Good movie dragged down by it's need to recreate A New Hope and a weak main character (Rey).
Quote from: Incan on December 20, 2015, 04:01:02 AMGood movie dragged down by it's need to recreate A New Hope and a weak main character (Rey).Also, where does Rey even learn the force? It's like she finds out it exists and isn't just a fairy tale,then all of a sudden she's just an expert using it and a lightsaber. No training or anything.
Quote from: space boy on December 20, 2015, 04:18:52 AMQuote from: Incan on December 20, 2015, 04:01:02 AMGood movie dragged down by it's need to recreate A New Hope and a weak main character (Rey).Also, where does Rey even learn the force? It's like she finds out it exists and isn't just a fairy tale,then all of a sudden she's just an expert using it and a lightsaber. No training or anything.Luke in Ep 4 blocked a few blaster shots from that training ball thing and used the Force to help him destroy the Death Star when he barely had any training at all.
Also, where does Rey even learn the force? It's like she finds out it exists and isn't just a fairy tale,then all of a sudden she's just an expert using it and a lightsaber. No training or anything.
Quote from: space boy on December 20, 2015, 04:18:52 AMAlso, where does Rey even learn the force? It's like she finds out it exists and isn't just a fairy tale,then all of a sudden she's just an expert using it and a lightsaber. No training or anything.It's implied that Rey is far more in tune with the force than Kylo is. Not to mention that Kylo had just killed off a character that had been close to him, distorting his focus over the force or whatever.
I want to marry Daisy Ridley
Quote from: Jono on December 20, 2015, 04:21:29 AMQuote from: space boy on December 20, 2015, 04:18:52 AMQuote from: Incan on December 20, 2015, 04:01:02 AMGood movie dragged down by it's need to recreate A New Hope and a weak main character (Rey).Also, where does Rey even learn the force? It's like she finds out it exists and isn't just a fairy tale,then all of a sudden she's just an expert using it and a lightsaber. No training or anything.Luke in Ep 4 blocked a few blaster shots from that training ball thing and used the Force to help him destroy the Death Star when he barely had any training at all.At least he got taught to use a lightsaber. And even then, it took him like, three years of training before he was able to fight an experienced bladesman and not get utterly destroyed. My problem, however, comes from how she's in captivity and just decides to try a mind trick. Despite only having found out the force existed about twenty minutes ago, she just decides to use a mind trick on the off-chance it happens to work. Luke had to be told by kenobi to trust in the force. If the spooky ghost didn't talk to him, he'd have just used his computer.
-Where are the Y-Wing bombers, the fleets and other spacecraft? Sending one squadron of X-Wings to take on multiple star destroyers, wings of TIE fighters and a fucking planet thing seems way too much like putting all the eggs in one basket. -Honestly, the film never really slows down to explain anything. Like how powerful the First Order and Republic are. I really hope them and the resistance aren't played out as rebels and empire 2.0 but I feel they are
Quote from: space boy on December 19, 2015, 11:19:06 PM-Where are the Y-Wing bombers, the fleets and other spacecraft? Sending one squadron of X-Wings to take on multiple star destroyers, wings of TIE fighters and a fucking planet thing seems way too much like putting all the eggs in one basket. -Honestly, the film never really slows down to explain anything. Like how powerful the First Order and Republic are. I really hope them and the resistance aren't played out as rebels and empire 2.0 but I feel they areyeah they were like "oh they shot down two of our x-wings, thats half our fleet" there was a "WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN HALF?" moment.
Quote from: Incan on December 20, 2015, 04:01:02 AMGood movie dragged down by it's need to recreate A New Hope and a weak main character (Rey).Doesn't help that Ridley's performance was amazing. The film should've just been about Po Dameron and Finn, really. Both were far more interesting characters and the dynamic going on between them never really got explored much.Also, where does Rey even learn the force? It's like she finds out it exists and isn't just a fairy tale,then all of a sudden she's just an expert using it and a lightsaber. No training or anything.
I've seen it three times now, it is nearly perfect.
Quote from: RomanGladiator on December 20, 2015, 05:32:26 AMI've seen it three times now, it is nearly perfect.Far from it.
Quote from: Fagcicle on December 20, 2015, 06:57:52 PMQuote from: RomanGladiator on December 20, 2015, 05:32:26 AMI've seen it three times now, it is nearly perfect.Far from it.Think of how you felt after seeing that ending scene. Did it not give you hope for where the franchise could go and what's to come?