brain could've seen what was going to happen as soon as Han yelled "Ben!"It actually felt kind of cheesy, tbh. I'm seeing it again in IMAX on Friday so maybe I'll appreciate it more then.
Quote from: Luciana on December 21, 2015, 11:54:53 PMQuote from: Jolly Rocket on December 21, 2015, 11:52:02 PMFUCKJust realized a missed opportunity. Han's last words should have been "I'll see you in Hell"Completely goes against the motions he did. Didn't you catch how even when he was dying he still cupped his sons cheek gently?He still loved him, just like Obi-Wan still loved Vader somewhat when he 'killed' him (I still don't get that crap). It'll obviously play a huge part of his character in the coming movies.I know he tried to save his son and all that, but Han Solo could have went out differently. Failed to save his son, then gave his life to save his friends.
Quote from: Jolly Rocket on December 22, 2015, 12:22:11 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 21, 2015, 11:54:53 PMQuote from: Jolly Rocket on December 21, 2015, 11:52:02 PMFUCKJust realized a missed opportunity. Han's last words should have been "I'll see you in Hell"Completely goes against the motions he did. Didn't you catch how even when he was dying he still cupped his sons cheek gently?He still loved him, just like Obi-Wan still loved Vader somewhat when he 'killed' him (I still don't get that crap). It'll obviously play a huge part of his character in the coming movies.I know he tried to save his son and all that, but Han Solo could have went out differently. Failed to save his son, then gave his life to save his friends.Eh, I liked it. It's supposed to highlight Kylo Rens turning to the DAAARK SIIIDE
Quote from: Luciana on December 22, 2015, 12:27:48 AMQuote from: Jolly Rocket on December 22, 2015, 12:22:11 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 21, 2015, 11:54:53 PMQuote from: Jolly Rocket on December 21, 2015, 11:52:02 PMFUCKJust realized a missed opportunity. Han's last words should have been "I'll see you in Hell"Completely goes against the motions he did. Didn't you catch how even when he was dying he still cupped his sons cheek gently?He still loved him, just like Obi-Wan still loved Vader somewhat when he 'killed' him (I still don't get that crap). It'll obviously play a huge part of his character in the coming movies.I know he tried to save his son and all that, but Han Solo could have went out differently. Failed to save his son, then gave his life to save his friends.Eh, I liked it. It's supposed to highlight Kylo Rens turning to the DAAARK SIIIDEYeah a few pages ago I explained the same thing basically
Heart of coal...
Quote from: TBlocks on December 22, 2015, 12:17:39 AMHeart of coal...Hey, if you wanna talk about emotional/powerful moments in Star Wars, I'm game. But that wasn't one of them.
Quote from: NiggerBot 9000 on December 21, 2015, 10:52:07 AMThe movie was a huge disappointment. Too many plot holes, bad writing, some shitty characters, inconsistencies, and totally Disney-fied to the point it doesn't even feel like Star Wars.The originals had more of a Disney feel to them than the new one did. Dunno how the new characters were that bad either really, and the writing wasn't terrible. It was basically a soft reboot to get things back to normal. I don't even know what that means "Disney-fied".
The movie was a huge disappointment. Too many plot holes, bad writing, some shitty characters, inconsistencies, and totally Disney-fied to the point it doesn't even feel like Star Wars.
Quote from: Luciana on December 21, 2015, 11:34:40 AMQuote from: NiggerBot 9000 on December 21, 2015, 10:52:07 AMThe movie was a huge disappointment. Too many plot holes, bad writing, some shitty characters, inconsistencies, and totally Disney-fied to the point it doesn't even feel like Star Wars.The originals had more of a Disney feel to them than the new one did. Dunno how the new characters were that bad either really, and the writing wasn't terrible. It was basically a soft reboot to get things back to normal. I don't even know what that means "Disney-fied".The movie was bad for many reasons, too many which I care to explain at this time. But I will explain in thorough detail why it's bad later.
Subjective.
But sure, since it's sharing time say the biggest one for you.
Quote from: TBlocks on December 22, 2015, 01:01:17 AMSubjective."But that's just my opinion."
In A New Hope, just after Luke fires the missiles into the Death Star's exhaust port. There's a good 5-15 seconds of pure music, leading up to the final explosion of the Death Star. Beautifully presented. Followed by a moment of pure euphoria as Han runs up to Luke and the two give the most brotherly hug of happiness ever. Brings me to tears.In Empire Strikes Back. This one should be obvious. "I love you." "I know." This might actually be the most powerful moment, now that I think about it.And finally, in Return of the Jedi, when Vader is taunting Luke on the Death Star. He brings up Leia, and Luke just loses it. His pure, unadulterated anger as he mindlessly swings and slams his saber into Vader's, paired with William's brilliant score. You can just feel the Dark Side winning. And then finally, Vader falls, and loses his arm. Luke sees the prosthetic limb, and as he looks at his own, he's reminded what he's fighting for. "You failed, your Highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me."Just off the top of my head. Notice how there's nothing from Attack of the Clones, AKA the worst movie.
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