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muh safety and protective guberment

I know you're joking or whatever, but Sikhs don't carry Kirpans around for safety or protection. They just do it because they have to. It's a religious requirement.
no I mean you don't want them to carry it because it makes you feel unsafe and you need Ottawa to help you


 
 
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Just a quick question, when was the last time a sikh randomly pulled out their kirpan and started stabbing everyone in the street?
Infact, when have sikhs ever been problematic in the west?

Don't lump them in with muslims thank you very much.

A knife is a knife.

Let's say our good semaritan sikh fellow gets into a barfight and ends up using his dagger. Or somebody takes it off him and uses it? It's not a question of when have they ever been trouble.

It's a question of when will the fuckups start happening because of the rule bending.
And nowadays (unless something has changed in the last few years) most sikhs carry ceremonial versions/wooden ones. So it's a blunt token for a lot of them, in the same way a christian wears a cross.
I mean it's been a few years since RE, but what I remember the Kirpan is a reminder to all sikhs of their duty to stand up for what is right and fight against oppression and persecution regardless of who is on the receiving end.

And I don't think Sikhs generally get into barfights all that often what with alcohol being prohibited <_<

Put it this way, I'd feel a lot safer in a room full of armed sikhs than I would in a room full of bongs with knives.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Psy's actually right though. Just about any Kirpan that isn't an antique is wooden or without an edge grind.


 
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no I mean you don't want them to carry it because it makes you feel unsafe

It doesn't make me feel unsafe -- it is unsafe.

Don't apply American memes to Canadian values pls


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
no I mean you don't want them to carry it because it makes you feel unsafe

It doesn't make me feel unsafe -- it is unsafe.

Don't apply American memes to Canadian values pls
Are Canadian values made of bubble wrap?


 
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most sikhs carry ceremonial versions/wooden ones.

That's fine, then. No issues.

It becomes a little less clear once you bring ceremonial blades into it because, it's like, how do you regulate that?

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Put it this way, I'd feel a lot safer in a room full of armed sikhs than I would in a room full of bongs with knives.

Wouldn't we all.


 
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no I mean you don't want them to carry it because it makes you feel unsafe

It doesn't make me feel unsafe -- it is unsafe.

Don't apply American memes to Canadian values pls
Are Canadian values made of bubble wrap?

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Just a quick question, when was the last time a sikh randomly pulled out their kirpan and started stabbing everyone in the street?
Infact, when have sikhs ever been problematic in the west?

Literally never. Or very rarely.

It doesn't matter though, because like Sandtrap said, a knife is a knife. It's a national security risk.

I actually have the utmost respect for Sikhs.

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Don't lump them in with muslims thank you very much.

They deserve to be lumped in with muslims in this context, though.
A sikh with a knife is a national security risk?
And I thought britbongs were wrapped in cotton wool.

They never deserved to be lumped in with muslims, if they flat out refused to replace their kirpans with ceremonial variants then sure but the fact is they have already done so for years without a single complaint in the UK.

Edit to add in the other quote/question

Ceremonial blades are the ones that don't have a cutting edge (in this context, it's not like an aztec heart cutter), it's a blunt one fashioned in the image of a real one that serves the same purpose. So if they were trying to take knives into a club, yeah that's a bit of a problem but if they were the blunt forms I'm a bit confused as to why there would be an issue with that.
Last Edit: October 14, 2015, 02:01:45 PM by Mr Psychologist


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
no I mean you don't want them to carry it because it makes you feel unsafe

It doesn't make me feel unsafe -- it is unsafe.

Don't apply American memes to Canadian values pls
Are Canadian values made of bubble wrap?

Packing peanuts, actually.
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I know you hate quote cutting or whatever it's called so I'll try to refrain from doing that >.>

A Sikh with a knife is a national security risk? And I thought britbongs were wrapped in cotton wool.

National security in the way that the "nation" is its people.

Anyone with a knife is more of a security risk than someone without a knife.

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They never deserved to be lumped in with muslims, if they flat out refused to replace their kirpans with ceremonial variants then sure but the fact is they have already done so for years without a single complaint in the UK.

What I meant was that they deserved to be lumped with Muslims in Canada because both groups try to change the laws in favour of their religion. Sorry for the confusion, I definitely think Muslims are the greater offense or whatever...

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Ceremonial blades are the ones that don't have a cutting edge (in this context, it's not like an aztec heart cutter), it's a blunt one fashioned in the image of a real one that serves the same purpose. So if they were trying to take knives into a club, yeah that's a bit of a problem but if they were the blunt forms I'm a bit confused as to why there would be an issue with that.

As far as I'm concerned, there isn't an issue there, then.


 
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