Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 05, 2015, 09:19:26 PMYeah, they didn't have to make them fuck. That was the only part that I didn't like.Yes they did. Jenny is supposed to be hated more than the cast of the Great Gatsby.
Yeah, they didn't have to make them fuck. That was the only part that I didn't like.
Who gives a shit? Retarded people can still consent to things, you idiot. How the hell was that rape? Get over yourself and your terrible social opinions manstick to science or whatever
Lieutenant Dan is actually the best character though.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:21:52 PMWho gives a shit? Retarded people can still consent to things, you idiot. How the hell was that rape? Get over yourself and your terrible social opinions manstick to science or whateverI never said retarded people couldn't consent to things, but it depends on how intellectually impaired the guy was; they never really say.
Quote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:25:40 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:21:52 PMWho gives a shit? Retarded people can still consent to things, you idiot. How the hell was that rape? Get over yourself and your terrible social opinions manstick to science or whateverI never said retarded people couldn't consent to things, but it depends on how intellectually impaired the guy was; they never really say. They actually mention early on that he has an IQ of below 75, if that means anything.Sorry, I know my Forrest Gump.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:21:52 PMWho gives a shit? Retarded people can still consent to things, you idiot. How the hell was that rape? Get over yourself and your terrible social opinions manstick to science or whateverI never said retarded people couldn't consent to things, but it depends on how intellectually impaired the guy was; they never really say. If he really can't make good judgement calls then, well, yeah, it's basically rape. I don't feel remotely out of line for feeling uncomfortable after watching a mentally retarded many get made love to by a terrible girl who emotionally abused him since her teenage years. That's messed up.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 05, 2015, 09:25:03 PMLieutenant Dan is actually the best character though.Are you kidding? I love Gary Sinise, but Dan was such an annoying and unlikable character.
Quote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:25:40 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:21:52 PMWho gives a shit? Retarded people can still consent to things, you idiot. How the hell was that rape? Get over yourself and your terrible social opinions manstick to science or whateverI never said retarded people couldn't consent to things, but it depends on how intellectually impaired the guy was; they never really say. If he really can't make good judgement calls then, well, yeah, it's basically rape. I don't feel remotely out of line for feeling uncomfortable after watching a mentally retarded many get made love to by a terrible girl who emotionally abused him since her teenage years. That's messed up."Emotionally abused" What the fuck? And no, even if you have an extremely low IQ and are physically capable of making a decision, that's your decision. You can't deny someone sex because they have a low IQ, that's ridiculous. If you're capable of giving consent to write a check, you're capable of giving consent to have sex.
If you're capable of giving consent to write a check, you're capable of giving consent to have sex.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:26:36 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 05, 2015, 09:25:03 PMLieutenant Dan is actually the best character though.Are you kidding? I love Gary Sinise, but Dan was such an annoying and unlikable character.Why, because he was kind of a jerk? That's what makes him so likable. He was Forrest's foil.
Quote If you're capable of giving consent to write a check, you're capable of giving consent to have sex.Yeah, because one definitely doesn't have much more significant consequences than the other. Like, oh, I don't know, having a fucking child.
Quote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:29:37 PMQuote If you're capable of giving consent to write a check, you're capable of giving consent to have sex.Yeah, because one definitely doesn't have much more significant consequences than the other. Like, oh, I don't know, having a fucking child.So? That literally doesn't matter in the slightest, capability is capability. No one, no matter their IQ, should be barred from doing something to their own body that an able-minded person is allowed to do. That's not only immoral, it's discrimination.
All he did was complain about shit
Jenny at least did things. I don't see why everyone hates her. She did drugs and fell in love with a retarded guy. Boo hoo. Oh, and she had sex with the guy she loved. Big deal.
The movie quite obviously has anti-drug undertones, so if you didn't catch onto that, that's on you, I guess. You're not supposed to have a passive attitude towards her debaucherous lifestyle--you can feel sympathetic, because she had a fucked up upbringing, but passive is just the incorrect response.
and she didn't really do any bad things outside of that, so her character is fine in my eyes.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:39:02 PMand she didn't really do any bad things outside of that, so her character is fine in my eyes.>Had sex with retarded man>Ran away>Had retarded man's kid>Didn't tell him she had his kidShe was scum lol
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 05, 2015, 09:35:38 PMThe movie quite obviously has anti-drug undertones, so if you didn't catch onto that, that's on you, I guess. You're not supposed to have a passive attitude towards her debaucherous lifestyle--you can feel sympathetic, because she had a fucked up upbringing, but passive is just the incorrect response.Yeah, that shit was pretty heavy-handed, which is one reason why I have no disdain for Jenny. Her drug use is a literal non issue for me, and she didn't really do any bad things outside of that, so her character is fine in my eyes. Unlike Lt. Dan. Complainers are the most annoying character to me. I don't care that he was a cynic, but all he did was whine about his life the whole movie. Forrest really, really should've let him die like he wanted. It would've been a drastic improvement.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:39:02 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 05, 2015, 09:35:38 PMThe movie quite obviously has anti-drug undertones, so if you didn't catch onto that, that's on you, I guess. You're not supposed to have a passive attitude towards her debaucherous lifestyle--you can feel sympathetic, because she had a fucked up upbringing, but passive is just the incorrect response.Yeah, that shit was pretty heavy-handed, which is one reason why I have no disdain for Jenny. Her drug use is a literal non issue for me, and she didn't really do any bad things outside of that, so her character is fine in my eyes. Unlike Lt. Dan. Complainers are the most annoying character to me. I don't care that he was a cynic, but all he did was whine about his life the whole movie. Forrest really, really should've let him die like he wanted. It would've been a drastic improvement.Well, then the theme of "fuck destiny--follow your own path" would've been lost, as well as the what-good-is-life-if-you-have-nothing-to-live-for theme.
Quote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:41:16 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:39:02 PMand she didn't really do any bad things outside of that, so her character is fine in my eyes.>Had sex with retarded man>Ran away>Had retarded man's kid>Didn't tell him she had his kidShe was scum lolTake away "retarded" from all of those lines and you have a pretty standard character who just made some bad decisions. Like I said earlier, the fact that Forrest is retarded has absolutely no bearing here.
Take away "retarded" from all of those lines and you have a pretty standard character who just made some bad decisions. Like I said earlier, the fact that Forrest is retarded has absolutely no bearing here.
Taking away the fact that she had sex with someone who was intellectually impaired and therefore probably incapable of understanding what was going on and the potential outcome of it, that still leaves a character who ditched the man she loved and ran way with his child. That's not, "Some bad decisions." That's disgusting.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:43:49 PMTake away "retarded" from all of those lines and you have a pretty standard character who just made some bad decisions. Like I said earlier, the fact that Forrest is retarded has absolutely no bearing here.Considering having a retarded man's kid is probably one of the worst things you could ever do, yeah, I'd say it has bearing. It's great that the kid didn't end up impaired, but that doesn't at all alleviate the sheer stupidity of her choice.
Quote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:48:50 PMTaking away the fact that she had sex with someone who was intellectually impaired and therefore probably incapable of understanding what was going on and the potential outcome of it, that still leaves a character who ditched the man she loved and ran way with his child. That's not, "Some bad decisions." That's disgusting.a mother leaving some guy she fucked and raising the kid on her own isn't some huge immoral thing.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 05, 2015, 09:48:59 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:43:49 PMTake away "retarded" from all of those lines and you have a pretty standard character who just made some bad decisions. Like I said earlier, the fact that Forrest is retarded has absolutely no bearing here.Considering having a retarded man's kid is probably one of the worst things you could ever do, yeah, I'd say it has bearing. It's great that the kid didn't end up impaired, but that doesn't at all alleviate the sheer stupidity of her choice.Didn't she also have AIDS?
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:50:29 PMQuote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:48:50 PMTaking away the fact that she had sex with someone who was intellectually impaired and therefore probably incapable of understanding what was going on and the potential outcome of it, that still leaves a character who ditched the man she loved and ran way with his child. That's not, "Some bad decisions." That's disgusting.a mother leaving some guy she fucked and raising the kid on her own isn't some huge immoral thing.What universe do you live in?
Quote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:51:43 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:50:29 PMQuote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:48:50 PMTaking away the fact that she had sex with someone who was intellectually impaired and therefore probably incapable of understanding what was going on and the potential outcome of it, that still leaves a character who ditched the man she loved and ran way with his child. That's not, "Some bad decisions." That's disgusting.a mother leaving some guy she fucked and raising the kid on her own isn't some huge immoral thing.What universe do you live in?Same one as you, buddy. The father has less right to the kid than the mom.
You don't have a kid with someone who is genetically at-risk.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:53:10 PMQuote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:51:43 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 05, 2015, 09:50:29 PMQuote from: Winy on October 05, 2015, 09:48:50 PMTaking away the fact that she had sex with someone who was intellectually impaired and therefore probably incapable of understanding what was going on and the potential outcome of it, that still leaves a character who ditched the man she loved and ran way with his child. That's not, "Some bad decisions." That's disgusting.a mother leaving some guy she fucked and raising the kid on her own isn't some huge immoral thing.What universe do you live in?Same one as you, buddy. The father has less right to the kid than the mom.That's ridiculous. If some chick banged you and had your child, then ran away without telling you that you got her pregnant, would you be pissed? I fucking would. That kid is half of me, I deserve to know what happens to him, or if he exists. That just further backs up my argument that her banging a retarded many was messed up to begin with- He didn't understand what was going on and why.
Since When Did People Start Hating On Forrest Grump?
