Let's talk about Jon Snow

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So I'm actually starting to think he's legitimately dead, at least his human body. He's a skinchanger so he definitely became Ghost when he died, but it's known that skinchangers lose the ability to warg when their body dies; they live out their life as the animal, with just a faint memory of their past life.

Let's look at how GRRM resurrects main characters: Catelyn Stark becomes Lady Stoneheart, playing a relatively small role, enacting revenge for her family's murder; The Hound finds peace tending to the dead at Quiet Isle monastery; The Mountain becomes a Frankenstein's monster-type soldier.

Each time a character is brought back, it's because they were important enough to deserve a bit more than just death and in doing so, their character arc is better resolved. Of course Melisandre could revive him, though I think we're starting to see that her power and interpretation of events is often a sham. And what purpose does Jon serve? Is he going to rally the Night's Watch and stop the invasion? Nope, the Wall will fall, and the White Walkers are gonna fuck shit up. They have to; that's the overarching conflict of the series, and is ultimately going to bring the characters together and decide which faction ends up on top.

I have no doubt that the GoT producers could successfully cover up Jon's resurrection, but I just don't think it's going to happen in any plot-defining manner.


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What about him? He's dead as FUCK


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The clues scattered throughout the books are too many. He's coming back, and he'll meet up with Dany and she'll give him his own dragon and they'll beat the whitewalkers. Then they'll kill Ramsay and Jon will stay at Winterfell with his dragon and marry Ygritte (Melisandre brings her back too that's part of the deal) and Dany will go to King's Landing and


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Gurrm has explicitly stated that Jon is one of the five or so characters that A Song of Ice and Fire revolves around. It'd be weird for him to just sever his story arc so prematurely. He's good at inverting tropes, not disregarding integral plot points.

As for the show, D&D are just hacks.
Last Edit: June 21, 2015, 03:09:43 PM by Madman Mordo


 
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But really I don't care if he's dead in the show because they dropped fuck all hints about him warging.


 
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What is warging and how does one warg?


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What is warging and how does one warg?

Mind-jack a nearby creature and take control of it. The Starks and others were known to do it. That was like the whole point of Bran. In the last book it was heavily hinted at Jon learning how to Warg, though the show didn't allude to it at all.
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What is warging and how does one warg?

He can take control of animals. For the wargs in the book, when they die they kind of float around and take over whatever animals they have a strong connection to nearby. So presumably when Jon died and said "Ghost", he took over Ghost and is living in that body. But the power is linked to their body; they can die as an animal but if their human body dies, they're stuck.
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That's kind if neat.

Maybe once they're done I'll read these dang books.