Are we all broken on some level, and if so should we try repairing each other to move on? [/color]
Quote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:39:00 PMAre we all broken on some level, and if so should we try repairing each other to move on? [/color]Some people don't want to be repaired though, some prefer to stew in their selves, looking down on others and trying to depress themselves further.
Quote from: Sento on December 16, 2014, 01:41:46 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:39:00 PMAre we all broken on some level, and if so should we try repairing each other to move on? [/color]Some people don't want to be repaired though, some prefer to stew in their selves, looking down on others and trying to depress themselves further.I think this is an awesome starting point. I wonder why we do it, is it self punishment of some kind? What happened to us to make this stream of thought prevalent in interaction?I agree with this sentiment because I can fully relate. I seem bent on stagnation, and I'm not sure why. I think it has to do with attachment, personally. From my childhood I cling to my worst memories. In trying to understand and process them I often wonder if I'm really doing it to move on, or to cement the redundant qualities that prohibit self expansion. I wonder if it's because I ultimately assert that I'm worthless and incapable. The issue is that this isn't how I feel consciously, and I'm afraid it's ingrained in my mind and perhaps my personality. It makes one question if they're doomed. And if they are doomed, what is the point of making a situation better?What do you think?
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I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
Quote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:49:53 PMQuote from: Sento on December 16, 2014, 01:41:46 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:39:00 PMAre we all broken on some level, and if so should we try repairing each other to move on? [/color]Some people don't want to be repaired though, some prefer to stew in their selves, looking down on others and trying to depress themselves further.I think this is an awesome starting point. I wonder why we do it, is it self punishment of some kind? What happened to us to make this stream of thought prevalent in interaction?I agree with this sentiment because I can fully relate. I seem bent on stagnation, and I'm not sure why. I think it has to do with attachment, personally. From my childhood I cling to my worst memories. In trying to understand and process them I often wonder if I'm really doing it to move on, or to cement the redundant qualities that prohibit self expansion. I wonder if it's because I ultimately assert that I'm worthless and incapable. The issue is that this isn't how I feel consciously, and I'm afraid it's ingrained in my mind and perhaps my personality. It makes one question if they're doomed. And if they are doomed, what is the point of making a situation better?What do you think?Apologies, I actually typo'd there.But it still wound up making a point I was going to anyway, so...Some people like self destruction, they also like bringing others down with them.Misery loves company.And the idea of being worthless and giving up is something people like seeing others feel too, as it relieves a tiny bit of pressure to know they aren't the only ones in that situation.
I am very broken, but I try to remain zen.
Quote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.This is a conscientious response. Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.
Quote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:56:17 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.This is a conscientious response. Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.True, but in most of my experiences, it only made the person mad and deny it. I tried helping but they denyed it, so I let them figure out their situation by themselves, until finally they came back to me for help.
Quote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.These are wise words that I'm far too impatient for..Which is why I'll end up ruining things.
Quote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:59:51 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:56:17 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.This is a conscientious response. Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.True, but in most of my experiences, it only made the person mad and deny it. I tried helping but they denyed it, so I let them figure out their situation by themselves, until finally they came back to me for help.Have you thought that perhaps because you showed them you could care that they eventually came back?
Are we all broken on some level
Quote from: Casper on December 16, 2014, 01:56:05 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.These are wise words that I'm far too impatient for..Which is why I'll end up ruining things.Your're trying to help someone out?
QuoteAre we all broken on some levelYes
Yet even if we're all in the gutter, don't we sometimes see the stars and wonder?
Quote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:57:34 PMYet even if we're all in the gutter, don't we sometimes see the stars and wonder?Looking can be nice.But the distance just seems further when you're already on the ground.
Quote from: Sento on December 16, 2014, 02:05:12 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:57:34 PMYet even if we're all in the gutter, don't we sometimes see the stars and wonder?Looking can be nice.But the distance just seems further when you're already on the ground.Should we then endeavor to get up, or remain?
Quote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 02:01:18 PMQuote from: Casper on December 16, 2014, 01:56:05 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.These are wise words that I'm far too impatient for..Which is why I'll end up ruining things.Your're trying to help someone out?Possibly.But I worry a lot, so that doesn't help..
Quote from: Tyger on December 16, 2014, 01:52:55 PMI came here to talk about videogames with my b.net friendsand by "videogames" you mean dark souls
Quote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 02:06:14 PMQuote from: Sento on December 16, 2014, 02:05:12 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:57:34 PMYet even if we're all in the gutter, don't we sometimes see the stars and wonder?Looking can be nice.But the distance just seems further when you're already on the ground.Should we then endeavor to get up, or remain?That depends, something that far would be uncomfortable to those used to the ground.