Yes, Secondclass, that is what Loaf is trying to say with this thread
Political correctness isn't a bad thing
Does that mean I get to go scream the word nigger at the nearest black person?
Quote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 04:32:52 PMPolitical correctness isn't a bad thingYou mean like when that one guy saw half a dozen suspicious Muslims in San Bernardino prior to the shooting but didn't say anything because he didn't want to be racially insensitive
Quote from: Dissonance on April 30, 2016, 06:22:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 04:32:52 PMPolitical correctness isn't a bad thingYou mean like when that one guy saw half a dozen suspicious Muslims in San Bernardino prior to the shooting but didn't say anything because he didn't want to be racially insensitiveIf someone called the police every time they saw a group of Middle Eastern looking people, do you think that would be a net gain for society?Hindsight is 20/20. For every terrorist attack you stop using this method, you would have wrongfully jailed hundreds of thousands more and wasted countless hours of police time.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 06:30:48 PMQuote from: Dissonance on April 30, 2016, 06:22:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 04:32:52 PMPolitical correctness isn't a bad thingYou mean like when that one guy saw half a dozen suspicious Muslims in San Bernardino prior to the shooting but didn't say anything because he didn't want to be racially insensitiveIf someone called the police every time they saw a group of Middle Eastern looking people, do you think that would be a net gain for society?Hindsight is 20/20. For every terrorist attack you stop using this method, you would have wrongfully jailed hundreds of thousands more and wasted countless hours of police time.Did you think I meant that we should call the police whenever we see Iraqis walking down the street or something?Key word here is suspiciousAnd we would jail hundreds of thousands of innocent people?You do realize the police don't automatically lock up people who are reported suspicious right? The point is that the man chose to withhold information because he didn't want people thinking that he was a bad person People are literally turning a blind eye to rational thinking solely because of raceYou don't think that's a problem?
Quote from: Dissonance on April 30, 2016, 06:44:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 06:30:48 PMQuote from: Dissonance on April 30, 2016, 06:22:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 04:32:52 PMPolitical correctness isn't a bad thingYou mean like when that one guy saw half a dozen suspicious Muslims in San Bernardino prior to the shooting but didn't say anything because he didn't want to be racially insensitiveIf someone called the police every time they saw a group of Middle Eastern looking people, do you think that would be a net gain for society?Hindsight is 20/20. For every terrorist attack you stop using this method, you would have wrongfully jailed hundreds of thousands more and wasted countless hours of police time.Did you think I meant that we should call the police whenever we see Iraqis walking down the street or something?Key word here is suspiciousAnd we would jail hundreds of thousands of innocent people?You do realize the police don't automatically lock up people who are reported suspicious right? The point is that the man chose to withhold information because he didn't want people thinking that he was a bad person People are literally turning a blind eye to rational thinking solely because of raceYou don't think that's a problem?"Suspicious" literally means their ethnicity here. He should have done exactly what he did, because at the time, all he saw was a group of foreigners. It's far from "rational thinking" to call the cops because a group of sketchy Muslims is walking down the street. If he saw a group of people holding a bomb, then he should of course call the police regardless of their race.
Seeing a group of Muslims casing a place over a period of several weeks is reason enough
Ethnicity is reason for suspicion
But let's just pretend Islam presents no risk to the west because we're good and fair minded people right In fact if someone is a Muslim, we should go out of our way to not imply them in anything or god forbid people might think we're racially profiling
Quote from: Dissonance on April 30, 2016, 06:57:50 PMSeeing a group of Muslims casing a place over a period of several weeks is reason enoughNo, seeing a group of people casing a joint over a period of several weeks is reason enough.They're casing a joint. That's suspicious regardless of your fucking religion or ethnicity. I see where you're coming from when you make this argument, but it's still wrong.
I love how you make up fake viewpoints that no one believes in to look smart.How about don't treat Arabic people any differently from Caucasian people? Is that such a ridiculous opinion?
Quote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 07:04:27 PMI love how you make up fake viewpoints that no one believes in to look smart.How about don't treat Arabic people any differently from Caucasian people? Is that such a ridiculous opinion?What fake viewpoint am I making up?That people tend to look the other way specially because of race?Because I assure you that people doOf course I'm for fair treatment of allI'm not racistBut ignoring clear facts and circumstances in the name of equality is stupid
Quote from: Dissonance on April 30, 2016, 07:10:57 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 07:04:27 PMI love how you make up fake viewpoints that no one believes in to look smart.How about don't treat Arabic people any differently from Caucasian people? Is that such a ridiculous opinion?What fake viewpoint am I making up?That people tend to look the other way specially because of race?Because I assure you that people doOf course I'm for fair treatment of allI'm not racistBut ignoring clear facts and circumstances in the name of equality is stupidFor every college liberal who thinks that Muslims can do no wrong, there are three old ladies who are calling the cops because a Muslim teenager is walking along the sidewalk. Both are issues, but the second is far more prevalent and important.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 07:12:56 PMQuote from: Dissonance on April 30, 2016, 07:10:57 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 30, 2016, 07:04:27 PMI love how you make up fake viewpoints that no one believes in to look smart.How about don't treat Arabic people any differently from Caucasian people? Is that such a ridiculous opinion?What fake viewpoint am I making up?That people tend to look the other way specially because of race?Because I assure you that people doOf course I'm for fair treatment of allI'm not racistBut ignoring clear facts and circumstances in the name of equality is stupidFor every college liberal who thinks that Muslims can do no wrong, there are three old ladies who are calling the cops because a Muslim teenager is walking along the sidewalk. Both are issues, but the second is far more prevalent and important.You wanna give me some statistics on that?Because I have some that are in direct opposition of thatEspecially for when the person is black
Statistics on what, racism? I can assure you that once you leave the PC bubble in big cities, college campuses, and the Internet, people are just as concerned about race, but in the opposite direction.
How do you quantify a held mindset? You can't take an "are you racist" poll honestly.You're the one who's making the positive assertion that there's more anti-racism against Muslims than racism. Where are your "statistics" to back that up?