Interesting. I would disagree with Kylo being a wannabe Sith though. In the trailer he definitely seems to be exemplifying some sort of force ability. I think the reason why his lightsaber is so half assed is because the knowledge and ability to construct lightsabers was lost with Darth Vader and Luke, what with him being the last Jedi and all.

A big problem is that the rebels are apparently still a resistance group according to one of the plaques at the convention.

It's been like 40 years since the fall of the empire and they sti haven't formed a new republic.

If you look at real-life examples this is not uncommon. The rebel group usually fails to establish a government and a new dictatorship/oppressive regime arises. Now think of it on a galactic scale.

I actually want more scenes with the Stormtroopers as characters. In the other films they only really showed up as faceless mooks doing bad guy stuff. That's why I'm really interested in the new one because it seems Captain Phasma is gonna get up to interesting stuff.

Interesting. I would disagree with Kylo being a wannabe Sith though. In the trailer he definitely seems to be exemplifying some sort of force ability. I think the reason why his lightsaber is so half assed is because the knowledge and ability to construct lightsabers was lost with Darth Vader and Luke, what with him being the last Jedi and all.

He's definitely a force user, but as he likely had no-one to train him he's not a true Sith.

I just can't take the stormtroopers seriously when they're all making that ridiculous anime cat smile face.

Yeah those helmets blow, there was nothing wrong with the ones they already had. Those things look like anime convention props. Cheap and plasticy.

Quote from: RomanGladiator on April 17, 2015, 07:44:19 AM

So just some brainstorming...The First Order sounds like trying to revive something from the past, maybe the very first Sith, or how they were in the KOTOR days or even farther back (I know that's not canon now). I'm thinking that Ren is searching for an apprentice he will deem worthy, and it happens to be someone related to Luke, which could only be his son or daughter. And that also makes sense when you think about how obsessed he is with Vader that he would want someone from the same bloodline. At the same time, I feel like as parents Luke, Han and Leia (if they still have kids that is) would not want to abandon their children, but maybe they had to for the sake of the galaxy.

I heard somewhere that the girl (Rey) is Ren's sister. Makes sense, and that's something to remember for further theories.

Also Mark Hamill's voice doesn't sound as gravelly as it does nowadays, I have a feeling in the back of my mind it isn't him narrating it.

I'm pretty sure it is Hamill, and using the audio from RoTJ. I'm thinking if Rey looks too young to be Luke or Han's daughter. This is 30 years after. Maybe she is around 30. I was just brainstorming earlier that Kylo Ren could be Luke's son. Luke tries to train him to become a Jedi, but he fails. He has too much anger. Sooner or later he finds out about Vader and the history of the Empire. He wants that power and authority, so he creates The First Order. He delves into the history of the Sith and we see him go around collecting artifacts and visiting locations from the original trilogy.

This couldn't happen in the span of the movie obviously, but it eventually is revealed that he is a fallen padawan and Luke's son. To buildup the First Order must have taken quite some time.

Ren wants to turn Rey. Imagine the drama. Luke dueling with his own son to save his daughter from turning to the Dark Side. Or I can also see Rey being Leia and Han's daughter. Either way Kylo Ren wants her because of how strong in the force she is. The Chrome Trooper is also force sensitive and is basically Kylo Ren's hound to locate Rey.

Imagine things with Luke coming full circle. He is now fighting his own son just like Vader, but the sides are reversed. Father on the light side, son on the dark. Ren is a madman that causes the galaxy to plunge into chaos once again after a brief period of peace. Luke feels responsible, which would explain the rumors that say he's in exile at the beginning of the film.

First Order, Third Reich, it's all the same

Quote from: Big Boss on April 17, 2015, 07:51:28 AM

Quote from: RomanGladiator on April 17, 2015, 07:44:19 AM

So just some brainstorming...The First Order sounds like trying to revive something from the past, maybe the very first Sith, or how they were in the KOTOR days or even farther back (I know that's not canon now). I'm thinking that Ren is searching for an apprentice he will deem worthy, and it happens to be someone related to Luke, which could only be his son or daughter. And that also makes sense when you think about how obsessed he is with Vader that he would want someone from the same bloodline. At the same time, I feel like as parents Luke, Han and Leia (if they still have kids that is) would not want to abandon their children, but maybe they had to for the sake of the galaxy.

I heard somewhere that the girl (Rey) is Ren's sister. Makes sense, and that's something to remember for further theories.

Also Mark Hamill's voice doesn't sound as gravelly as it does nowadays, I have a feeling in the back of my mind it isn't him narrating it.

I'm pretty sure it is Hamill, and using the audio from RoTJ. I'm thinking if Rey looks too young to be Luke or Han's daughter. This is 30 years after. Maybe she is around 30. I was just brainstorming earlier that Kylo Ren could be Luke's son. Luke tries to train him to become a Jedi, but he fails. He has too much anger. Sooner or later he finds out about Vader and the history of the Empire. He wants that power and authority, so he creates The First Order. He delves into the history of the Sith and we see him go around collecting artifacts and visiting locations from the original trilogy.

This couldn't happen in the span of the movie obviously, but it eventually is revealed that he is a fallen padawan and Luke's son. To buildup the First Order must have taken quite some time.

Ren wants to turn Rey. Imagine the drama. Luke dueling with his own son to save his daughter from turning to the Dark Side. Or I can also see Rey being Leia and Han's daughter. Either way Kylo Ren wants her because of how strong in the force she is. The Chrome Trooper is also force sensitive and is basically Kylo Ren's hound to locate Rey.

Imagine things with Luke coming full circle. He is now fighting his own son just like Vader, but the sides are reversed. Father on the light side, son on the dark. Ren is a madman that causes the galaxy to plunge into chaos once again after a brief period of peace. Luke feels responsible, which would explain the rumors that say he's in exile at the beginning of the film.

Captain Phasma (chrome trooper) has a Wampa-claw hilt Lightsaber, and is inspired by an unused Mcquarrie concept so I'm expecting to see a saber fight between her and Finn.

Huh, guess that Snowtrooper image from a while ago was real...

Quote from: Big Boss on April 17, 2015, 07:24:50 PM

Huh, guess that Snowtrooper image from a while ago was real...

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