Quote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 02:01:16 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:59:51 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:56:17 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.This is a conscientious response. Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.True, but in most of my experiences, it only made the person mad and deny it. I tried helping but they denyed it, so I let them figure out their situation by themselves, until finally they came back to me for help.Have you thought that perhaps because you showed them you could care that they eventually came back?Yeah, I mean we should offer them help at first, but if they continue to deny the help, I think we should leave them be, but from the little help you offered they'll know that someone was willing to help them. So maybe that could eventually change their minds, and accept the help.
Quote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:59:51 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:56:17 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.This is a conscientious response. Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.True, but in most of my experiences, it only made the person mad and deny it. I tried helping but they denyed it, so I let them figure out their situation by themselves, until finally they came back to me for help.Have you thought that perhaps because you showed them you could care that they eventually came back?
Quote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:56:17 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.This is a conscientious response. Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.True, but in most of my experiences, it only made the person mad and deny it. I tried helping but they denyed it, so I let them figure out their situation by themselves, until finally they came back to me for help.
Quote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.This is a conscientious response. Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.
I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
Quote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 02:03:07 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 02:01:16 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:59:51 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 01:56:17 PMQuote from: WORKSHOPWIZARD on December 16, 2014, 01:51:48 PMI think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.This is a conscientious response. Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.True, but in most of my experiences, it only made the person mad and deny it. I tried helping but they denyed it, so I let them figure out their situation by themselves, until finally they came back to me for help.Have you thought that perhaps because you showed them you could care that they eventually came back?Yeah, I mean we should offer them help at first, but if they continue to deny the help, I think we should leave them be, but from the little help you offered they'll know that someone was willing to help them. So maybe that could eventually change their minds, and accept the help.And if they're not around later will you in part assume responsibility? If they are dead to ambition will you be a catalyst for their entombed desires?
Quote from: DemonicChronic on December 16, 2014, 01:50:00 PMI am very broken, but I try to remain zen.This is the direction I'm progressing in. How is it working for you?
I am very broken, but I try to remain zen.
Quote from: Ushan on December 16, 2014, 02:03:16 PMQuoteAre we all broken on some levelYesAnd should we do something about it?
QuoteAre we all broken on some levelYes
Are we all broken on some level
Well. Here's the thing amigo. We're not psychologists. We have Mr. Psych who's versed in those fields. Goji is versed in sound judgement. And I know I can read folks like I can books. I can pick them apart, and the more I learn about them, the faster I can do it.But we're not proffessionals. So I'll tell you what this place is. It's a community. We're all generally hurting in some way. And when we are, we come here to talk. Maybe, talk about our problems. Maybe, put on our mask and pretend things are okay.But we're all here because similar folks have a knack for finding one another. We are a community collective. But we can't do much. We're not proffessionals. And we can screw up big time if we ever thought that. The best we can do, is talk to one another.This place is an outpost. A waypoint if you will.It's a stopping point along the way. We come here when we need to. And then we return to our lives and move on as best we can.Did you ever notice, that some members eventually left our numbers? They became rare appearances and eventually, disappeared from sight and mind all together.They didn't leave because they were bored.They left because they were ready.We all have problems. Some are hard to fix. Some will take time to fix. But the best we can do is simply exist as we are now. And, when folks are ready to step up and get back out into the world, they will.And this place, is a waypoint in time for them. Something they can come back to. It's safety. Security. And fond faces reside here. Friends. This place is a shelter.Just a port in the storm. And we'd do our best to remain that way. We talk, and interact and help each other in that way. And when we're ready to get back in the ring, up we go.
Seriously, it's a forum...
Why do you guys take this backwater internet forum so fucking seriously?
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
Are we all broken on some level?
We're a broken people living under loaded gunNow they can't b outfoughtIt can't be outdoneIt can't be outmatchedIt can't be outrun SpoilerI have no idea what you mean by this
Quote from: Sonica on December 16, 2014, 02:15:15 PMSeriously, it's a forum...Snip for emergency discussion >_______>
Quote from: BaconShelf on December 16, 2014, 02:32:10 PMWe're a broken people living under loaded gunNow they can't b outfoughtIt can't be outdoneIt can't be outmatchedIt can't be outrun SpoilerI have no idea what you mean by thisbad album is bad
Quote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:30:14 PMQuote from: Sonica on December 16, 2014, 02:15:15 PMSeriously, it's a forum...Snip for emergency discussion >_______>The fuck is going on here.
Quote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:34:59 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:30:14 PMQuote from: Sonica on December 16, 2014, 02:15:15 PMSeriously, it's a forum...Snip for emergency discussion >_______>The fuck is going on here.You didn't snip it?
Quote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 02:36:07 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:34:59 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:30:14 PMQuote from: Sonica on December 16, 2014, 02:15:15 PMSeriously, it's a forum...Snip for emergency discussion >_______>The fuck is going on here.You didn't snip it?I snipped it out because it unfortunately disclosed several details about users who may not have wished that to have happened. It wasn't anything malign at all, but I'm just erring on the side of caution here. Playing it safe and removing it >.>Sandtrap made a very good point with it though.
Quote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:14:51 PMWell. Here's the thing amigo. We're not psychologists. We have Mr. Psych who's versed in those fields. Goji is versed in sound judgement. And I know I can read folks like I can books. I can pick them apart, and the more I learn about them, the faster I can do it.But we're not proffessionals. So I'll tell you what this place is. It's a community. We're all generally hurting in some way. And when we are, we come here to talk. Maybe, talk about our problems. Maybe, put on our mask and pretend things are okay.But we're all here because similar folks have a knack for finding one another. We are a community collective. But we can't do much. We're not proffessionals. And we can screw up big time if we ever thought that. The best we can do, is talk to one another.This place is an outpost. A waypoint if you will.It's a stopping point along the way. We come here when we need to. And then we return to our lives and move on as best we can.Did you ever notice, that some members eventually left our numbers? They became rare appearances and eventually, disappeared from sight and mind all together.They didn't leave because they were bored.They left because they were ready.We all have problems. Some are hard to fix. Some will take time to fix. But the best we can do is simply exist as we are now. And, when folks are ready to step up and get back out into the world, they will.And this place, is a waypoint in time for them. Something they can come back to. It's safety. Security. And fond faces reside here. Friends. This place is a shelter.Just a port in the storm. And we'd do our best to remain that way. We talk, and interact and help each other in that way. And when we're ready to get back in the ring, up we go.What if I never leave? Is this place then a shelter, or a prison?
Quote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 02:05:00 PMQuote from: Ushan on December 16, 2014, 02:03:16 PMQuoteAre we all broken on some levelYesAnd should we do something about it?Not unless asked. For some, being offered help is more painful than being ignored.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on December 16, 2014, 02:43:01 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 02:36:07 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:34:59 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:30:14 PMQuote from: Sonica on December 16, 2014, 02:15:15 PMSeriously, it's a forum...Snip for emergency discussion >_______>The fuck is going on here.You didn't snip it?I snipped it out because it unfortunately disclosed several details about users who may not have wished that to have happened. It wasn't anything malign at all, but I'm just erring on the side of caution here. Playing it safe and removing it >.>Sandtrap made a very good point with it though.I didn't read it, but I doubt it would make me think of a forum as anything more than a place to waste a little bit of time. If people are having personal problems then they should walk away from the computer and deal with real life issues.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on December 16, 2014, 02:43:01 PMQuote from: Epsira on December 16, 2014, 02:36:07 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:34:59 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on December 16, 2014, 02:30:14 PMQuote from: Sonica on December 16, 2014, 02:15:15 PMSeriously, it's a forum...Snip for emergency discussion >_______>The fuck is going on here.You didn't snip it?I snipped it out because it unfortunately disclosed several details about users who may not have wished that to have happened. It wasn't anything malign at all, but I'm just erring on the side of caution here. Playing it safe and removing it >.>Sandtrap made a very good point with it though.If it has anything to do with me I can't really say that it bothers me much anymore.
Sandtrap Brought up an Interesting Point
