Spoiler Saw Batman V Superman again.

Elai · March 25, 2016, 12:33:06 PM

I mean... what does the statement "I get tired of superhero movies" even mean for you guys? What do you want the creators to do with that information, stop making movies? Genuinely curious.

Dietrich Six · March 25, 2016, 12:34:11 PM

Quote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 12:27:20 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on March 25, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
You can't have gritty realism and corny comic book storylines at the same time. It's either or.

To be fair, I don't think that's what Snyder is going for. He's going for over-the-top comic book authenticity.

I wasn't speaking specifically about this one as I haven't seen it.

Snyder seems to be putting the cart before the horse though, if he intends on getting the justice league together he shouldn't have had superman already kill someone.

Superman is supposed to remain pure and innocent until the events that less to the disbanding of the justice league.

Elai · March 25, 2016, 12:34:38 PM

Quote from: gatsby on March 25, 2016, 12:32:06 PM

"let the market decide"

haha yeah the """"market"""" totally not kids and teens which they take advantage of because they'll just get mommy and daddy to take them

What would you rather we do? Pass legislation that bars Marvel from releasing more than 1 movie every 2 years?

Elai · March 25, 2016, 12:36:24 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on March 25, 2016, 12:34:11 PM

if he intends on getting the justice league together he shouldn't have had superman already kill someone.

Superman killing Zod in MoS was the ballsiest and most creatively honest part of that entire film. It would've made sense, if they had followed up with it properly in BvS (which they don't.)

Besides, it's perfectly clear that morality is going to play less of a role in the DCCU. You'll understand what I mean come your first viewing of the film.

Edit: Otherwise, I agree with you. I just don't like that critique of MoS, considering I think it was the best part of the film.

gats · March 25, 2016, 12:41:22 PM

Quote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 12:34:38 PM

Quote from: gatsby on March 25, 2016, 12:32:06 PM
"let the market decide"

haha yeah the """"market"""" totally not kids and teens which they take advantage of because they'll just get mommy and daddy to take them

What would you rather we do? Pass legislation that bars Marvel from releasing more than 1 movie every 2 years?

now you're just being stupid

i want producers to create unique movies with interesting plot lines and characters not to follow some corporate model. what I'm trying to say is relatively simple: let superhero films be their own things. the dark knight was a crime thriller that happened to star batman and captain america the winter soldier was a spy espionage film that happened to star captain america, and both films were all the better for it because they took an idea and ran with it, free from the shackles of franchises and corporate interference. neither of these films stick to a producer-approved "model", and they only tick the boxes they want to tick. you can't please everyone, and superhero films need to stop trying to.

Elai · March 25, 2016, 12:42:45 PM

Quote from: gatsby on March 25, 2016, 12:41:22 PM

i want producers to create unique movies with interesting plot lines and characters not to follow some corporate model. what I'm trying to say is relatively simple: let superhero films be their own things. the dark knight was a crime thriller that happened to star batman and captain america the winter soldier was a spy espionage film that happened to star captain america, and both films were all the better for it because they took an idea and ran with it, free from the shackles of franchises and corporate interference. neither of these films stick to a producer-approved "model", and they only tick the boxes they want to tick. you can't please everyone, and superhero films need to stop trying to.

Awesome. I agree with you.

I don't think they should just stop making so many movies, though. I fucking hate Green Lantern but you can bet your ass I wouldn't want them to NOT make a movie for the fans. I just won't see it myself.

BaconShelf · March 25, 2016, 12:53:12 PM

As far as I'm concerned, I'll happily watch Marvel, DC and Fox superhero stuff as long as it keeps me entertained. If it gets to the point like Halo where they're beating a dead horse to keep it around then I'll stop without a moment's hesitation, but right now Marvel's stuff is consistent in quality so whatever. X-Men has been getting better in every iteration since First Class and I've liked the gritty DC stuff.

Doctor Doom · March 25, 2016, 12:55:35 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on March 25, 2016, 12:24:58 PM

You can't have gritty realism and corny comic book storylines at the same time. It's either or.

Grant Morrison's Batman proves otherwise.