original thread topic was boring anyway

God damn that thread on floor tiles was fucking great.

Quote from: Ingy on May 02, 2020, 03:16:37 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 01, 2020, 10:43:17 PM

the idea of an act (or anything other than a person) being "gay" is a very tricky thing for my brain to conceptualize

yeah, and if you can't tell, i'm having a bit of trouble putting these things into words, although it makes perfect sense in my head

Quote from: Ingy on May 02, 2020, 03:18:46 PM

Also why

This seems pretty contradictory

because both men and women have tongues, and both men and women have anuses

to my brain, that makes it neutral, like kissing

a ciswoman wouldn't be able to penetrate you with a penis because she doesn't have one—so, for a guy to enjoy being on the receiving end of a dick, he would have to be at least a little bit gay i think

none of this shit is black and white, let's keep in mind

lol wtf
Just because both sexes have them they’re neutral? There’s still a big difference between male and female lips, male and female nipples, male and female hips, male and female everything

So now it’s the sex organs that convey sexuality? I thought as long as you don’t care whoever is fucking you, you can claim anything you want that you’re straight gay whatever

lol wtf
Just because both sexes have them they’re neutral? There’s still a big difference between male and female lips, male and female nipples, male and female hips, male and female everything

compared to the differences between penises and vaginas, these are quite negligible

So now it’s the sex organs that convey sexuality? I thought as long as you don’t care whoever is fucking you, you can claim anything you want that you’re straight gay whatever

it's not about "not caring," it's about being able to imagine your partner as the opposite sex when they aren't, or ignoring things that make them less attractive to you

so if you're a straight man, it's gonna be hard to ignore a penis when it's inside of you

Quote from: Verbatim on May 02, 2020, 03:20:37 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on May 02, 2020, 03:13:23 PM

so by that logic it's gay to get pegged by your gf?

kind of depends on how/why you're getting off to it, i suppose

if it's straight, the pleasure would have to come solely from knowing that your gf is into it

but if a man finds getting pegged enjoyable in and of itself, then i'd struggle to call that straight

There's nothing inherently gay about getting your prostate massaged.

i said the same thing earlier

"i don't think it's incontrovertibly gay for a male to derive pleasure from anal stimulation, but i think there's a difference between something like a rimjob and full-on penetration"

a prostate massage doesn't necessarily have to involve a dick

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 02, 2020, 05:21:23 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 02, 2020, 03:20:37 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on May 02, 2020, 03:13:23 PM

so by that logic it's gay to get pegged by your gf?

kind of depends on how/why you're getting off to it, i suppose

if it's straight, the pleasure would have to come solely from knowing that your gf is into it

but if a man finds getting pegged enjoyable in and of itself, then i'd struggle to call that straight

There's nothing inherently gay about getting your prostate massaged.

i said the same thing earlier

"i don't think it's incontrovertibly gay for a male to derive pleasure from anal stimulation, but i think there's a difference between something like a rimjob and full-on penetration"

a prostate massage doesn't necessarily have to involve a dick

You don't have to be sexually attracted to the person in you ass bro
therefore, receiving anal is entirely separate from the hetero/homo binary.

* Twisting my pubic hair
* Eating the fungus of my large toe's nail after I clip it

You don't have to be sexually attracted to the person in you ass bro
therefore, receiving anal is entirely separate from the hetero/homo binary.

anal is just about g spot stimulation tbh

Also approaching sexuality in terms of labels generalizes a lot of subjects, forcing them into presorted categories that they typically don't entirely belong to. Hetero and homo are ends of a spectrum to which people describe themselves and the connection between parties involved, not a spectrum of actions.

Also also a relationship, as based upon this premise, relies on the identities of every involved. Relationships ought to be founded on trust and mutual comfort; whatever they decide to call it is their choice, not that of someone from without the matter.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 02, 2020, 05:46:30 PM

You don't have to be sexually attracted to the person in you ass bro
therefore, receiving anal is entirely separate from the hetero/homo binary.

anal is just about g spot stimulation tbh

Also approaching sexuality in terms of labels generalizes a lot of subjects, forcing them into presorted categories that they typically don't entirely belong to. Hetero and homo are ends of a spectrum to which people describe themselves and the connection between parties involved, not a spectrum of actions.

Also also a relationship, as based upon this premise, relies on the identities of every involved. Relationships ought to be founded on trust and mutual comfort; whatever they decide to call it is their choice, not that of someone from without the matter.

when the fuck did you get so based

Don’t you think it’s useful for words to have solid definitions? Of course all definitions have some flexibility but if it becomes too subjective, you lose the ability to convey meaning. Like we been discussing in this thread you could take a dick up the ass and there’ll be be debates as to whether that’s gay or not

Good definitions must be both encompassing and specific i.e. not Plato's featherless bipeds. If you lack either characteristic it can be worse than useless: it can be harmful to the subject/discourse. In relation to this subject: gay marriage only became legal 4 years ago in the US. There are still many parts of the country where being/doing something "gay" leads to being assaulted.

 The discussion here is relatively fruitless; deciding by unanimity whether some is gay ultimately means nothing when tearing down the walls we've surrounded our selves with is the greater issue. You are more than your individual actions, you are also your thoughts, emotions, and relationships. If a man is fine with getting dicked down but doesn't identify as gay, it's nobody's place to convince them otherwise.

yeah but where do tomboys fit in to all of this

yeah but where do tomboys fit in to all of this

On my lap

Quote from: Aria on May 03, 2020, 07:12:53 AM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 02, 2020, 05:46:30 PM

You don't have to be sexually attracted to the person in you ass bro
therefore, receiving anal is entirely separate from the hetero/homo binary.

anal is just about g spot stimulation tbh

Also approaching sexuality in terms of labels generalizes a lot of subjects, forcing them into presorted categories that they typically don't entirely belong to. Hetero and homo are ends of a spectrum to which people describe themselves and the connection between parties involved, not a spectrum of actions.

Also also a relationship, as based upon this premise, relies on the identities of every involved. Relationships ought to be founded on trust and mutual comfort; whatever they decide to call it is their choice, not that of someone from without the matter.

when the fuck did you get so based

Somewhere between Das Kapital and On Contradiction.