I made up my own fanction of Space marines.  They didn't believe in the emperors BS powers.  They weren't chaos either

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 04, 2017, 08:19:30 PM

This triggers me greatly.

It could have been Vulkan, the perpetual.
It could have been Russ, the wanderer.
It could have been Jaghatai, the hunter.
It could have been Corax, speedyboi extraordinaire.
It could have been The Lion, although thankfully not.

but no

it has to be rowboat

for FUCKS SAKE

The most bland nonce of all 20 brothers, come to lead the imperium to victory once more.
I mean, yeah it's probably the best option pragmatically speaking but it's bland as fucking hell.

Instead of the long-awaited Wolftime, we get Ultramar 2.0.
Lah dee fuckin da

I think they've learned from the hate they garnered during the Matt Ward era. Rowboat, in my mind, would have among the most impact. He's the one who was all about administration, which has completely gone down the shitter since his coma.
I myself have never had a problem with Robot, he was bad during the Ward era, like everything else, but since then he's gotten better. They've toned down the MarySuishness of the Ultramarines a lot.

And other Primarchs are definitely coming back. Vulcan for certain, Big Daddy Dorn hopefully, Lion El'Autistic probably, Jaghatai "Gotta Go Fast" Khan maybe. Corvus "it's not a stage dad" Corax maybe. GW has definitely seen how well HH has done and they'll seek to replicate that in 40k: they'll be bringing back all the Primarchs that make sense.

GW has also repeatedly denied that they're doing the End Times for 40k. Eighth edition is streamlining the rules (although nowhere near as much as AoS). Now, you should always take what they say with a grain of salt but AoS only did well when they came out with the generals handbook, which made things more complicated again.

Honestly, 40k is in a really good spot right now. Some armies that really needed an update have received one, and GW themselves have improved 100x since the new CEO came on board.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely see where you're coming from and share your concerns. I'm just trying to stay positive, as the constant negativity surrounding any hobby ever on the internet really gets me down

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 05, 2017, 09:53:19 AM

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 04, 2017, 09:22:55 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 04, 2017, 08:19:30 PM

This triggers me greatly.

It could have been Vulkan, the perpetual.
It could have been Russ, the wanderer.
It could have been Jaghatai, the hunter.
It could have been Corax, speedyboi extraordinaire.
It could have been The Lion, although thankfully not.

but no

it has to be rowboat

for FUCKS SAKE

The most bland nonce of all 20 brothers, come to lead the imperium to victory once more.
I mean, yeah it's probably the best option pragmatically speaking but it's bland as fucking hell.

Instead of the long-awaited Wolftime, we get Ultramar 2.0.
Lah dee fuckin da

I think they've learned from the hate they garnered during the Matt Ward era. Rowboat, in my mind, would have among the most impact. He's the one who was all about administration, which has completely gone down the shitter since his coma.
I myself have never had a problem with Robot, he was bad during the Ward era, like everything else, but since then he's gotten better. They've toned down the MarySuishness of the Ultramarines a lot.

And other Primarchs are definitely coming back. Vulcan for certain, Big Daddy Dorn hopefully, Lion El'Autistic probably, Jaghatai "Gotta Go Fast" Khan maybe. Corvus "it's not a stage dad" Corax maybe. GW has definitely seen how well HH has done and they'll seek to replicate that in 40k: they'll be bringing back all the Primarchs that make sense.

GW has also repeatedly denied that they're doing the End Times for 40k. Eighth edition is streamlining the rules (although nowhere near as much as AoS). Now, you should always take what they say with a grain of salt but AoS only did well when they came out with the generals handbook, which made things more complicated again.

Honestly, 40k is in a really good spot right now. Some armies that really needed an update have received one, and GW themselves have improved 100x since the new CEO came on board.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely see where you're coming from and share your concerns. I'm just trying to stay positive, as the constant negativity surrounding any hobby ever on the internet really gets me down

The trouble is, it's no longer post-ward. The bastard came back last year.

If they are bringing them back, those that live that is, that's good.
I doubt Dorn will return, as he died-died after the heresy. The others should be fine to turn up though.

They've said it a lot, but I still trust them with their own IP less than I'd trust an 8 year old in an antiques shop.

Yeah, I do get ya. It's a lot easier for me to complain about the stuff that I don't like from GW.
I'm just dreading them letting that pillock have a go at 40K again and Age of the Emperor'ing the whole thing.

Age of Sigmar is actually a good thing. And they are AoSing 8th edition rules but keeping the 6/7th edition rules for Horus Heresy era gaming.

Mortarion is the next demon primarch
Dorn will be back to face off against Purturabo
Lorgar will be the new big bad of chaos after Abby's death
Alphy, Sang, Horus and Manus wont be returning
Curze returns and gets redeemed (despite dying)

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 05, 2017, 11:54:28 AM

Quote from: JebBush on February 05, 2017, 10:30:16 AM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 05, 2017, 09:53:19 AM

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on February 04, 2017, 09:22:55 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 04, 2017, 08:19:30 PM

This triggers me greatly.

It could have been Vulkan, the perpetual.
It could have been Russ, the wanderer.
It could have been Jaghatai, the hunter.
It could have been Corax, speedyboi extraordinaire.
It could have been The Lion, although thankfully not.

but no

it has to be rowboat

for FUCKS SAKE

The most bland nonce of all 20 brothers, come to lead the imperium to victory once more.
I mean, yeah it's probably the best option pragmatically speaking but it's bland as fucking hell.

Instead of the long-awaited Wolftime, we get Ultramar 2.0.
Lah dee fuckin da

I think they've learned from the hate they garnered during the Matt Ward era. Rowboat, in my mind, would have among the most impact. He's the one who was all about administration, which has completely gone down the shitter since his coma.
I myself have never had a problem with Robot, he was bad during the Ward era, like everything else, but since then he's gotten better. They've toned down the MarySuishness of the Ultramarines a lot.

And other Primarchs are definitely coming back. Vulcan for certain, Big Daddy Dorn hopefully, Lion El'Autistic probably, Jaghatai "Gotta Go Fast" Khan maybe. Corvus "it's not a stage dad" Corax maybe. GW has definitely seen how well HH has done and they'll seek to replicate that in 40k: they'll be bringing back all the Primarchs that make sense.

GW has also repeatedly denied that they're doing the End Times for 40k. Eighth edition is streamlining the rules (although nowhere near as much as AoS). Now, you should always take what they say with a grain of salt but AoS only did well when they came out with the generals handbook, which made things more complicated again.

Honestly, 40k is in a really good spot right now. Some armies that really needed an update have received one, and GW themselves have improved 100x since the new CEO came on board.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely see where you're coming from and share your concerns. I'm just trying to stay positive, as the constant negativity surrounding any hobby ever on the internet really gets me down

The trouble is, it's no longer post-ward. The bastard came back last year.

If they are bringing them back, those that live that is, that's good.
I doubt Dorn will return, as he died-died after the heresy. The others should be fine to turn up though.

They've said it a lot, but I still trust them with their own IP less than I'd trust an 8 year old in an antiques shop.

Yeah, I do get ya. It's a lot easier for me to complain about the stuff that I don't like from GW.
I'm just dreading them letting that pillock have a go at 40K again and Age of the Emperor'ing the whole thing.

Age of Sigmar is actually a good thing. And they are AoSing 8th edition rules but keeping the 6/7th edition rules for Horus Heresy era gaming.

Mortarion is the next demon primarch
Dorn will be back to face off against Purturabo
Lorgar will be the new big bad of chaos after Abby's death
Alphy, Sang, Horus and Manus wont be returning
Curze returns and gets redeemed (despite dying)

Some of this is fine, some of this is not.

Mortarion and Lorgar, that's all good.

Dorn is dead, bleeding demised, gone to join the choir invisible. So him coming back to 1v1 the siege lord (whilst cool) is a bit farfetched.

Curze's fate was and is, one of the better stories, they should leave it with him accepting his fate.
'Death is nothing compared to vindication' stops having the same ring to it when you get deus ex'd back into existence.

They only ever found Dorn's hand, so I don't see his return as super far fetched myself.

Also Abaddon's rumored death sounds hilarious. Apparently he might just be killed by Cypher with a bolt pistol shot to the head in the Emperor's throne room.