People who hunt for fun should be shot

CIS · November 03, 2014, 03:10:44 PM

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clum clum · November 03, 2014, 03:11:24 PM

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Let me ask you all something. Would you consider a person that kills insects and arachnids for fun as vile as someone who guns down deer for a laugh?

Yup.

Squashing a bug is one thing, but if you actually find it fun then you should be sectioned.

Well, that's good then. A lot of people seem to forget that they are alive as much as a deer is.

CIS · November 03, 2014, 03:11:45 PM

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Minus my feelings on hunting, they just don't look aesthetically pleasing at all. Would rather have posters/wall hangings of actually good art, music I like or something which is important to me. Not some dead deer.

To each his own.

Nexus · November 03, 2014, 03:12:29 PM

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Let me ask you all something. Would you consider a person that kills insects and arachnids for fun as vile as someone who guns down deer for a laugh?

Not as vile, but still still seams like it's going down a path. I don't kill insects or arachnids when I can take them outside. Unless getting outside is impossible and dangerous like Wasps. I don't enjoy it though.

clum clum · November 03, 2014, 03:15:09 PM

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Let me ask you all something. Would you consider a person that kills insects and arachnids for fun as vile as someone who guns down deer for a laugh?
Not as vile, but still still seams like it's going down a path. I don't kill insects or arachnids when I can take them outside. Unless getting outside is impossible and dangerous like Wasps. I don't enjoy it though.

Wasps, I always kill when I spot them in my house. They will die anyway.

Not to mention that they'll sting you without hesitation.

Mr. Psychologist · November 03, 2014, 03:17:15 PM

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Let me ask you all something. Would you consider a person that kills insects and arachnids for fun as vile as someone who guns down deer for a laugh?

Yup.

Squashing a bug is one thing, but if you actually find it fun then you should be sectioned.

Well, that's good then. A lot of people seem to forget that they are alive as much as a deer is.

Indeed, just because it's small and seemingly insignificant doesn't mean it doesn't matter <.<

The only time I see killing as justifiable (I'll just do animals because people is a veerry complex matter) is either in self defence (A tiger trying to eat you) or if you are going to eat it. I can also tolerate the arguments over pest control since that would usually fall under self-defence without immediacy, like the trapping of Rats (Disease) or the killing of flies (Disease).

But in any case, killing for fun is simply abhorrent.

Nexus · November 03, 2014, 03:17:22 PM

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Let me ask you all something. Would you consider a person that kills insects and arachnids for fun as vile as someone who guns down deer for a laugh?
Not as vile, but still still seams like it's going down a path. I don't kill insects or arachnids when I can take them outside. Unless getting outside is impossible and dangerous like Wasps. I don't enjoy it though.

Wasps, I always kill when I spot them in my house. They will die anyway.

Not to mention that they'll sting you without hesitation.

Bees are different though. I have been able to open a window for a bee and it fly out without killing it. Got so near it that if it were a wasp, it would have attacked me.

Mr. Psychologist · November 03, 2014, 03:17:57 PM

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Let me ask you all something. Would you consider a person that kills insects and arachnids for fun as vile as someone who guns down deer for a laugh?
Not as vile, but still still seams like it's going down a path. I don't kill insects or arachnids when I can take them outside. Unless getting outside is impossible and dangerous like Wasps. I don't enjoy it though.

Wasps, I always kill when I spot them in my house. They will die anyway.

Not to mention that they'll sting you without hesitation.

I give wasps one chance to fly out of an open window, if they take it - they live. If they don't - It's fair game for splattering.

Fuck wasps.

Nexus · November 03, 2014, 03:18:40 PM

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How can those really even be trophies. It's not like you jumped on it from above and wrestled it with your hands. You shot it with a gun.

clum clum · November 03, 2014, 03:18:43 PM

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Let me ask you all something. Would you consider a person that kills insects and arachnids for fun as vile as someone who guns down deer for a laugh?
Not as vile, but still still seams like it's going down a path. I don't kill insects or arachnids when I can take them outside. Unless getting outside is impossible and dangerous like Wasps. I don't enjoy it though.

Wasps, I always kill when I spot them in my house. They will die anyway.

Not to mention that they'll sting you without hesitation.
Bees are different though. I have been able to open a window for a bee and it fly out without killing it. Got so near it that if it were a wasp, it would have attacked me.

Bees are big softies. They have never attacked me before, so I have never attacked them.

fatman3000 · November 03, 2014, 03:20:54 PM

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How can those really even be trophies. It's not like you jumped on it from above and wrestled it with your hands. You shot it with a gun.

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November 03, 2014, 03:21:05 PM

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I think hunting is pretty idiotic. I do not see it as a sport or anything. Hunting out of necessity and survival is one thing, but in our current society you can go to a store and buy food.

What makes killing your own food any less justified than other people killing your food?

DAS B00T x2 · November 03, 2014, 03:22:15 PM

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Let me ask you all something. Would you consider a person that kills insects and arachnids for fun as vile as someone who guns down deer for a laugh?
Not as vile, but still still seams like it's going down a path. I don't kill insects or arachnids when I can take them outside. Unless getting outside is impossible and dangerous like Wasps. I don't enjoy it though.

I enjoy the thrill of a wasp kill. Knowing that if I miss the strike he's gonna fuck me arm up... it's pure adrenaline, baby.

Nexus · November 03, 2014, 03:22:34 PM

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How can those really even be trophies. It's not like you jumped on it from above and wrestled it with your hands. You shot it with a gun.

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ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 03, 2014, 03:25:24 PM

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Magos Domina · November 03, 2014, 03:27:38 PM

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I get the benefit of knowing that the deer lived a happy life, away from a factory farm and the harms of humans

Really?

>When I kill a deer for fun, I get the benefit of knowing that the deer lives a happy life away from the harms of humans

Don't you comprehend what you're saying?

He doesn't, it's best not to push the issue.

Kinder Graham · November 03, 2014, 03:55:20 PM

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I get the benefit of knowing that the deer lived a happy life, away from a factory farm and the harms of humans

Really?

>When I kill a deer for fun, I get the benefit of knowing that the deer lives a happy life away from the harms of humans

Don't you comprehend what you're saying?
He doesn't, it's best not to push the issue.

Fucking rich coming from you

The Lord Ruler · November 03, 2014, 04:22:22 PM

Interesting.

How do you people feel about hunting for population control?

Jim · November 03, 2014, 04:27:57 PM

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Turkey · November 03, 2014, 04:28:28 PM

Hunting is good for the environment and ecology by preventing trophic cascades and keeping populations in equilibrium. If hunting was suddenly banned, you'd see massive upheavals in predator populations followed by a sharp decline. You'd see the death of many riparian habitats across the country.

Naoto · November 03, 2014, 04:34:38 PM

lol this thread.
People who have never gone hunting and don't understand how animal population control works. For example deer have no predators now that wolves are largely endangered. They breed like rabbits too. If you don't curb the population disease spreads crazy and wipes them out in that area.

Same people complaining will be the ones buying eggs or eating burgers without thinking about how shitty those mass farms are.

We kill animals and eat them. If we were still in the food chain they'd kill and eat us. That's nature. Get over it.

I expect this type of thread from tumblr not sep7agon.

Mr. Psychologist · November 03, 2014, 04:38:28 PM

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lol this thread.
People who have never gone hunting and don't understand how animal population control works. For example deer have no predators now that wolves are largely endangered. They breed like rabbits too. If you don't curb the population disease spreads crazy and wipes them out in that area.

Same people complaining will be the ones buying eggs or eating burgers without thinking about how shitty those mass farms are.

I expect this type of thread from tumblr not spe7agon.

I've never gone hunting and I do understand how population control works and is necessary.
I don't consider culling in the same light as hunting for fun.

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Same people complaining will be the ones buying eggs or eating burgers without thinking about how shitty those mass farms are.

And I don't do either of those, instead I buy eggs locally where you can see the chickens roaming around in fields .-.

Mr. Psychologist · November 03, 2014, 04:41:13 PM

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Hunting is good for the environment and ecology by preventing trophic cascades and keeping populations in equilibrium. If hunting was suddenly banned, you'd see massive upheavals in predator populations followed by a sharp decline. You'd see the death of many riparian habitats across the country.

I suppose that depends on if you replace sport/trophy hunting with proper population maintenance or if you just outright ban the hunting of animals.

In Britain, as far as I understand it deer populations are managed by the forestry commission/landholders to prevent them from breeding unchecked since we wiped out all the wolves and the like a few centuries ago <_<

Blazed Iron · November 03, 2014, 04:42:36 PM

CyberGama · November 03, 2014, 04:45:57 PM

So killing turkeys would mean that i'm a faggot?

Naoto · November 03, 2014, 04:47:22 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 03, 2014, 04:38:28 PM

I've never gone hunting and I do understand how population control works and is necessary.
I don't consider culling in the same light as hunting for fun.

And I don't do either of those, instead I buy eggs locally where you can see the chickens roaming around in fields .-.

Hunting for fun and culling are the same thing. There's a limit on how many permits are allowed. You're not going out and killing the entire species. If the population is down or up the permit amount changes accordingly.

Meh thread just reeks of sheltered ideology. People seem to forget the food chain exists.

Blazed Iron · November 03, 2014, 04:49:58 PM

I don't even understand why they call it "hunting". Sitting in a tree stand waiting for a particular animal to cross your path is not hunting, it's camping.

Mr. Psychologist · November 03, 2014, 04:53:47 PM

Quote from: राज on November 03, 2014, 04:47:22 PM

Hunting for fun and culling are the same thing. There's a limit on how many permits are allowed. You're not going out and killing the entire species. If the population is down or up the permit amount changes accordingly.

I would disagree, sport hunting can and is used as a part of population control (culling) but the primary intent behind culling is to maintain a population rather than to shoot a few animals for fun. Or at least I hope it is .-.

My stance on things remains much the same though, if you go out to kill animals for fun then you are a sick bastard. If you hunt them for food and enjoy it, I don't like it but at least it's not wasteful. If you hunt solely for food then I don't have a problem with it even if it's not something I would approve of/take part in myself.

When it comes to culling I view that as a more detached process, it's about caretaking for the bigger picture of the habitat. When the culling is carried out as a part of other forms of hunting, the above still apply to my thoughts on it.

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Meh thread just reeks of sheltered ideology. People seem to forget the food chain exists.

It probably comes off that way, but equally from the other point of view it seems like people are defending the enjoyment of killing living things. Not everyone mind you, but some.