Spoiler Saw Batman V Superman again.

 
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I figured out why I was having a hard time gauging the movie's quality. When Snyder does something good, it's really good -- but for everything he gets right, he gets 3 things so wrong. This dichotomy confused the hell out of me.

For example, he'll create a fantastic fight sequence that, visually, looks so fucking cool, thanks to the cinematography and costumes. But then he'll do something stupid like make a guard in the background just stand there with his weapon and watch Batman beat up his friends, or make a misc. henchman pull out a fucking FRAG GRENADE instead of using his fully functional G36 to shoot him. Just small, dumb decisions that are present in abundance.

It's really heartbreaking to dislike this movie because when I see Ben Affleck and Cavill besides each other, in their respective suits, something inside me just gets so giddy -- it's not like Marvel, where they helped make characters like Iron Man and Thor cool with their movies (both characters were pretty unpopular before the MCU); Batman and Superman were cool and popular beforehand, and seeing them up there, together, looking so... authentic, is just amazing. It took them 3 movies to get Captain America's suit right -- Snyder only needed one.

It just sucks that everything else pretty much blows ass.


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Superheroes are the new zombies. It's getting so overdone.


 
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Superheroes are the new zombies. It's getting so overdone.

Comics have been around for 60+ years, not sure how they haven't already been "overdone".

This meme needs to die before it even lives. Just because WB doesn't know what their doing doesn't mean they should go away.


 
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Superheroes are the new zombies. It's getting so overdone.
There's no end in sight, either. There's already, like, 30+ more superhero movies coming out in the next five years.

Makes me want to throw up.


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Superheroes are the new zombies. It's getting so overdone.
There's no end in sight, either. There's already, like, 30+ more superhero movies coming out in the next five years.

Makes me want to throw up.
good meme


 
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Superheroes are the new zombies. It's getting so overdone.
There's no end in sight, either. There's already, like, 30+ more superhero movies coming out in the next five years.

Makes me want to throw up.
good meme
It's a fact.


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Superheroes are the new zombies. It's getting so overdone.
There's no end in sight, either. There's already, like, 30+ more superhero movies coming out in the next five years.

Makes me want to throw up.
good meme
It's a fact.
oh i know

i'm super excited


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Superheroes are the new zombies. It's getting so overdone.

Comics have been around for 60+ years, not sure how they haven't already been "overdone".

This meme needs to die before it even lives. Just because WB doesn't know what their doing doesn't mean they should go away.
Don't try to deny there's been a huge resurgence of superhero movies and media lately. It's getting tedious.


 
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Don't try to deny there's been a huge resurgence of superhero movies and media lately. It's getting tedious.

I don't deny that. I contest the idea that that's a bad thing.

It isn't. Movies are just a new outlet for comics to exist in, similar to video games and animation.


 
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Superhero movies suck and you should feel bad


 
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Superhero movies suck and you should feel bad

why do you need to add "movies" to the end of that

why not just say superheroes suck

why make the distinction


 
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Superhero movies suck and you should feel bad

why do you need to add "movies" to the end of that

why not just say superheroes suck

why make the distinction
i have no issue with superheroes, the comics and some tv shows are pretty good forms of entertainment, the movies however are trash.


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Superhero movies suck and you should feel bad

Hancock is the best superhero movie


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Didn't hate it, but I didn't really like anything about it. Not expecting much for the future of this franchise.

At least Civil War will be amazing.


 
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i have no issue with superheroes, the comics and some tv shows are pretty good forms of entertainment, the movies however are trash.

so then why advocate that they go away

why not advocate that they just try to improve them

seems like it's just popular to hate on them nowadays. marvel's movies have been consistently entertaining.


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
i have no issue with superheroes, the comics and some tv shows are pretty good forms of entertainment, the movies however are trash.

so then why advocate that they go away

why not advocate that they just try to improve them

seems like it's just popular to hate on them nowadays. marvel's movies have been consistently entertaining.
look at what verb said 30 movies over 5 years? it's excessive and blatantly pushed out because they're cash cows   


 
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look at what verb said 30 movies over 5 years? it's excessive and blatantly pushed out because they're cash cows

30 movies over 5 years, divided by 4 different publishers isn't that much. How many movies does Disney publish in a year? Sony? Fox? WB? It's not that ridiculous. Not to mention, many of those are arguably not comic book movies. TMNT? C'mon.

"blatantly pushed out because they're cash cows"

don't go see it, then? let the market decide what should and shouldn't be made.


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look at what verb said 30 movies over 5 years?
Being realistic, some of them can't even really be considered "superhero movies" and several of them are going to get cancelled.


 
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Superhero movies suck and you should feel bad
Hancock is the best superhero movie
The first half was good, but the second half was just fucking dumb.


 
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if you wanna have a conversation on the quality of comic book movies, let's do that. it's something that needs to be done.

but the solution to bad movies isn't to stop making movies -- it's to try and make better movies.


 
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Also, I retract my statement that Batman and Superman's fight is well-justified in the story. It isn't.


 
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Also, I retract my statement that Batman and Superman's fight is well-justified in the story. It isn't.
That's unfortunate.


 
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Also, I retract my statement that Batman and Superman's fight is well-justified in the story. It isn't.
That's unfortunate.

The fight is still well-done, but after I re-watched everything leading up to it... yeah. It makes no sense.


 
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I don't deny that. I contest the idea that that's a bad thing.

It isn't. Movies are just a new outlet for comics to exist in, similar to video games and animation.
Holy shit.
I have no issues with the amount coming out but this point just really clicked with me for some reason...
Like why does there have to be "too much" of something when you're never forced to go see it. If anything it's a good thing because there's more choice for the viewer.

I've generally seen the distinction between movies and most other media forms but in reality there really isn't any...


 
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I've generally seen the distinction between movies and most other media forms but in reality there really isn't any...

Exactly. That's how Kevin Feige (the man behind the entire MCU idea) sees them -- just another avenue for comic book writers to express their stories in.



 
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Like why does there have to be "too much" of something when you're never forced to go see it.
Some people could go a year or two without hearing about anything superhero related. It gets tiring.


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DC and the x men have not been treated with care. If you're going to try and stay close to the comics you have to actually, you know, put in some fucking effort.

The Nolan trilogy worked because he got away from the hokey comic books and focused on the graphic novels.

You can't have gritty realism and corny comic book storylines at the same time. It's either or.


 
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You can't have gritty realism and corny comic book storylines at the same time. It's either or.

To be fair, I don't think that's what Snyder is going for. He's going for over-the-top comic book authenticity.


 
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Like why does there have to be "too much" of something when you're never forced to go see it.
Some people could go a year or two without hearing about anything superhero related. It gets tiring.
Well.... sucks to be the I guess?


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
"let the market decide"

haha yeah the """"market"""" totally not kids and teens which they take advantage of because they'll just get mommy and daddy to take them
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