Opinion on Visual Novels?

Pippen · June 04, 2016, 12:09:49 AM

Let me make something clear.
NOT
DATING
SIMULATORS

Actual Visual Novels that put time and care into the story and not copy paste anime boobs and high school.

As far as those VNs go, what is your opinion on them?

Thun · June 04, 2016, 12:10:52 AM

No Boobs

No Buy

True Turquoise · June 04, 2016, 12:11:33 AM

Oh yeah, Peach and I still need to get through that one

Better practice my girl voice

Verbatim · June 04, 2016, 12:12:52 AM

Just one of the many manifestations of autism and degeneracy.

Thun · June 04, 2016, 12:14:24 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2016, 12:12:52 AM

Just one of the many manifestations of autism and degeneracy.

Autism yeah, but degeneracy? He ain't taking about the pornographic ones.

Pippen · June 04, 2016, 12:18:09 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2016, 12:12:52 AM

Just one of the many manifestations of autism and degeneracy.

I'm not talking about the ones that are all about anime girls in high school.

The ones that are actually trying to tell a story with narration, dialogue and visuals.

It's like if a comic book was a program, kinda, not really.

Luciana · June 04, 2016, 12:19:24 AM

If it's actually done right, I absolutely see no problem with it. Voice acting, music, choices, engaging, etc. It's nothing too bad.

However with every form of media, there is a dark side to it.

Ian · June 04, 2016, 12:20:13 AM

Only one I've read so far is F/SN, they're kind of a pain in the ass to install.

Verbatim · June 04, 2016, 12:22:18 AM

Quote from: ❗️Pip❗️ on June 04, 2016, 12:18:09 AM

I'm not talking about the ones that are all about anime girls in high school.

I haven't seen too many that aren't that.

DAS B00T x2 · June 04, 2016, 12:26:33 AM

Why not both? Or option three?
I've been playing the shit out of Kamidori Alchemy Miester because of the dungeon crawling gameplay part of it. The anime titties and loli girls are just a bonus.

Pippen · June 04, 2016, 12:28:46 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2016, 12:22:18 AM

Quote from: ❗️Pip❗️ on June 04, 2016, 12:18:09 AM
I'm not talking about the ones that are all about anime girls in high school.
I haven't seen too many that aren't that.

They are extremely hard to find.

Steins:Gate is a pretty good one. Probably one of the decent "anime" ones.

Verbatim · June 04, 2016, 12:29:47 AM

i tend to avoid shit that adds useless punctuation in the title for generic artsy purposes

Verbatim · June 04, 2016, 12:30:16 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2016, 12:29:47 AM

i tend to avoid shit that adds useless punctuation in the title for generic artsy purposes

this post is a joke

Ian · June 04, 2016, 12:31:31 AM

What do you mean? (even if it is just a joke)

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2016, 12:29:47 AM

i tend to avoid shit that adds useless punctuation in the title for generic artsy purposes

Luciana · June 04, 2016, 12:32:42 AM

Quote from: Ian on June 04, 2016, 12:20:13 AM

Only one I've read so far is F/SN, they're kind of a pain in the ass to install.

Not really. Though I really did enjoy them. First route is boring since it's an info dump, but after that it gets really good.

Verbatim · June 04, 2016, 12:33:08 AM

Quote from: Ian on June 04, 2016, 12:31:31 AM

What do you mean? (even if it is just a joke)

Steins SEMICOLON Gate

like, what is that for

i've already asked fans of it before, and they don't know the answer either
they just tell me to stop complaining about such "minute details"

True Turquoise · June 04, 2016, 12:34:40 AM

FATE ZERO

Ian · June 04, 2016, 12:35:21 AM

I meant VN's in general when it came to installing and playing them, not just F/SN. I read Fate and UBW routes, I have zero interest in HF considering it take's Shirou's character and throws it out the window.

Quote from: Luciana on June 04, 2016, 12:32:42 AM

Not really. Though I really did enjoy them. First route is boring since it's an info dump, but after that it gets really good.

Tyger · June 04, 2016, 12:35:33 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2016, 12:29:47 AM

i tend to avoid shit that adds useless punctuation in the title for generic artsy purposes

this gave me a chuckle and I immediately thought of Horizon: Zero Dawn

Luciana · June 04, 2016, 12:36:05 AM

Quote from: True Turquoise on June 04, 2016, 12:34:40 AM

FATE ZERO

Was an anime first

Kitsune 狐 · June 04, 2016, 12:36:27 AM

Meh. I own one and it's a samurai love story. It was okay I didn't finish it. I haven't "played" any others and I didn't know there were ones that were not romance.

Ian · June 04, 2016, 12:36:34 AM

Jesus, they could've just said it was added in to look cool. That's not the first time a Japanese title has done that before.

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2016, 12:33:08 AM

Steins SEMICOLON Gate

like, what is that for

i've already asked fans of it before, and they don't know the answer either
they just tell me to stop complaining about such "minute details"

True Turquoise · June 04, 2016, 12:36:56 AM

Quote from: Luciana on June 04, 2016, 12:36:05 AM

Quote from: True Turquoise on June 04, 2016, 12:34:40 AM
FATE ZERO
Was an anime first

Talking about the name.

Luciana · June 04, 2016, 12:37:09 AM

Quote from: Ian on June 04, 2016, 12:35:21 AM

I meant VN's in general when it came to installing and playing them, not just F/SN. I read Fate and UBW routes, I have zero interest in HF considering it take's Shirou's character and throws it out the window.

Quote from: Luciana on June 04, 2016, 12:32:42 AM
Not really. Though I really did enjoy them. First route is boring since it's an info dump, but after that it gets really good.

HF is interesting for many a reason. To dump it for that is just silly, as it does play into his character in more ways than one. Plus, it plays like a direct sequel to Fate/Zero, so that's good.

I'd say read it, considering the movies are coming soon. You're missing a lot of good characters, and arguably one of the most intense end games I've read. I honestly hope the movies nail it, because it's going to be hard.

Ian · June 04, 2016, 12:37:22 AM

Light Novel*

Quote from: Luciana on June 04, 2016, 12:36:05 AM

Quote from: True Turquoise on June 04, 2016, 12:34:40 AM
FATE ZERO
Was an anime first

Luciana · June 04, 2016, 12:38:11 AM

Quote from: Ian on June 04, 2016, 12:37:22 AM

Light Novel*

Quote from: Luciana on June 04, 2016, 12:36:05 AM
Quote from: True Turquoise on June 04, 2016, 12:34:40 AM
FATE ZERO
Was an anime first

Oh right, those things exist

Azure · June 04, 2016, 12:39:25 AM

Heavens Feel, oh boy, I can't wait

Luciana · June 04, 2016, 12:39:52 AM

You forget Ilya's route is thrown in there too. It always bothered me that UBW just completely ignored a lot of what Zero did.

I get the VN was first so it makes sense, but in terms of the anime entry, they hint at it a little in UBW (what with the grail in the opening being the shape of the one from HF), along with other things. But they don't explore it, Kiritsugu enough as well, nor Kerei.

Heavens Feel explores all of that, plus has True Assassin.

Ian · June 04, 2016, 12:41:05 AM

I mostly enjoyed F/SN because of the characters, the story was still good but it was the cast and their behaviors that really kept me in. Taking the main hero and turning him into something completely different is fucking stupid. It may have excellent world building compared to the other two routes but you know there's a serious problem when one of the bad ends (Mind of Steel) is better/more legitimate than either of the two "proper" endings. Because at least with MoS Shirou acts like fucking Shirou.

Quote from: Luciana on June 04, 2016, 12:37:09 AM

HF is interesting for many a reason. To dump it for that is just silly, as it does play into his character in more ways than one. Plus, it plays like a direct sequel to Fate/Zero, so that's good.

Luciana · June 04, 2016, 12:42:27 AM

Quote from: Ian on June 04, 2016, 12:41:05 AM

I mostly enjoyed F/SN because of the characters, the story was still good but it was the cast and their behaviors that really kept me in. Taking the main hero and turning him into something completely different is fucking stupid. It may have excellent world building compared to the other two routes but you know there's a serious problem when one of the bad ends (Mind of Steel) is better/more legitimate than either of the two "proper" endings. Because at least with MoS Shirou acts like fucking Shirou.

Quote from: Luciana on June 04, 2016, 12:37:09 AM
HF is interesting for many a reason. To dump it for that is just silly, as it does play into his character in more ways than one. Plus, it plays like a direct sequel to Fate/Zero, so that's good.

The entire point of that route is to ask him if he would give up everything to save the one person he loves.

It's not so black and white as you're making it. In a way, it's doing exactly what Kiritsugu did at the end, only before he became a little too dark. It's a good read. You shouldn't shut it out simply because of that reason alone. Shirou spouting his super hero stuff got annoying after a while anyway.

Rin points out he's pretty much broken in UBW. Picture HF as the way of fixing him.