I'm just so glad the force-sensitive character was Rey and not Donkey Kong. That would've royally pissed me off.Also, why could Rey/Finn hold their own against a trained force-user like Kilo Ren with a lightsaber?
Quote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:06:11 PMWhy are people congratulating a mary-sue (Rey) and saying it's good writing?im curious, how do you see her as a mary sue?
Why are people congratulating a mary-sue (Rey) and saying it's good writing?
Quote from: Comet on December 19, 2015, 12:25:20 PMQuote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:06:11 PMWhy are people congratulating a mary-sue (Rey) and saying it's good writing?im curious, how do you see her as a mary sue?I'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.
Quote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:06:11 PMWhy are people congratulating a mary-sue (Rey) and saying it's good writing?Holy shit get out.
Quote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:42:09 PMQuote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:06:11 PMWhy are people congratulating a mary-sue (Rey) and saying it's good writing?Holy shit get out.no criticism allowed
I'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.
Quote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:42:52 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:42:09 PMQuote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:06:11 PMWhy are people congratulating a mary-sue (Rey) and saying it's good writing?Holy shit get out.no criticism allowedI'm kidding of course. But I still disagree with you.
Quote from: Snowtrap on December 19, 2015, 12:29:33 PMI'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.point for sandy
Quote from: Comet on December 19, 2015, 12:45:01 PMQuote from: Snowtrap on December 19, 2015, 12:29:33 PMI'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.point for sandyI'm gonna chalk that point up to a little theory of her being the secret daughter of a really powerful Jedi.
Quote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:46:34 PMQuote from: Comet on December 19, 2015, 12:45:01 PMQuote from: Snowtrap on December 19, 2015, 12:29:33 PMI'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.point for sandyI'm gonna chalk that point up to a little theory of her being the secret daughter of a really powerful Jedi.Anakin was space Jesus and even he didn't master it that quickly.
Quote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:49:47 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:46:34 PMQuote from: Comet on December 19, 2015, 12:45:01 PMQuote from: Snowtrap on December 19, 2015, 12:29:33 PMI'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.point for sandyI'm gonna chalk that point up to a little theory of her being the secret daughter of a really powerful Jedi.Anakin was space Jesus and even he didn't master it that quickly.I do sort of see where you're coming fromAnakin was also a whiny bitch who was clouded by anger (and the prequels.)
Quote from: Ganon on December 19, 2015, 09:52:51 AMI'm just so glad the force-sensitive character was Rey and not Donkey Kong. That would've royally pissed me off.Also, why could Rey/Finn hold their own against a trained force-user like Kilo Ren with a lightsaber?At least for Rey - Kylo probably had emotional stress from killing Han, he'd been shot in the chest by a Bowcaster that was blowing Stormtroopers back and Finn got in a pretty decent hit. Plus experience with a melee weapon already.I mean she basically hit a win switch when she closed her eyes and channeled the force, but I didn't find it completely unbelievable
Quote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:52:23 PMQuote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:49:47 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:46:34 PMQuote from: Comet on December 19, 2015, 12:45:01 PMQuote from: Snowtrap on December 19, 2015, 12:29:33 PMI'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.point for sandyI'm gonna chalk that point up to a little theory of her being the secret daughter of a really powerful Jedi.Anakin was space Jesus and even he didn't master it that quickly.I do sort of see where you're coming fromAnakin was also a whiny bitch who was clouded by anger (and the prequels.)Luke was the son of space Jesus and didn't master it that quickly.
Quote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:53:16 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:52:23 PMQuote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:49:47 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:46:34 PMQuote from: Comet on December 19, 2015, 12:45:01 PMQuote from: Snowtrap on December 19, 2015, 12:29:33 PMI'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.point for sandyI'm gonna chalk that point up to a little theory of her being the secret daughter of a really powerful Jedi.Anakin was space Jesus and even he didn't master it that quickly.I do sort of see where you're coming fromAnakin was also a whiny bitch who was clouded by anger (and the prequels.)Luke was the son of space Jesus and didn't master it that quickly.He was never given the chance to though. And in the first couple minutes of him being with Obi Wan on the Falcon he was blocking laser shots blindfolded really quickly.
Masters the force in only a few hours when it took Luke and Space Jesus three films to do it.
Is also better than them when it comes to using the force seeing as she can mind trick storm troopers without even looking at them, using her hand to help her concentrate, or even being told that she can do that kind of thing.
Is able to beat a trained sith despite having no training with a light saber
Quote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:55:47 PMQuote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:53:16 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:52:23 PMQuote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:49:47 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:46:34 PMQuote from: Comet on December 19, 2015, 12:45:01 PMQuote from: Snowtrap on December 19, 2015, 12:29:33 PMI'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.point for sandyI'm gonna chalk that point up to a little theory of her being the secret daughter of a really powerful Jedi.Anakin was space Jesus and even he didn't master it that quickly.I do sort of see where you're coming fromAnakin was also a whiny bitch who was clouded by anger (and the prequels.)Luke was the son of space Jesus and didn't master it that quickly.He was never given the chance to though. And in the first couple minutes of him being with Obi Wan on the Falcon he was blocking laser shots blindfolded really quickly.Blocking shots isn't even remotely comparable to beating a highly trained Sith
The only parallel to IV that really bothers me is the star killer. It's the same fucking thing as the death star, they couldn't be a little more creative?
she can mind trick storm troopers without even looking at them, using her hand to help her concentrate, or even being told that she can do that kind of thing.
Is able to beat a trained sith despite having no training with a light saber,
knows more about the millennium falcon than Han Solo
can pilot a starship better than a trained fighter pilot despite never having been offworld, has no character flaws or personality flaws, et cetera et cetera
Ben smacked his shit around even after being injured.
Quote from: Lemnator on December 19, 2015, 01:00:01 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:55:47 PMQuote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:53:16 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:52:23 PMQuote from: LC on December 19, 2015, 12:49:47 PMQuote from: TBlocks on December 19, 2015, 12:46:34 PMQuote from: Comet on December 19, 2015, 12:45:01 PMQuote from: Snowtrap on December 19, 2015, 12:29:33 PMI'd put money down on it being her quick grasp of the force.point for sandyI'm gonna chalk that point up to a little theory of her being the secret daughter of a really powerful Jedi.Anakin was space Jesus and even he didn't master it that quickly.I do sort of see where you're coming fromAnakin was also a whiny bitch who was clouded by anger (and the prequels.)Luke was the son of space Jesus and didn't master it that quickly.He was never given the chance to though. And in the first couple minutes of him being with Obi Wan on the Falcon he was blocking laser shots blindfolded really quickly.Blocking shots isn't even remotely comparable to beating a highly trained SithFor some reason Ren didn't strike me as the "highly trained Sith" type. He looked very much like Anakin when he was angry. Very emotionally driven, clouded by confusion, and incomplete as a Sith. Like hell he was even telling Snoke about his light side feelings. That indicated to me that he's far from a Sith master or even a Sith in general. If you catch my drift.
Quote from: Azumarill on December 19, 2015, 01:03:41 PMBen smacked his shit around even after being injured.Not the impression I got. Yeah, Finn did get lose, but it wasn't a colossal ass-beating like Sidious versus all the Jedi except Mace in Ep. 3 like I think you're trying to make it out to be. He was able to get some damage on him. That constitutes "holding your own" in my book.
It's Kylo, not Kilo.It bugs me.
Quote from: Lemnator on December 19, 2015, 01:09:26 PMIt's Kylo, not Kilo.It bugs me.Bringing back repressed memories of the Kilo 5 trilogy?
I'd have to see it again to use specifics but it was pretty clear to me that Ben had the upper hand the entire time. Finn held him off for a bit- and again, I must stress that Ben took a blast from Chewy in his torso and was in great pain- but Finn never really stood a chance regardless.
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