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I'll post one. I'm starting to get fucking sick and tired of the religion bullshit. Not the religions themselves, but the fact that they immidiately cry out "opressed minority!" when they have the gall to move into my fucking country. And I'll give three examples of their fucking bullshit.

1. Quebec right now, is in a legal fight with its Islamic communities because they want their women to wear their veils in public completely. And they have complete impunity at airports already.

2. Sihk men, on a fair number of occassions, carry ceremonial daggers on them. Not long ago, these guys made a fuss that they weren't allowed into nightclubs because of their daggers. You're not allowed to enter a nightclub with weapons of any kind. Long story short, the courts passed a new law, and they can now walk into nightclubs with their daggers unhindered.

3. Pakistani/Indian people, who wear turbans, made a fuss a while back about not being able to wear their turbans on motorcycles, instead, having to take them off and wear helmets because of the law. And, sure enough, they complained, and got to wear their turbans on motorcycles.

So.

People can, have, and will call me bigoted or discriminatory. But fuck them. What kind of shit gives people the right, to come into a fucking country, and start changing laws to suit themselves when they're foreigners? When the country doesn't owe them fucking shit, and in fact, it should be the other way around.

Those three examples I just listed. As a canadian citizen, I could not wear a veil in an airport. I could not bring a knife or a ceremonial dagger into a nightclub. And I could not ride a motorcycle without a helmet. But an immigrant, who was not born into this country, and merely came here, rather than following the laws, rules, and customs of my country, they come in, and fucking change shit up for their purposes. They gain more and more control, and then they really fuck shit up.

And it burns my FUCKING ASS that there are people who support this. Who will immidiately label you as a bigoted minority hater for so much as even slightly hinting, that you're going to "opress" religious freedom.

I'm sorry. But fuck you. I would strangle you with my bare fucking hands or just rip you apart for your stupidity.

Bottom line. Keep your fucking religious dick in your pants. Keep it to yourself, and practice your faith in the private sanctity of your home, or place of worship.

Okay. Here's anothe good one. And this one, especially draws some fucking flak.

Ethnic groups or minorities playing their fucking guilt trip bullshit. And there's two groups I'll talk about.

Canadian Native Americans, and naturally, the black communities in the states. You literally cannot so much as cough in their fucking direction before they're screaming "white man opressin' me again" ect ect. And, in some effort to apologize for shit acts previously done, those two groups get some special bonuses. For instance, when on reserves, Natives pay no taxes whatsoever.

What irks me, is that the apology has long sice lost its merit. And now, rather than being used for a good thing, it's an immidiate fallback, or source of whining. Basically, it's a giant fucking victim complex.

My personal opinion on shit like this, disband it.

What happened in our history fucking happened. It's over and done with now. And people don't seem to realize that. And they also don't seem to want to acknowledge that they're canadian citizens either. Being exempt from taxes and laws because of their guilt trip parade.

Fuck you. Grow up, move on from the past, and accept that you're a fucking canadian citizen now because you were born in this country just like me.

The same goes for the black communites in the states too. They need to man the fuck up, get off their fucking asses and fix their shit, and move the fuck on. It's 2015. Time to wake up.

I'll post one. I'm starting to get fucking sick and tired of the religion bullshit. Not the religions themselves, but the fact that they immidiately cry out "opressed minority!" when they have the gall to move into my fucking country. And I'll give three examples of their fucking bullshit.

1. Quebec right now, is in a legal fight with its Islamic communities because they want their women to wear their veils in public completely. And they have complete impunity at airports already.

2. Sihk men, on a fair number of occassions, carry ceremonial daggers on them. Not long ago, these guys made a fuss that they weren't allowed into nightclubs because of their daggers. You're not allowed to enter a nightclub with weapons of any kind. Long story short, the courts passed a new law, and they can now walk into nightclubs with their daggers unhindered.

3. Pakistani/Indian people, who wear turbans, made a fuss a while back about not being able to wear their turbans on motorcycles, instead, having to take them off and wear helmets because of the law. And, sure enough, they complained, and got to wear their turbans on motorcycles.

So.

People can, have, and will call me bigoted or discriminatory. But fuck them. What kind of shit gives people the right, to come into a fucking country, and start changing laws to suit themselves when they're foreigners? When the country doesn't owe them fucking shit, and in fact, it should be the other way around.

Those three examples I just listed. As a canadian citizen, I could not wear a veil in an airport. I could not bring a knife or a ceremonial dagger into a nightclub. And I could not ride a motorcycle without a helmet. But an immigrant, who was not born into this country, and merely came here, rather than following the laws, rules, and customs of my country, they come in, and fucking change shit up for their purposes. They gain more and more control, and then they really fuck shit up.

And it burns my FUCKING ASS that there are people who support this. Who will immidiately label you as a bigoted minority hater for so much as even slightly hinting, that you're going to "opress" religious freedom.

I'm sorry. But fuck you. I would strangle you with my bare fucking hands or just rip you apart for your stupidity.

Bottom line. Keep your fucking religious dick in your pants. Keep it to yourself, and practice your faith in the private sanctity of your home, or place of worship.

Couldn't agree more. It's rage-inducing. I hate how Muslims are allowed to walk over everyone.

Haha let's just tell people to get over it. Cool

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Hey sandtrap

Helmet laws are un-freedomlike
Bladed weapon carry should never be restricted

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For instance, when on reserves, Natives pay no taxes whatsoever

Probably because reserves are meant to be pseudo-sovereign states.

I'll post one. I'm starting to get fucking sick and tired of the religion bullshit. Not the religions themselves, but the fact that they immidiately cry out "opressed minority!" when they have the gall to move into my fucking country. And I'll give three examples of their fucking bullshit.

1. Quebec right now, is in a legal fight with its Islamic communities because they want their women to wear their veils in public completely. And they have complete impunity at airports already.

2. Sihk men, on a fair number of occassions, carry ceremonial daggers on them. Not long ago, these guys made a fuss that they weren't allowed into nightclubs because of their daggers. You're not allowed to enter a nightclub with weapons of any kind. Long story short, the courts passed a new law, and they can now walk into nightclubs with their daggers unhindered.

3. Pakistani/Indian people, who wear turbans, made a fuss a while back about not being able to wear their turbans on motorcycles, instead, having to take them off and wear helmets because of the law. And, sure enough, they complained, and got to wear their turbans on motorcycles.

So.

People can, have, and will call me bigoted or discriminatory. But fuck them. What kind of shit gives people the right, to come into a fucking country, and start changing laws to suit themselves when they're foreigners? When the country doesn't owe them fucking shit, and in fact, it should be the other way around.

Those three examples I just listed. As a canadian citizen, I could not wear a veil in an airport. I could not bring a knife or a ceremonial dagger into a nightclub. And I could not ride a motorcycle without a helmet. But an immigrant, who was not born into this country, and merely came here, rather than following the laws, rules, and customs of my country, they come in, and fucking change shit up for their purposes. They gain more and more control, and then they really fuck shit up.

And it burns my FUCKING ASS that there are people who support this. Who will immidiately label you as a bigoted minority hater for so much as even slightly hinting, that you're going to "opress" religious freedom.

I'm sorry. But fuck you. I would strangle you with my bare fucking hands or just rip you apart for your stupidity.

Bottom line. Keep your fucking religious dick in your pants. Keep it to yourself, and practice your faith in the private sanctity of your home, or place of worship.

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1. Quebec right now, is in a legal fight with its Islamic communities because they want their women to wear their veils in public completely. And they have complete impunity at airports already.

Well, yeah. Canada's consitution grants religious freedom to every citizen, and some muslims view the niqab as a religious obligation.

Unless it's a security risk (like it is at air ports, where it should be banned IMO), there's no good argument against it.

The conservatives are just using it to ride people's deep-seated racism even though it's ridiculously unconsitutional. Anything to get their polls up.

I mean, yeah, fuck Islam, but you can't really believe they should be forced NOT to wear it. It's not hurting anyone.

2. Sihk men, on a fair number of occassions, carry ceremonial daggers on them. Not long ago, these guys made a fuss that they weren't allowed into nightclubs because of their daggers. You're not allowed to enter a nightclub with weapons of any kind. Long story short, the courts passed a new law, and they can now walk into nightclubs with their daggers unhindered.

Fuck Sikhs, too. Kirpan's should be banned.

3. Pakistani/Indian people, who wear turbans

Only Sikh's wear Turbans, and the case in question involved Sikhs. Just clarifying.

made a fuss a while back about not being able to wear their turbans on motorcycles, instead, having to take them off and wear helmets because of the law. And, sure enough, they complained, and got to wear their turbans on motorcycles.

Um... no? That's just false.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/turban-wearing-sikhs-riding-motorbikes-in-ontario-must-wear-helmets-1.1966854

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com//news/canada/canadian-politics/its-mindboggling-sikh-group-furious-that-kathleen-wynne-wont-exempt-turbans-from-motorcycle-helmet-law

It was a good win for Canada, IMO.

What kind of shit gives people the right, to come into a fucking country, and start changing laws to suit themselves when they're foreigners?

The Canadian consitution, silly.

Religious freedom. These new laws are made into laws because the Canadian government didn't have the hindsight to think of them when we were writing the damn thing.

Again, as long as it isn't a safety concern, the can do whatever the fuck they want. If you wanna wear a towel around your head like a fucking weirdo, go for it.

Keep your fucking religious dick in your pants. Keep it to yourself, and practice your faith in the private sanctity of your home, or place of worship.

In a perfect world, no one is religious, anyways. But we don't live in a perfect world.

People should have the right to do whatever the fuck they want so long as they're not effecting anyone else.


Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on C51?

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It's so refreshing to have another Canadian to discuss politics with.

Canada is much more interesting.

I haven't quite brushed up on the facets of news so I can be rusty in areas.

I don't give a shit about religious freedom. You should, have the right to practice your faith in the sanctity of your home or a place of worship. But not to change the laws that every other citizen of the country has to follow, just because you're in a religion. I'm sorry, but no. Fuck that.

I don't like "religious freedom" because the first thing every religion does, is try to bend all the rules in their favor. To the point that they have an advantage and can do things that citizens of the country do not. That's some grade A special snowflake group bullshit.

And, on the bill. I can't really comment much on that one because all I have is the limited info about it and my own personal stance on things when it comes to stuff like information sharing. We already exist in a world where as soon as you leave any sort of footprint, somebody could access just about anything they want to know about you.

The bill advocates for sharing information, if I remember correctly. But it's got some loopholes that could be abused rather easily.

Personally, I put very little faith in the government. And I don't expect them to do a good job. And I certainly don't expect them to get better anytime soon.

I don't give a shit about religious freedom. You should, have the right to practice your faith in the sanctity of your home or a place of worship. But not to change the laws that every other citizen of the country has to follow, just because you're in a religion.

None of us have to follow a law that the "religious" come up with. Because they don't come up with laws, or even try to. Most of the time, they're trying to exempt themselves from a law we have to follow.

I don't like "religious freedom" because the first thing every religion does, is try to bend all the rules in their favor. To the point that they have an advantage and can do things that citizens of the country do not. That's some grade A special snowflake group bullshit.

I agree that they have a somewhat unfair advantage. But it's still in our constitution that people have the right to practice their religion as they please (given that they're not breaking the law.)

The bill advocates for sharing information, if I remember correctly. But it's got some loopholes that could be abused rather easily.

I'm of the opinion that "if I don't have anything to hide, I don't have anything to fear." The difference being, that C-51 (for our American readers, it's essentially a worse version of the Patriot Act IIRC) allows the government to call any critique of the government "terrorism". If I emailed you my opinion on why Harper is a lying shitlord and how I've converted all my buddies to the same opinion, I could be wrongly jailed.

I know the NDP wants to abolish it and the Liberals want to "heavily modify it" (whatever THAT means), but it's current model is fucking terrible.

Especially since I have very little good things to say about the Harper government, lol.

Personally, I put very little faith in the government. And I don't expect them to do a good job. And I certainly don't expect them to get better anytime soon.

Mhmm. I reckon we'll get a minority government come the election with Trudeau winning the PM position. Which isn't exactly great for Canada, but IMO it's better than Harper getting his third term.

It's not quite the shitshow America has but it's no prize pony, either.

You're skirting around my point about religions trying to exempt themselves from shit. They can't break the law because they fucking change the law for themselves. It's pandering fucking bullshit. And I don't give a fuck if it's in the constitution because I just told you I don't place faith in the government whatsoever.

And, on the issue of elections, I don't know. All the candidates are fucking shit. Harper has one thing up his sleeve that the others don't. He's a businessmen through and through. But he's shit everywhere else. Personally, I think if anybody else gets in other than Harper, it's going to be worse.

Then again, I don't trust politicians either. They're always the same old song and dance pandering bullshit. No matter who gets in, it's going to be fucking shit anyway.

And, if some people might figure I'm bigoted or close minded on the issue, maybe you, Prehistoric, I acknowledge that it's my opinion.

My opinion means nothing, nor will it amount to nothing. I will never be in a position of power to change such things based off my opinions. And I wouldn't ever act negatively on them either.

But, I am fucking tired of seeing all these fucking whiny ass religions spilling their fucking milk over "religious freedom." When your religion can warp the rules that other citizens have to follow, then you can go fuck yourself.

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You're skirting around my point about religions trying to exempt themselves from shit. They can't break the law because they fucking change the law for themselves.

But you're missing my point that sometimes the laws need to be changed. It's not black and white, the issue requires more nuance than that.

Should Sikhs be prevented from carrying their Kirpans in public? Absolutely. That's pandering. This "muh religious freedom" crap is tiresome and it needs to go ASAP. We agree on that.

But the niqab issue? It literally doesn't hurt anyone, and it's actually the Canadians trying to change the law, instead of the other way around like you claim.

And I don't give a fuck if it's in the constitution because I just told you I don't place faith in the government whatsoever.

Constitution =/= Government

C'mon, man. Play ball.

All the candidates are fucking shit. Harper has one thing up his sleeve that the others don't. He's a businessmen through and through. But he's shit everywhere else. Personally, I think if anybody else gets in other than Harper, it's going to be worse.

We can't really do much worse. We've been in 8 recessions under Harper, so his "prowess" as a business man should be taken with a grain of salt.

I really like May, though her party will never get in. This stupid meme that the green party is a joke needs to GTFO.

Then again, I don't trust politicians either. They're always the same old song and dance pandering bullshit. No matter who gets in, it's going to be fucking shit anyway.

Yeah, I didn't realise how true that statement rang until I watched the Democrat debate last night.

I mean, Canada's debates are FAR better but it's still fucking bullshit.

I'm not trying to prove your opinion wrong -- I just want to have a discussion. No one else cares about Canadian issues, lol. I like talking about them.

Just a quick question, when was the last time a sikh randomly pulled out their kirpan and started stabbing everyone in the street?
Infact, when have sikhs ever been problematic in the west?

Don't lump them in with muslims thank you very much.

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Just a quick question, when was the last time a sikh randomly pulled out their kirpan and started stabbing everyone in the street?
Infact, when have sikhs ever been problematic in the west?

Don't lump them in with muslims thank you very much.

A knife is a knife.

Let's say our good semaritan sikh fellow gets into a barfight and ends up using his dagger. Or somebody takes it off him and uses it? It's not a question of when have they ever been trouble.

It's a question of when will the fuckups start happening because of the rule bending.

Just a quick question, when was the last time a sikh randomly pulled out their kirpan and started stabbing everyone in the street?
Infact, when have sikhs ever been problematic in the west?

Literally never. Or very rarely.

It doesn't matter though, because like Sandtrap said, a knife is a knife. It's a national security risk.

I actually have the utmost respect for Sikhs.

Don't lump them in with muslims thank you very much.

They deserve to be lumped in with muslims in this context, though.

Just a quick question, when was the last time a sikh randomly pulled out their kirpan and started stabbing everyone in the street?
Infact, when have sikhs ever been problematic in the west?

Don't lump them in with muslims thank you very much.

A knife is a knife.

Let's say our good semaritan sikh fellow gets into a barfight and ends up using his dagger. Or somebody takes it off him and uses it? It's not a question of when have they ever been trouble.

It's a question of when will the fuckups start happening because of the rule bending.

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muh safety and protective guberment

I know you're joking or whatever, but Sikhs don't carry Kirpans around for safety or protection. They just do it because they have to. It's a religious requirement.