there is no middle ground either so don't try that fancy shityou either believe themor you're a rapist too
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.
Okay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.
um if you don't believe accusers 100% the second they insinuate it you are propagating rape culture
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 08:05:51 PMthere is no middle ground either so don't try that fancy shityou either believe themor you're a rapist toowhich is is a big part of the problem yeah
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 08:05:15 PMum if you don't believe accusers 100% the second they insinuate it you are propagating rape cultureEveryone knows the word rape is used too liberally. Guess that means rape just straight up never happens!
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:04:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.Okay? In this scenario, you did it. The proof is in the hypothetical.The question is whether or not you consider that rape, which any reasonable person would.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:08:06 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:04:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.Okay? In this scenario, you did it. The proof is in the hypothetical.The question is whether or not you consider that rape, which any reasonable person would.I'm a little shaky on this but I feel like it's sort of in the grey area but leaning towards it being rape, yeah. It kind of depends on the severity too but if you were told to stop then yes you should stop.It's not the kind of forcibly pin someone down, rip their clothes off, and have your way with them while they're screaming and crying for you to stop sort of rape. It's someone that you consentually already started to engage in intercourse with what decided that it's not going well and they want you to stop for whatever reason. It's not as severe but it's still not good per say.
Don't know what to expect out of a community run by a self-proclaimed misogynist, racist, and rapist who changed the rules of the subreddit because it wasn't "racist enough" towards Arabs, tbh
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:14:02 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:08:06 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:04:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.Okay? In this scenario, you did it. The proof is in the hypothetical.The question is whether or not you consider that rape, which any reasonable person would.I'm a little shaky on this but I feel like it's sort of in the grey area but leaning towards it being rape, yeah. It kind of depends on the severity too but if you were told to stop then yes you should stop.It's not the kind of forcibly pin someone down, rip their clothes off, and have your way with them while they're screaming and crying for you to stop sort of rape. It's someone that you consentually already started to engage in intercourse with what decided that it's not going well and they want you to stop for whatever reason. It's not as severe but it's still not good per say.I usually get flak for this, but this is why I've always felt there should be "degrees" of rape. As in, the hide in the bushes and jump out at someone would obviously be first degree, things like this would be second.Drunk sex shouldn't be considered rape whatsoever. You can give consent when you're intoxicated, and you're responsible for your own actions.
There's nothing wrong with transgendered people, but God damn do I HATE that "comic writer" with so much passion.
There's nothing wrong with transgendered people, but God damn do I HATE that "comic writer" with so much passion. Quote from: Dapper Droid on April 27, 2016, 08:25:12 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:18:40 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:14:02 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:08:06 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:04:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.Okay? In this scenario, you did it. The proof is in the hypothetical.The question is whether or not you consider that rape, which any reasonable person would.I'm a little shaky on this but I feel like it's sort of in the grey area but leaning towards it being rape, yeah. It kind of depends on the severity too but if you were told to stop then yes you should stop.It's not the kind of forcibly pin someone down, rip their clothes off, and have your way with them while they're screaming and crying for you to stop sort of rape. It's someone that you consentually already started to engage in intercourse with what decided that it's not going well and they want you to stop for whatever reason. It's not as severe but it's still not good per say.I usually get flak for this, but this is why I've always felt there should be "degrees" of rape. As in, the hide in the bushes and jump out at someone would obviously be first degree, things like this would be second.Drunk sex shouldn't be considered rape whatsoever. You can give consent when you're intoxicated, and you're responsible for your own actions.You can be drunk to the point you can't really have an active conversation, and sone one manipulate you into doing it.
Rape aside, can we at least all agree that Trannies should reach the final solution?Spoiler
Quote from: Dapper Droid on April 27, 2016, 08:25:12 PMRape aside, can we at least all agree that Trannies should reach the final solution?SpoilerI guess trannies = SJWs now
Quote from: Luciana on April 27, 2016, 08:27:09 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:18:40 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:14:02 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:08:06 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:04:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.Okay? In this scenario, you did it. The proof is in the hypothetical.The question is whether or not you consider that rape, which any reasonable person would.I'm a little shaky on this but I feel like it's sort of in the grey area but leaning towards it being rape, yeah. It kind of depends on the severity too but if you were told to stop then yes you should stop.It's not the kind of forcibly pin someone down, rip their clothes off, and have your way with them while they're screaming and crying for you to stop sort of rape. It's someone that you consentually already started to engage in intercourse with what decided that it's not going well and they want you to stop for whatever reason. It's not as severe but it's still not good per say.I usually get flak for this, but this is why I've always felt there should be "degrees" of rape. As in, the hide in the bushes and jump out at someone would obviously be first degree, things like this would be second.Drunk sex shouldn't be considered rape whatsoever. You can give consent when you're intoxicated, and you're responsible for your own actions.You can be drunk to the point you can't really have an active conversation, and sone one manipulate you into doing it.You're still in control of what you do. If I'm blackout drunk and I get into a car and crash into the side of the building, I'm still responsible for the damages.
You're still in control of what you do. If I'm blackout drunk and I get into a car and crash into the side of the building, I'm still responsible for the damages.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:35:39 PMYou're still in control of what you do. If I'm blackout drunk and I get into a car and crash into the side of the building, I'm still responsible for the damages.Yeah I know, but I think the scenarios are a bit different (obviously). For example if a completely sober person gets someone so drunk they're almost passed out, says they'll take em home, and fucks them. The key factor I'm getting at is manipulation.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 04:33:06 PMQuote from: Dapper Droid on April 27, 2016, 04:27:34 PMIf a man quits in sex, he's a beta and can't keep up.It's almost like this mindset is a bad thing, too. The fact is that no one has the obligation to finish having sex, and if either person wants to stop at any time, then the sex has to stop. If your partner ignores it and keeps fucking you, that's obviously rape, whether it's the girl or the guy who ignores it.Really it's rape if my girlfriend and I are fucking, and she wants stop when I'm close to nutting so I keep going for a few more seconds? That's rape? I feel very worried the types of court cases that will pop up in the future from married couples if that's the case.
Quote from: Dapper Droid on April 27, 2016, 04:27:34 PMIf a man quits in sex, he's a beta and can't keep up.It's almost like this mindset is a bad thing, too. The fact is that no one has the obligation to finish having sex, and if either person wants to stop at any time, then the sex has to stop. If your partner ignores it and keeps fucking you, that's obviously rape, whether it's the girl or the guy who ignores it.
If a man quits in sex, he's a beta and can't keep up.
What if you stick your dick in a fire ant hill? Can you sue the ants for assault or can they sue you for sexual harassment?
Pretty much. Women offer nothing in value besides sex and maybe money, but if you rely on a woman for money, you're a failure of a man anyway.
You're defending the rape, which is justifying it. Saying that this is the girl's fault, in any way whatsoever, is the same thing as saying a girl who gets held down and raped in an alley had it coming for not being smart enough to dress casually.
/r/The_Donald is so Alt-Right that it's now banning people for not being racist
