Quote from: Dapper Droid on April 27, 2016, 07:02:52 PMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 06:59:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 06:56:11 PMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 06:51:41 PMYour words are powerless to penetrate the armour of contempt that the God-Emperor was born wearing.1000 liberal souls will be sacrificed every day to sustain his eternal life.The wall will be built 10 feet higher for every cry of racism thrown at it.In the golden light of the near-far future, there is only Donald.Donald is a far better meme than candidateFirst they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you shoot them, then you win.Make America Great Again.THE WALL JUST GOT 10 FEET HIGHER
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 06:59:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 06:56:11 PMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 06:51:41 PMYour words are powerless to penetrate the armour of contempt that the God-Emperor was born wearing.1000 liberal souls will be sacrificed every day to sustain his eternal life.The wall will be built 10 feet higher for every cry of racism thrown at it.In the golden light of the near-far future, there is only Donald.Donald is a far better meme than candidateFirst they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you shoot them, then you win.Make America Great Again.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 06:56:11 PMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 06:51:41 PMYour words are powerless to penetrate the armour of contempt that the God-Emperor was born wearing.1000 liberal souls will be sacrificed every day to sustain his eternal life.The wall will be built 10 feet higher for every cry of racism thrown at it.In the golden light of the near-far future, there is only Donald.Donald is a far better meme than candidateFirst they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you shoot them, then you win.
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 06:51:41 PMYour words are powerless to penetrate the armour of contempt that the God-Emperor was born wearing.1000 liberal souls will be sacrificed every day to sustain his eternal life.The wall will be built 10 feet higher for every cry of racism thrown at it.In the golden light of the near-far future, there is only Donald.Donald is a far better meme than candidate
Your words are powerless to penetrate the armour of contempt that the God-Emperor was born wearing.1000 liberal souls will be sacrificed every day to sustain his eternal life.The wall will be built 10 feet higher for every cry of racism thrown at it.In the golden light of the near-far future, there is only Donald.
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 07:06:20 PMQuote from: Dapper Droid on April 27, 2016, 07:02:52 PMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 06:59:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 06:56:11 PMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 06:51:41 PMYour words are powerless to penetrate the armour of contempt that the God-Emperor was born wearing.1000 liberal souls will be sacrificed every day to sustain his eternal life.The wall will be built 10 feet higher for every cry of racism thrown at it.In the golden light of the near-far future, there is only Donald.Donald is a far better meme than candidateFirst they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you shoot them, then you win.Make America Great Again.THE WALL JUST GOT 10 FEET HIGHERTHE WALL JUST GOT 2 BEN SHAPIROS HIGHER
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 06:43:57 PMAll of these things might have stemmed from a foolish mistake on the victim's part There we go. Got what I wanted.
All of these things might have stemmed from a foolish mistake on the victim's part
All of these things might have stemmed from a foolish mistake on the victim's part, but it's always 100% on the perpetrator.
Okay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.
What the hell is this thread even about?
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.What? If she is uncomfortable and wants to change positions, you have to STOP. If your thrust even ONCE more, you are literally RAPING her.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.
um if you don't believe accusers 100% the second they insinuate it you are propagating rape culture
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 08:05:51 PMthere is no middle ground either so don't try that fancy shityou either believe themor you're a rapist toowhich is is a big part of the problem yeah
there is no middle ground either so don't try that fancy shityou either believe themor you're a rapist too
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 27, 2016, 08:05:15 PMum if you don't believe accusers 100% the second they insinuate it you are propagating rape cultureEveryone knows the word rape is used too liberally. Guess that means rape just straight up never happens!
Quote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:08:06 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:04:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.Okay? In this scenario, you did it. The proof is in the hypothetical.The question is whether or not you consider that rape, which any reasonable person would.I'm a little shaky on this but I feel like it's sort of in the grey area but leaning towards it being rape, yeah. It kind of depends on the severity too but if you were told to stop then yes you should stop.It's not the kind of forcibly pin someone down, rip their clothes off, and have your way with them while they're screaming and crying for you to stop sort of rape. It's someone that you consentually already started to engage in intercourse with what decided that it's not going well and they want you to stop for whatever reason. It's not as severe but it's still not good per say.
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:04:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.Okay? In this scenario, you did it. The proof is in the hypothetical.The question is whether or not you consider that rape, which any reasonable person would.
Don't know what to expect out of a community run by a self-proclaimed misogynist, racist, and rapist who changed the rules of the subreddit because it wasn't "racist enough" towards Arabs, tbh
Quote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:14:02 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:08:06 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 08:04:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 08:00:08 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:54:46 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:46:14 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:41:11 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:36:44 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:33:29 PMQuote from: SecondClass on April 27, 2016, 07:31:50 PMQuote from: Varg on April 27, 2016, 07:30:03 PMOkay, so...I mean... if you're being told to STOP like this person is seriously pissed off or in pain, then chances are you're doing something wrong and the sex isn't nearly as good as you think it is and yeah you should probably stop before trying to continue. Stopping to reposition is is a normal part of sex anyway. Just my two cents here.The reason why really doesn't matter. It could just be that your partner is unconfortable and doesn't want to have sex anymore.The reason does matter and it should be explained. Fairness is important.The reason for ending sex doesn't have to be explained. All your partner needs to say is "stop" (or a safe word) and you should immediately oblige. Once that happens, you two can talk about it, give reasonings, and such. If you find the reason unfair or lacking, then it may be justification to end the relationship.But a bad or nonexistent reason is never justifcation to ignore your partner and keep fucking them, in any world.It's not "can" talk about it, it's "should" talk about it. I'm not saying keep having sex. Seriously if someone is so mad or uncomfortable that they want to stop completely, then by all means put a stop to it. If both parties are enjoying it then it's not something that would end abruptly like that. But a conversation needs to happen if there's a problem because communication is important, the same way that consent is important.Oh, I thought you meant a legitimate reason to stop having sex has to be given before the sex is ended. It goes without saying that there would be reasons and a conversation about it afterwards.There's a legitimate problem I'm that rape accusations can very easily be thrown around and suddenly that person's life is ruined. People know that all they have to do is throw out an accusation, no matter how petty it is. The idea is to get away from that kind of thing.A lot of these issues can be solved relatively easy by just putting the two in a room with a psychologist and having the issue sorted out there. Unless the situation is actually abusive or violent, people are often way too quick to jump to social defamation.And considering anyone under the influence unable to give consent is a big part of this.But that's not what I'm talking about. If you're in the middle of having sex, the girl makes it clear she wants to stop right now, and you ignore her and keep going, how isn't that rape? You'd have every reason to be socially defamed if you pulled that.No one should be socially defamed until there's proof, because people believe false accusations way too easily.Okay? In this scenario, you did it. The proof is in the hypothetical.The question is whether or not you consider that rape, which any reasonable person would.I'm a little shaky on this but I feel like it's sort of in the grey area but leaning towards it being rape, yeah. It kind of depends on the severity too but if you were told to stop then yes you should stop.It's not the kind of forcibly pin someone down, rip their clothes off, and have your way with them while they're screaming and crying for you to stop sort of rape. It's someone that you consentually already started to engage in intercourse with what decided that it's not going well and they want you to stop for whatever reason. It's not as severe but it's still not good per say.I usually get flak for this, but this is why I've always felt there should be "degrees" of rape. As in, the hide in the bushes and jump out at someone would obviously be first degree, things like this would be second.Drunk sex shouldn't be considered rape whatsoever. You can give consent when you're intoxicated, and you're responsible for your own actions.