Quote from: Luciana on June 11, 2017, 12:25:49 AMI enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.
I enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.
yeah, revert to nonexistence
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:28:57 AMQuote from: Luciana on June 11, 2017, 12:25:49 AMI enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.you guys have been my OTP since like 2015
Quote from: Annie on June 11, 2017, 12:28:09 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:23:42 AMso lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sensethe "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any wayBut that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.yeah, revert to nonexistencerighti need to know if we're on the same page
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:23:42 AMso lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sensethe "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any wayBut that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.
so lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.
i'm literally all anecdotes here but, i drive more than that daily i don't spend more than 60 a week on gas, and my truck is an old 6 cylinder so imagine how much better a somewhat modern 4 cylinder would be like.
doesn't really address what i said about working for 5 years to help pay for stuff. and of course a job where you're moving around bricks and shit is going to have higher rates of injuries in comparison to packing up a cheeseburger and handing it through a window.the whole suicide thing should be pretty constant no matter where you're working, though.
i mean, that's compariable to living in a toronto appartment, so are you guys in a big city or something
canada's housing market isn't fantastic either but i don't know how it fares in comparison to yours. i'm basing this all on my own experience, i don't have time to do anything else.
i guess there's not much more to say, then.
I still disagree that tumblr/first world problems people are annoying thoughI'm never going to be annoyed by you if you're right, no matter how well or terribly you present yourself about it
Quote from: Verbatim on June 11, 2017, 12:30:18 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:28:57 AMQuote from: Luciana on June 11, 2017, 12:25:49 AMI enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.you guys have been my OTP since like 2015OTP?
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:29:51 AMyeah, revert to nonexistencedeath
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:31:10 AMQuote from: Verbatim on June 11, 2017, 12:30:18 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:28:57 AMQuote from: Luciana on June 11, 2017, 12:25:49 AMI enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.you guys have been my OTP since like 2015OTP?shipping term, one true pairingi'm half-joking
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:29:51 AMQuote from: Annie on June 11, 2017, 12:28:09 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:23:42 AMso lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sensethe "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any wayBut that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.yeah, revert to nonexistencerighti need to know if we're on the same pageif you can't decipher which one I believe makes more sense from the tone and context of the post then I'm not going to help you lol
Quote from: Verbatim on June 11, 2017, 12:31:08 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:29:51 AMyeah, revert to nonexistencedeathone of his two options was reverft to nonexistence
i don't really think it's fair to compare issues like that, though.i'm actualy really tired and we're having like 12 different conversations right now so i'm not sure where i'm going with this one lol
I drive a car with 300k miles on it and that uses premium gas. So yeah.
And the article literally says that the suicide rate is double the general population.
Here's a website that shows the cost differences for various things between Canada and the US, including living expenses.
I'm glad that you're living (relatively to others in the same generation) well. I don't think it's wrong to think many of our generation complain about mild inconveniences while living in relative luxury. My issue is the idea that we're wrong for being upset about conditions out of our control.
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:33:14 AMQuote from: Verbatim on June 11, 2017, 12:31:08 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:29:51 AMyeah, revert to nonexistencedeathone of his two options was reverft to nonexistenceyeah, i interpret that as deathnot necessarily suicide, but doing what you need to do on this planet and then reverting to nonexistence (dying) when your time here is upโand hopefully the mark you made will have made the planet an ever so slightly better place to live in
well i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off. though statistically, the main reason the reproduction rate is going down in first worlds in because they don't want to bring people into this messed up world, which is encouraging.
what i meant was that you will probably want to kill yourself no matter what job you're at lol
well i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off.
also as far as the hedonic treadmill goes, i don't think people in the futureโwhose biggest worries will hopefully be what to wear the next day, or what kind of present to give your best friend for his birthdayโi honestly don't think these people, while they may be unhappy about trivial stuff, i don't think they will fail to appreciate that their problems are indeed trivial compared to poverty and starvationi have perspective enough to know that, despite my shit life, things could be a lot shittier, and i yearn for future generations to have a life where all they have to complain about is frivolityi WANT that
Quote from: Annie on June 11, 2017, 12:31:33 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:29:51 AMQuote from: Annie on June 11, 2017, 12:28:09 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:23:42 AMso lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sensethe "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any wayBut that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.yeah, revert to nonexistencerighti need to know if we're on the same pageif you can't decipher which one I believe makes more sense from the tone and context of the post then I'm not going to help you lolcut me some slack man i've been working since 7 this morning and i've ad like 300 conversatins with just you in this thread so i can't keep tracki'm assuming you mean revertng to non-existence is the more realistic goal we should strive for
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:39:54 AMwell i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off. though statistically, the main reason the reproduction rate is going down in first worlds in because they don't want to bring people into this messed up world, which is encouraging.actually aria is like a cunt hair away from being an anti-natalist herselfi don't want to speak for her, but i can just feel it in my bunions
yeah but i still wouldn't say that these people, despite their appreciation for a life without starvation and poverty, will be happier than you are now.like we can understand how shitty polio was but it doesn't make us happier.
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:35:00 AMQuote from: Annie on June 11, 2017, 12:31:33 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:29:51 AMQuote from: Annie on June 11, 2017, 12:28:09 AMQuote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:23:42 AMso lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sensethe "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any wayBut that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.yeah, revert to nonexistencerighti need to know if we're on the same pageif you can't decipher which one I believe makes more sense from the tone and context of the post then I'm not going to help you lolcut me some slack man i've been working since 7 this morning and i've ad like 300 conversatins with just you in this thread so i can't keep tracki'm assuming you mean revertng to non-existence is the more realistic goal we should strive foryes lolbut not on a personal level - anyone can just kill themselveson a personal level, happiness (which there is no such thing as an "artificial" kind - just short-term and long-term) is the ultimate goal
jacob is/has/never will be funny tho
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:39:54 AMwhat i meant was that you will probably want to kill yourself no matter what job you're at lolI will (because of issues unrelated to work), but I'd rather avoid a job that would push me over the line of suicide.QuoteHere's a website that shows the cost differences for various things between Canada and the US, including living expenses.Yeah, so not really comparable then.Quotewell i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off. I do. It's a little hard to while working minimum wage, trying to find an apartment with friends/associates, and dealing with bills and expenses. Maybe when I'm 29 and a year from killing myself, my votes for local/state/federal government will pay off and my house representative will actually act on my behalf.
Quote from: Kakashi555 on June 11, 2017, 12:45:26 AMyeah but i still wouldn't say that these people, despite their appreciation for a life without starvation and poverty, will be happier than you are now.like we can understand how shitty polio was but it doesn't make us happier.i disagreeyou have no idea how humbled i am by the fact that i'm not tiptoeing around landmines right now
If I could guarantee a happy life, I would have kids. But I can't; at most, I'll adopt.
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